2008 Subaru Wrx=disapointment? - Page 4

strCIVIC · 07-15-2007, 08:34 PM

IS350....so identical...i'll take the is350 for sure

friend's wrx

Lynnracer23 · 07-17-2007, 07:58 PM

give me an sti everyday plizzzz

***Freq18hz*** · 07-17-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 4DoorWhore

I like the new WRX/Sti design alot better than the current design. Evo X IMO is ugly, Evo9 FTW!!!!

well put!

-Freq

**firmhonda** · 07-18-2007, 10:36 AM

IDK what to think about the new sti's. I mean, you see them in pictures and they look so ugly that you want to throw up.. but then you see the vid of the sti being tested at nurburgring(sp) and it actually looks nice. I think it's just going to be one of those things.. like that girl that you dated that looked good in person but when you show your buddies pics of her they all just laugh at you.

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BTW Subaru OWNS/Pwns Hondas any day. You also went from a high HP and High tourque monster to a low HP and no tourque pos SI.

Not true. AJP boosted Si > modded STi in every straight other than from a dig.

harobmx87 · 06-07-2008, 03:29 AM

the first time i saw the new WRX, i thought it was a Mazda =/

trickyazn · 06-07-2008, 06:10 AM

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Wing on FWD=useless..

.. wrong.

ImBiginKorea · 06-07-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

Wing on FWD=useless..

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.. wrong.

^^^^ so true. I love how people just regurgitate random preconceptions on aerodynamics. Wing on FWD car = needed in certain applications.

--Korea

06CivEXJon · 06-08-2008, 07:52 PM

Way to revive a thread from a long ass time ago...

Snake-eyes · 06-08-2008, 08:45 PM

yawn dead thread

***Fincher23*** · 06-09-2008, 10:10 AM

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Wing on FWD=useless..

i realize this is a zombie thread but eh.. whatever...

anyway.. tell that to the guy driving a civic that ended up stuck in a tree 20 feet above ground on the side of the interstate a few years ago where i live.. i dunno how fast he was going but apparently it was fast enough to where he didn't have enough down force and up, up and away he went!!

obviously his car was heavily modded and he gutted the thing.. but the fact remains that FWD cars can be made to go fast enough where wings are useful

habitat · 06-09-2008, 01:08 PM

So no one cares that the GE/GH WRX has no rear LSD? All you care about is styling? Honestly, I thought all Subarus were ugly as sin (minus the GC)... it is the performance that they pack in these cars that I fell in love with. Now that they are going "mainstream" and removing (on the WRX at least) important things like a REAR LSD, I'm no longer a Subaru fan. Subarus have always been understeering monsters, now without an LSD they will rival FWD cars.

06CivEXJon · 06-09-2008, 02:01 PM

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habitat · 06-09-2008, 02:39 PM

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Man I've seen so many new WRX's around and i just don't get why people would buy them over the 07 and below model years? the new WRX is a huge disappointment,the interior looks like crap,looks like it came straight out of a corolla which i bet the new WRX is based off of due to Toyota ownership. I'd rather buy an 04-07 year GD WRX the second best WRX design and the first best Impreza design is the GC8 style. I bet when this new rumored Subaru coupe comes out it will just be a hatchback 2 door WRX/Impreza and it will fail just like the Saturn Astra. Imagine that,Subaru killed the Impreza WRX STI Sedan and made a fugly ass hatchback instead. Subaru is lost,confused and about to die. Let's hope the next legacy doesn't get camryized. The next Legacy better look good.

The new Impreza chassis is based off a shortened Subaru Legacy platform. Toyomoco owns only 8.4% of Fuji Heavy Ind. (makers of Subaru). I suggest you do a little research on Subaru's boxer powertrain, to adapt a Corolla platform to accommodate Subaru powertrain would not be a "drop in" procedure. It is nearly ridiculous to speculate such a move.

You seem to be one of the people I'm referring to, worrying about aesthetics over all else... you mention the "design" of the GC8 as being it's saving grace. And again in reference to your comment that the STI is killed and turn into a "fugly" hatchback. (Although it has proved to be a step in the right direction in the WRC rally of Acropolis)

I don't get where you're going with the Saturn Astra statement, the Opel/Saturn/Vauxhall/Holden Astra and Chevy Vectra have sold quite well in the world market...

I just don't get it, you have so much to say about Subaru but so little facts.

***Fincher23*** · 06-09-2008, 03:05 PM

yea.. boxer engines are wide. there would be fitment issues if they tried to just drop it into a corolla

06CivEXJon · 06-10-2008, 05:27 PM

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***Firestrife*** · 06-10-2008, 05:30 PM

Subaru went for the hatchback because of the advantages hatches have in rally racing, They really didnt consider the dislike by the fanbase.

06CivEXJon · 06-10-2008, 05:34 PM

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Subaru went for the hatchback because of the advantages hatches have in rally racing, They really didnt consider the dislike by the fanbase.

