Speed... choices?

dryerlint88 · 07-20-2007, 11:54 PM

I've been so back and forth on this.... I want speed. It wont be immediate, so I've got time to weigh the options.

Choices-

SI swap in my EX (in a few years, right now I definitely need gas mileage for school. the only hold up is my power needs combined with FWD. I want about 400-450whp and I want it to hook up and be really streetable)

Attempt an S2000 swap in my EX (definitely something I would enjoy if it worked, but I am not too fond of cutting this car)

Buy an S2000 (not really an option, I need more room than an S2000 has to offer)

Trade for a domestic for that price range, or a 240sx/300zx/STi/EVO/etc

NARFALICIOUS · 07-21-2007, 12:15 AM

swap in an Si? wouldn't it be more practical to trade up for an Si and mod that?

dryerlint88 · 07-21-2007, 12:17 AM

Well, If it were an immediate plan, yes. But since I am not going to do this until I get out of school, it's more rewarding to me to just do a swap. My car by then will be paid off, and no longer under warranty.

Kurt · 07-21-2007, 12:27 AM

k20 swap + turbo

Capt Canuck · 07-21-2007, 01:00 AM

Why do you want 400+ from those cars in the first place?
Looking for a competition car?

anavrin351 · 07-21-2007, 01:03 AM

these motors are gonna be the same price for a long time to come. Theres motors outta some 98ish cars that are still 3 grand and up

The Shishpanik · 07-21-2007, 01:16 AM

Turbo your r18 after a while.... you'll still most likely get the same, if not better gas miileage (if you stay off boost), and youll have a good amount of power.

megahurts · 07-21-2007, 01:27 AM

why don't you just get track-only miata or something. or even an older civic or CRX swapped with a K20. have you considered having a track-only car AND a daily driver?

***Izzy*** · 07-21-2007, 01:43 AM

Wouldn't 450 bhp for a track car be signing a death warrant if you have FWD? Unless it's a drag car....

...anyway, I agree with megahurts. Buy a Miata or RX-7 or (personal favorite) Subaru 2.5 RS Coupe and tart that up for some HP to take to the track?

Wakeboarder11 · 07-21-2007, 02:20 AM

if your looking for that kind of wheel power dont get an si or do some sort of honda engine swap, just buy a whole new car.

mO 64 StAnG 06 · 07-21-2007, 02:58 AM

Get a RWD for that kind of power.

Stay away from honda or most foreign car's and get you something with some balls (Torque) like... Here comes the flames... A Mustang.

Cheap, HUGE aftermarket support, Big displacement= more gains with basic bolt-ons.

**NitrousG35** · 07-21-2007, 10:06 AM

Sorry to chime in, but because of my age, I have to. This reminds me of guys in the 60's who wrote to Hot Rod magazine asking about swapping in a Chrysler Hemi into an MG or a 428 Cobra Jet into a Pinto. From the tone of the OP, it sounds much the same.

Realistically, you can't make a race horse out of an old nag. I would keep your present car and do some sound N/A mods to it. While it won't be 400 hp, you will enjoy the added performance plus the fuel economy you need. Get your education in first, then go for your toys. In 5 years, your heart will be set on another car and the Honda will be a fading memory. It makes much more sense to buy a car with an already good performance platform rather than build an entire car from the ground up.

BTW, in 1970, I bought a brand new 350 Camaro. Not what I wanted, but all that I could afford. Being a horsepower junkie, I became delusional and had these grand plans to swap in a 454 motor, change the trans from an automatic to a 4 speed and change other parts as well. It would have been much simpler to have bought a Z/28 or an SS 396 Camaro as a starting platform. Later, I got
smart and bought a 427 Corvette. It was the perfect platform to mod.

TJ213 · 07-21-2007, 12:11 PM

If you want to stay import and get that type of power you really probably need to go with a subie or an evo

AWD should be pretty good at getting the power down, and those cars are capable of 400hp or more, plus you can use a de-tuned setup for when you don't want the power.

Why do you want all this power? If it is for a track wait until you can afford a second car, using your daily driver on the track is a horrible idea

jasongg06 · 07-21-2007, 02:00 PM

i'd just trade ur ex

hondas hold their values nicely, when your car is paid off you can still use it as a down pmt, or trade it for another car

dryerlint88 · 07-22-2007, 12:59 AM

Alright... so I'll keep my Civic as my DD and buy a mustang or something in a few years.

