Stick Shift Question

NeinLives · 05-29-2007, 10:03 PM

What's up, guys?

I just bought a new car (2007 Honda Civic Si - pictures coming soon), and it has a manual transmission. I'm still learning to drive manual, so I stall-out the engine fairly often and do other annoying stuff. One of those things is causing the car to buck when I upshift and downshift. I understand that this will ultimately damage the vehicle. It has about 1,100 miles. Is there any chance I've done substantial damage to the car up till now?

dextor · 05-29-2007, 10:10 PM

Probably excessive wear (compared to normal use) on the gearbox and transmission. Don't worry too much, they can be replaced, and it's not like there's anything you can do about it

inyong1988 · 05-29-2007, 10:11 PM

howd you get 1100 miles already if you dunno how to drive manual?

NeinLives · 05-29-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by inyong1988

howd you get 1100 miles already if you dunno how to drive manual?

I never said that I don't know how to drive manual; I said that I'm still learning. The vehicle had 153 miles on it at the time of purchase. The dealership had to order it from another town.

kevzSi · 05-29-2007, 10:15 PM

you should have learned before you got it...unless youre ok with replacing your clutch sooner than usual

kelmar · 05-29-2007, 10:34 PM

It's a car, he/she has to learn and practice somehow!!

To the original poster: You probably are causing some kind of damage, but nothing that can't be repaired.

Have fun and enjoy the car!!

Drew07LX04STI · 05-29-2007, 10:55 PM

After 1000 miles you shouldnt be having much trouble besides an ocassional stalling or hill issues!! Your car is not damaged and you will be fine in due time...

Skylinegtr06 · 05-29-2007, 10:59 PM

I learned on my Si, I probably wore my clutch more than anything

Dj Hunny · 05-30-2007, 12:29 PM

yeh, it's not going to be anything dramatic, you wil have to replace your clutch sooner, but cars are basically made to learn on...what else can you do..

TJ213 · 05-30-2007, 06:27 PM

the clutch may wear faster, but clutches are wear parts anyways, as long as you don't mis shift and over rev

galaxygrey · 05-31-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NeinLives

What's up, guys?

I just bought a new car (2007 Honda Civic Si - pictures coming soon), and it has a manual transmission. I'm still learning to drive manual, so I stall-out the engine fairly often and do other annoying stuff. One of those things is causing the car to buck when I upshift and downshift. I understand that this will ultimately damage the vehicle. It has about 1,100 miles. Is there any chance I've done substantial damage to the car up till now?

Your letting the clutch out to earliy, To avoid stalling. just give it little more gas, and then slowly let out the cluch. don't wait until the revs are too high before changing. just dip the clutch and slowly release.

it seams to me that you don't understand where the bitting point is. Understanding THIS will help you not stall.

To find the bitting point. Increased the throttle slowly, while letting out the clutch slowly at the same time, will help you find the bitting point. you understand what I mean when you do it. you will feel it.

A Jerking engine on down shifting Is changing down to suddenly. Until you can handle the gears better, just dip clutch, select the right gear for the apropate speed, not so the rev shoot throw the rood.

If the revs do simple, just dip the clutch and go for a higher gear.

If you are coming to a complete stop just dip the clutch and come to a stop then selcting first gear.

Using this method, you may ride the clutch a little more, but it is only minor, nothing to worry about, hey each week you drive you get better and better.

TJ213 · 05-31-2007, 01:09 AM

just keep practicing, you'll be rev matching and heel-toe shifting before you know it

btw, this car does seem to have a tough clutch to learn on, I stalled this car out more than the car I learned on

kevzSi · 05-31-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ213

just keep practicing, you'll be rev matching and heel-toe shifting before you know it

btw, this car does seem to have a tough clutch to learn on, I stalled this car out more than the car I learned on

from my experience this car has one of the easiest clutches to learn on.

Jardiniboy · 05-31-2007, 02:45 AM

Just keep practicing like at a park. Work on your smoothness and try different methods and see which one you like.

Metalhead852 · 06-04-2007, 09:00 AM

I first learned how to drive a stick on a 80's model ford escort and then a 96 F-150. I gotta say I'm glad I learned early in high school before buying my first new car and having to worry about what I might do to it. So I'm gonna buy my first kid a beater car to learn on... probably the one I have now by then. :P

illusionstwice · 06-04-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NeinLives

What's up, guys?

I just bought a new car (2007 Honda Civic Si - pictures coming soon), and it has a manual transmission.

DUH!!!

Anyway, just practice is all u can do. Especially on hills.

MarinoKouch · 07-29-2007, 06:39 PM

I have heard somewhere that releasing the clutch out TOO slowly is bad. Is that true? I already know how to drive a manual transmission, but I sometimes feel that I do release the clutch slow, if not too slow! What does "TOO SLOW" really mean?