I really do not buy that. They killed the Sedan STI and now they suposedly have a 3 door coming soon. Hatchbacks suck nuts compared to wagons. If Subaru was smart they'd redesign the WRX and scrap the STI hatch and replace it with a Sedan and Wagon or a Sedan or Coupe. Obviously Subaru doesn't give a shit about the tuners as they already abandoned them. I mean look at the astra hatchback the door is so small you really cant put anything in there compared to wagons with taller wider openings.

***Fincher23*** · 06-10-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

I really do not buy that. They killed the Sedan STI and now they suposedly have a 3 door coming soon. Hatchbacks suck nuts compared to wagons. If Subaru was smart they'd redesign the WRX and scrap the STI hatch and replace it with a Sedan and Wagon or a Sedan or Coupe. Obviously Subaru doesn't give a shit about the tuners as they already abandoned them. I mean look at the astra hatchback the door is so small you really cant put anything in there compared to wagons with taller wider openings.

tuners are never really the main priority to begin with

habitat · 06-10-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

Not everyone likes hatchbacks,just because they're popular in Europe doesn't mean they are here. Alot of Americans hate hatchbacks and would rather prefer wagons.Subaru just pulled a stupid move,the older imprezas were mean,beastly the new one is plain jane vanilla looking. You say don't care about the way it looks? you have care about the way it looks,because the way it looks goes with the way it performs. If it looks like a corolla which the new WRX looks like than it probably drives like one with suspension not tuned like the old model. The new WRX sedan has a tiny trunk compared to the old one. Atleast Mitsubishi still has the EVO as a Sedan and atleast Mitsubishi cares and listens to their enthusiasts. Subaru obviously doesn't care about their tuner base. Subaru has abonded their tuners. I checked nasioc and a huge majority of older gen owners of imprezas hate the new WRX i don't blame them. The new WRX is a pos and i bet Subaru will redesign it soon,since Subaru has a 2 year model cycle refresh. The new WRX is fugly inside and out and is probably less enthusiastic than the older outgoing model. Plus Subaru still insists on using 4 speed autos it's amazing! lol

Looks have absolutely nothing to do with performance...

I am a member of Nasioc, EVERYTIMEsubaru put out a new impreza, it was followed by an uproar. Then after the introduction, people start loving the cars again.

Again, I implore you to do a bit of research on Subaru's powertrain. It is currently the only automobile producer to employ a front engine boxer powertrain. Therefore it is easy to understand that a 5 speed auto would have to be developed in house, where as a 5 speed auto for a transverse inline 4 is nearly mainstream and widely available.

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Subaru went for the hatchback because of the advantages hatches have in rally racing, They really didnt consider the dislike by the fanbase.

Exactly my point, and it has payed off so far.

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Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

I really do not buy that. They killed the Sedan STI and now they suposedly have a 3 door coming soon. Hatchbacks suck nuts compared to wagons. If Subaru was smart they'd redesign the WRX and scrap the STI hatch and replace it with a Sedan and Wagon or a Sedan or Coupe. Obviously Subaru doesn't give a shit about the tuners as they already abandoned them. I mean look at the astra hatchback the door is so small you really cant put anything in there compared to wagons with taller wider openings.

You don't buy that? You must not follow rally, you know... where Subaru gets it's ENTIRE enthusiast base? If you watch a single interview w/ petter solberg, you would know how displeased he is with the sedan configuration.

Again... so many opinions from you, so little facts.

***Izzy*** · 06-10-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

I really do not buy that. They killed the Sedan STI and now they suposedly have a 3 door coming soon. Hatchbacks suck nuts compared to wagons. If Subaru was smart they'd redesign the WRX and scrap the STI hatch and replace it with a Sedan and Wagon or a Sedan or Coupe. Obviously Subaru doesn't give a shit about the tuners as they already abandoned them. I mean look at the astra hatchback the door is so small you really cant put anything in there compared to wagons with taller wider openings.

This just means YOU don't like the car. After seeing it in person, I actually MUCH prefer this to the EVO X.

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habitat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NorCal Age: 23 Posts: 2,438 iTrader: 1 / 100%	So no one cares that the GE/GH WRX has no rear LSD? All you care about is styling? Honestly, I thought all Subarus were ugly as sin (minus the GC)... it is the performance that they pack in these cars that I fell in love with. Now that they are going "mainstream" and removing (on the WRX at least) important things like a REAR LSD, I'm no longer a Subaru fan. Subarus have always been understeering monsters, now without an LSD they will rival FWD cars.

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*Fincher23* kaw-kaw kaw-kaw!! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Red Stick, LA Age: 22 Posts: 1,226 Jeremy iTrader: 0 / 0%	yea.. boxer engines are wide. there would be fitment issues if they tried to just drop it into a corolla