I still want it to be very peppy! I wanna confuse some SI's as I come close/beat them. Can this be done NA? or anywhere close? Is anyone even considering cam/heads/etc for the R18?

Also... If I were looking into exhaust/intake what would be suggested for a low-key sound like stock? I want my car to be as sleeper as possible!

mO 64 StAnG 06 · 07-22-2007, 04:03 AM

NO2 is probably your best bet if you want to keep up with an Si.

Any intake or exhaust is going to alter the sound characteristics. None will sound stock. Best, although debated (by 3 people), is the Injen CAI. Which will alter the sound of the car.

Try adding pullies to the Civic. Gives it a nice boost in performance without any sound changes whatsoever.

But as far as that, its all we have available till aftermarket expands for us R18'ers.

Im drunk and sleepy... Im out.

e60.deluxe · 07-22-2007, 04:24 AM

you cant swap an S2000 motor into an EX or an Si or any civic for that matter.

if your looking for speed and want a project, try making a monster miata.
amazing.

what i would really like to do is swap a 2ZZ into an MR2. 180hp, 2100lbs.

Jardiniboy · 07-22-2007, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

you cant swap an S2000 motor into an EX or an Si or any civic for that matter.

if your looking for speed and want a project, try making a monster miata.
amazing.

what i would really like to do is swap a 2ZZ into an MR2. 180hp, 2100lbs.

Actually you can put an SI motor in a EX. It just cost a lot of money. More money than if he just traded the ex and paid the difference for an SI.

Seriously a 2ZZ in a MR2 I rather see a k-series in a MR2.

trickyazn · 07-22-2007, 06:04 AM

op really has serious issues if he wants 400bhp from whats originally a ex.

honestly.. wtf?! get an Si or forget about it..

and a s2000 motor in a ex? yeah that sounds realistic. sorry questions and giving options like this makes our forum look bad.

***DeePStr33tzOfTn*** · 07-22-2007, 06:16 AM

on cardomain i saw like a 92 hatch w/ a s2k f20c( i think thats the motor) swap, custom tranny, that bitch was rwd. it was bad ass lookin

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dryerlint88 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 103 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Speed... choices? I've been so back and forth on this.... I want speed. It wont be immediate, so I've got time to weigh the options. Choices- SI swap in my EX (in a few years, right now I definitely need gas mileage for school. the only hold up is my power needs combined with FWD. I want about 400-450whp and I want it to hook up and be really streetable) Attempt an S2000 swap in my EX (definitely something I would enjoy if it worked, but I am not too fond of cutting this car) Buy an S2000 (not really an option, I need more room than an S2000 has to offer) Trade for a domestic for that price range, or a 240sx/300zx/STi/EVO/etc

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NARFALICIOUS Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Location: Location Posts: 255 iTrader: 0 / 0%	swap in an Si? wouldn't it be more practical to trade up for an Si and mod that?

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dryerlint88 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 103 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Well, If it were an immediate plan, yes. But since I am not going to do this until I get out of school, it's more rewarding to me to just do a swap. My car by then will be paid off, and no longer under warranty.

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Kurt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 22 Posts: 4,007 iTrader: 2 / 100%	k20 swap + turbo

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anavrin351 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 24 Posts: 2,026 Tyler iTrader: 3 / 100%	these motors are gonna be the same price for a long time to come. Theres motors outta some 98ish cars that are still 3 grand and up

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The Shishpanik Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: College park, MD Posts: 2,045 Fear the Turtle! iTrader: 1 / 100%	Turbo your r18 after a while.... you'll still most likely get the same, if not better gas miileage (if you stay off boost), and youll have a good amount of power.

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megahurts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,327 iTrader: 0 / 0%	why don't you just get track-only miata or something. or even an older civic or CRX swapped with a K20. have you considered having a track-only car AND a daily driver?

07-21-2007, 01:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
*Izzy* Supreme Pizza! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Azusa, CA Age: 25 Posts: 11,936 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Wouldn't 450 bhp for a track car be signing a death warrant if you have FWD? Unless it's a drag car.... ...anyway, I agree with megahurts. Buy a Miata or RX-7 or (personal favorite) Subaru 2.5 RS Coupe and tart that up for some HP to take to the track?

