Is this true with all/any 8thgen civic models...

Royce · 08-25-2007, 02:07 AM

People has said that the car's computer like to adjust itself according to your drive style. The more aggressive that you drive normaly, the faster it responds. If you don't drive aggressively all the time and just wanted to step on it all of the sudden, I think it hesitate for a bit. This is just what I heard, I have no facts to back it up.

^--- was just going through a thread and came across this... curious as to wether its fact/fiction?

EvilSardine · 08-26-2007, 12:06 PM

I would also like to know the answer to this for sure.

HondaFREAK · 08-26-2007, 01:36 PM

partly both, the R18 Auto ECU tends to "learn" your driving style. I know when I first started driving the R18 auto it was a bit sluggish, and got GREAT gas mileage. But when you drive spirited it logs it and "learns" from it because it's supposedly a smart computer, after about a month of spirit driving the MPG went down and the car tended to downshift more when I need to speed up...and not even that hard on the accel. Anyway, that's what I noticed on the R18 AT. However, my new R18 MT doesn't seem to have that issue since the computer isn't figuring out what gear you need. However, we'll see how it goes down the road, but I think it's mainly the R18 AT that learns your style.

TJ213 · 08-26-2007, 02:42 PM

People always talk about these learning ECUs on modern cars, however, from what I've heard the only noticible thing that changes is the shift points.

Although I've also heard about the ECU "learning" its way out of a mod, my guess is it compensates for the extra air of a CAI or something with more fuel, making the car run rich?

jasongg06 · 08-26-2007, 05:35 PM

i don't seem to notice

is there any easy way to tell???

HondaFREAK · 08-26-2007, 09:50 PM

if you have the R18 AT I noticed the shift points, how often i-vtec would kick in, and the real hard shifts under heavy accel. Worst of all my MPG went from 33 local when I first got the car to 28 local...it was a disappointing to me to be honest, traded it for a R18 MT, haven't really had any problems with it.

kenchan · 08-26-2007, 11:02 PM

almost all cars now a days are like that.... they adapt to driver input
for best fuel economy and emissions.

some people like to reset their ECU on occasion to get the max
out of their mods. the computer will not only adapt to driver input,
but it will also adapt to its working environment...making it almost
worthless for lightly modding NA cars unless you reset the ECU often.

junkcheung1 · 08-27-2007, 02:23 PM

Check this out...maybe and maybe not.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302047

Duce2k · 08-27-2007, 03:53 PM

My wife swears after I drive her V6 Tribute it seems faster, because of my agressive driving the shifts are more abrupt, so when she drives it at her more leisurely pace it takes awhile to "re-learn" her style of driving

RiceBowL54 · 08-27-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaFREAK

if you have the R18 AT I noticed the shift points, how often i-vtec would kick in, and the real hard shifts under heavy accel. =

for R18s... v-tec is always on at rpms lower that 3000 rpm (or 3500?) and turns off after that.

So you prolly felt your v-tec kick off...

CS Si · 08-27-2007, 05:31 PM

I thought I've noticed this in my 07 Si. When I drive it hard it becomes more responsive. But if I've been easy on it for a while, and then I get on it, it feels sluggish for the first few runs.
I sell cars at an Acura dealership, and we have been told that our vehicles, mostly we speak about it in the TL, do adapt and learn the way you drive. Don't know for sure but i do hear of this a lot.

8yourv8 · 08-27-2007, 06:08 PM

06CivEXJon · 08-28-2007, 02:20 PM

Ive seen several SI's at Pikes Peak acura too what are they trading them in for? since the type-s is gone. I checked out the 07 MDX the otherday and it was opened and i couldnt believe the gap i saw in the dash by the glovebox and the MDX retailed for $40,000. The RDX isnt bad though,i jsut wish Honda and Toyota fix their quality issues.

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Royce Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 549 '06 Civic SI iTrader: 1 / 100%	Is this true with all/any 8thgen civic models... People has said that the car's computer like to adjust itself according to your drive style. The more aggressive that you drive normaly, the faster it responds. If you don't drive aggressively all the time and just wanted to step on it all of the sudden, I think it hesitate for a bit. This is just what I heard, I have no facts to back it up. ^--- was just going through a thread and came across this... curious as to wether its fact/fiction?

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