Also, how much would it cost to repair the clutch?

kelmar · 07-29-2007, 06:59 PM

If you let it out TOO slow, it's called slipping the clutch. Over time, it will lead to premature clutch death. It typically won't happen overnight. If you do it at 8k rpms then you'll probably kill the clutch pretty darn quick.

What situations are you referring to when you say you release the clutch slow?

Ideally, the only time you would have to release it "slow" is starting in 1st. Even then, it shouldn't be THAT slow.

MarinoKouch · 07-29-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmar

If you let it out TOO slow, it's called slipping the clutch. Over time, it will lead to premature clutch death. It typically won't happen overnight. If you do it at 8k rpms then you'll probably kill the clutch pretty darn quick.

What situations are you referring to when you say you release the clutch slow?

Ideally, the only time you would have to release it "slow" is starting in 1st. Even then, it shouldn't be THAT slow.

How about in normal driving? When I am driving, I always want a smooth transition; so, with that in mind, I have to release the clutch slowly for the car not to jerk.

kelmar · 07-29-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKouch

How about in normal driving? When I am driving, I always want a smooth transition; so, with that in mind, I have to release the clutch slowly for the car not to jerk.

Upshifting or downshifting?

Upshifting shouldn't be doing this, so I'm assuming its downshifting.

Have you ever used a technique called revmatching?

05-29-2007, 10:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
NeinLives Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Stick Shift Question What's up, guys? I just bought a new car (2007 Honda Civic Si - pictures coming soon), and it has a manual transmission. I'm still learning to drive manual, so I stall-out the engine fairly often and do other annoying stuff. One of those things is causing the car to buck when I upshift and downshift. I understand that this will ultimately damage the vehicle. It has about 1,100 miles. Is there any chance I've done substantial damage to the car up till now?

07-29-2007, 06:39 PM	#17 (permalink)
MarinoKouch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 47 Marino Kouch iTrader: 0 / 0%	clutch release I have heard somewhere that releasing the clutch out TOO slowly is bad. Is that true? I already know how to drive a manual transmission, but I sometimes feel that I do release the clutch slow, if not too slow! What does "TOO SLOW" really mean? Also, how much would it cost to repair the clutch?

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dextor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 437 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Probably excessive wear (compared to normal use) on the gearbox and transmission. Don't worry too much, they can be replaced, and it's not like there's anything you can do about it

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inyong1988 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: VA Posts: 17,963 BIPPU iTrader: 41 / 98%	howd you get 1100 miles already if you dunno how to drive manual?

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kevzSi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cali Age: 20 Posts: 862 iTrader: 1 / 100%	you should have learned before you got it...unless youre ok with replacing your clutch sooner than usual

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kelmar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,184 iTrader: 1 / 100%	It's a car, he/she has to learn and practice somehow!! To the original poster: You probably are causing some kind of damage, but nothing that can't be repaired. Have fun and enjoy the car!!

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Drew07LX04STI Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: near Boston Age: 26 Posts: 292 Andrew iTrader: 0 / 0%	After 1000 miles you shouldnt be having much trouble besides an ocassional stalling or hill issues!! Your car is not damaged and you will be fine in due time...

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Skylinegtr06 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chula Vista SD Age: 18 Posts: 5,745 edwyn(male) iTrader: 1 / 100%	I learned on my Si, I probably wore my clutch more than anything

05-30-2007, 12:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dj Hunny Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LBC, CA Posts: 187 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yeh, it's not going to be anything dramatic, you wil have to replace your clutch sooner, but cars are basically made to learn on...what else can you do..

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TJ213 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 18 Posts: 3,051 iTrader: 0 / 0%	the clutch may wear faster, but clutches are wear parts anyways, as long as you don't mis shift and over rev

05-31-2007, 01:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
TJ213 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 18 Posts: 3,051 iTrader: 0 / 0%	just keep practicing, you'll be rev matching and heel-toe shifting before you know it btw, this car does seem to have a tough clutch to learn on, I stalled this car out more than the car I learned on

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Jardiniboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 3,822 Jasten iTrader: 2 / 100%	Just keep practicing like at a park. Work on your smoothness and try different methods and see which one you like.

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Metalhead852 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Drum, NY Age: 23 Posts: 334 Michael iTrader: 0 / 0%	I first learned how to drive a stick on a 80's model ford escort and then a 96 F-150. I gotta say I'm glad I learned early in high school before buying my first new car and having to worry about what I might do to it. So I'm gonna buy my first kid a beater car to learn on... probably the one I have now by then. :P

07-29-2007, 06:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
kelmar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,184 iTrader: 1 / 100%	If you let it out TOO slow, it's called slipping the clutch. Over time, it will lead to premature clutch death. It typically won't happen overnight. If you do it at 8k rpms then you'll probably kill the clutch pretty darn quick. What situations are you referring to when you say you release the clutch slow? Ideally, the only time you would have to release it "slow" is starting in 1st. Even then, it shouldn't be THAT slow.