07-21-2007, 02:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
Wakeboarder11 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Age: 19 Posts: 1,015 Tyler iTrader: 4 / 100%	if your looking for that kind of wheel power dont get an si or do some sort of honda engine swap, just buy a whole new car.

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mO 64 StAnG 06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wylie, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 3,001 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Get a RWD for that kind of power. Stay away from honda or most foreign car's and get you something with some balls (Torque) like... Here comes the flames... A Mustang. Cheap, HUGE aftermarket support, Big displacement= more gains with basic bolt-ons.

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NitrousG35 Mr. Cowl Induction Join Date: May 2007 Location: To Infiniti and beyond... Posts: 10,276 Wild VTEC'n Bill iTrader: 3 / 100%	Sorry to chime in, but because of my age, I have to. This reminds me of guys in the 60's who wrote to Hot Rod magazine asking about swapping in a Chrysler Hemi into an MG or a 428 Cobra Jet into a Pinto. From the tone of the OP, it sounds much the same. Realistically, you can't make a race horse out of an old nag. I would keep your present car and do some sound N/A mods to it. While it won't be 400 hp, you will enjoy the added performance plus the fuel economy you need. Get your education in first, then go for your toys. In 5 years, your heart will be set on another car and the Honda will be a fading memory. It makes much more sense to buy a car with an already good performance platform rather than build an entire car from the ground up. BTW, in 1970, I bought a brand new 350 Camaro. Not what I wanted, but all that I could afford. Being a horsepower junkie, I became delusional and had these grand plans to swap in a 454 motor, change the trans from an automatic to a 4 speed and change other parts as well. It would have been much simpler to have bought a Z/28 or an SS 396 Camaro as a starting platform. Later, I got smart and bought a 427 Corvette. It was the perfect platform to mod.

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TJ213 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 18 Posts: 3,051 iTrader: 0 / 0%	If you want to stay import and get that type of power you really probably need to go with a subie or an evo AWD should be pretty good at getting the power down, and those cars are capable of 400hp or more, plus you can use a de-tuned setup for when you don't want the power. Why do you want all this power? If it is for a track wait until you can afford a second car, using your daily driver on the track is a horrible idea

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jasongg06 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 626 So Cal Posts: 1,262 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i'd just trade ur ex hondas hold their values nicely, when your car is paid off you can still use it as a down pmt, or trade it for another car

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dryerlint88 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 103 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Alright... so I'll keep my Civic as my DD and buy a mustang or something in a few years. I still want it to be very peppy! I wanna confuse some SI's as I come close/beat them. Can this be done NA? or anywhere close? Is anyone even considering cam/heads/etc for the R18? Also... If I were looking into exhaust/intake what would be suggested for a low-key sound like stock? I want my car to be as sleeper as possible!

07-22-2007, 04:03 AM	#16 (permalink)
mO 64 StAnG 06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wylie, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 3,001 iTrader: 0 / 0%	NO2 is probably your best bet if you want to keep up with an Si. Any intake or exhaust is going to alter the sound characteristics. None will sound stock. Best, although debated (by 3 people), is the Injen CAI. Which will alter the sound of the car. Try adding pullies to the Civic. Gives it a nice boost in performance without any sound changes whatsoever. But as far as that, its all we have available till aftermarket expands for us R18'ers. Im drunk and sleepy... Im out.

07-22-2007, 04:24 AM	#17 (permalink)
e60.deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lake Forest, CA Age: 22 Posts: 4,898 iTrader: 3 / 100%	you cant swap an S2000 motor into an EX or an Si or any civic for that matter. if your looking for speed and want a project, try making a monster miata. amazing. what i would really like to do is swap a 2ZZ into an MR2. 180hp, 2100lbs.

07-22-2007, 06:04 AM	#19 (permalink)
trickyazn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: OC, Cali Posts: 4,881 iTrader: 15 / 100%	op really has serious issues if he wants 400bhp from whats originally a ex. honestly.. wtf?! get an Si or forget about it.. and a s2000 motor in a ex? yeah that sounds realistic. sorry questions and giving options like this makes our forum look bad.