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Old 11-07-2006, 11:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rant about my old car and Si

Ok heres the deal i want my parents to help me buy an Si. Before you say anything i'm 19 turning 20 years old i have driven a beater 92 Accord for over a year now. The car has broken down on me 4 times and even cost me 300 dollars to tow it home. I'm working hard in college but theres no wayyyyy i can afford a new civic by myself. I think i'll get overwhelmed and school will come second priority, first being working to pay big car payment. Now my parents (get readyyyy) have put a little over three thousand dollars into my accord. I want to cry when i think about it. My dad is the type of person to continuosly spend 200 bucks there and 500 bucks there instead of spending a lump some and getting somehting good. The list of repairs done to my almost 15 year old car does not end,2 distributors,control arms,a/c,power windows,tires,rotors, brakes, valve cover seals, alternator, engine mounts, slave master cylinder, ignition coil,numerous broken things in the interior, came with no radio or speakers,been towed 3 fricken times,etc. I'm very grateful that my dad even got me car to begin because i could have been on the bus. But he refuses to stop putting money into this car. It amazes everytime something brakes he takes it to some mechanic guy and fixes the car with junkyard parts,lol(well sometimes new). Sometimes i seriously think someone needs to have a talk with my dad, he refuses to stop putting money into my 92 accord.It bothers me seeing everyone else spending 5k and getting something they could wash and actuualy feel proud of .Even with all the repairs my car is still a hooptie it leaks water, windows dont seal properly, paintjob is not existant, has typicall accord rust, and to tell you the truth when my friends and I go around girls i avoid them seeing my car cause of how it looks.

Anyway i work part time, keep my current car clean, help with what i can on repairs and i'm pretty good to my parents. I wanna put 5k down on an si and was gonna ask them if they could pay 200 bucks a month on the payment and i will take care of the rest of the payment and any other costs. If i do the math they have put a little over 200 dollars a month into my accord, and lets just say its not getting any newer,lol. What do you guys think? should i aprroach my parents with this plan. BTW my car axles are going , they have been clicking for the past two weeks,lol. clutch has been chattering more also.
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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For your current situation, it would make sense to get a 5 spd LX or EX...you seem to be overreaching with the Si.
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think you should suck it up. Be a adult.

I got two girls thru college. I didnt buy them a car. They both drove one of mine thru highschool. Worked thru highschool and when college came they bought there own late model used cars. Drove them all thru college and are still driving them.

Stop bothering your parents with the car thing. Learn to turn a wrench. Keep your car running. Get out of there pockets. And if the girls at school dont have any respect for a man blazing his on path,,, there not worth lighting up.
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^^ That could work too...
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you or your parents have good credit, you'll have no problem getting an si and paying it off monthly given that you have a good steady job and your parents are willing to put in $200 a month.

You should check you or your parents credit score and factor in the cost of insurance and how much you'll be paying a month depending on what type of financing you apply for.

It's good that you have 5k to put down. Just make sure you finance through a good place with the lowest rate possible, once you start "shopping" around for the lowest rate, do it within a 14 day period to avoid credit score depreciation as credit score companies will count all major inquiries within a 14 day period as 1 inquiry. It hurts your credit score but only minimally.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think you should suck it up. Be a adult.

I got two girls thru college. I didnt buy them a car. They both drove one of mine thru highschool. Worked thru highschool and when college came they bought there own late model used cars. Drove them all thru college and are still driving them.

Stop bothering your parents with the car thing. Learn to turn a wrench. Keep your car running. Get out of there pockets. And if the girls at school dont have any respect for a man blazing his on path,,, there not worth lighting up.
I'm postive i can keep my car runnning thru college. But is it worth it? I could probably buy a late model used car on my own but with my parents willing to help me to some degree i could take the money i would spend on a late model used car along with theirs and probably have my Si. My dad just does not believe in buying something good at once. Hes the same guy that bought 1000 dollars worth of fake leather coats couple years ago LMFAO (i love my dad i just cant help that one) Story was he needed a leather jacket and instead of dropppin some decent cash on one good one he runs into some lowlife selling some for cheap and the sidewalk and decides to buy a thousand dollars worth. When he came home the moment my mom saw the coats she new they were fake. The guy told my dad his name was Nacho, LOL he never saw him again. Anyway thanks for the replies guys

BTW i think my dads credit is very good. I've heard him talk about it when he bought his ford. His interest rate was like 3 or 4 % (yea i know thats ford)

Oh almost forgot, i would love to know how to turn a wrench. I try all the time but i dont know anyone close enough that can teach me anything about cars except the net. I do try though. I installed my own igntion coil, door handles, shift boot, radio, speakers,sub,radar harwire, and stopped one of the leaks in my trunk. I try but i cant see myslef installing something like a control arm with out someone savvy with cars next to me.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It sounds like you just need a reliable car, I agree with the first poster. Get a LX 5 speed, and that would be perfect for you. perhaps get a Mazda 3, those are cool too.
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I think you should meet somewhere in the middle. I mean going from 92 Accord to 06/07 Si is a big step but I guess if you're looking to "pick-up chicks" it's your call.
Why not go for a 7th gen civic or even a Corolla or Yaris it up?
Otherwise it's time to call Xzibit to PIMP YOUR RIDE
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I think you should meet somewhere in the middle. I mean going from 92 Accord to 06/07 Si is a big step but I guess if you're looking to "pick-up chicks" it's your call.
Why not go for a 7th gen civic or even a Corolla or Yaris it up?
Otherwise it's time to call Xzibit to PIMP YOUR RIDE
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah i wouldnt mind pickin up some chicks along the way. I dont really think goin from 92 to a new Si is bad, its a big step but i think its fair. I think going from no car to new Si is a big step. But i'm pretty responsible, and i've wanted to buy the Si for the longest. Even since the Ep3, but i no longer like them anymore. Originally i was planning on buying a motorcycle for spring time but a few things are quickly changing my mind about the whole motorcycle thing. One of them being my unreliable car. Thats the reason i want the Si to cure my itch from the bike. The Si will be reliable and it will have nice features that i can appreciate like 8k redline 197 hp and stiff suspension and i love the look, and not having to have the same civic as the run in the mill 16 year old girl driving around my area.

Does anyone esle feel the way i do about putting all this money into a 92 accord. I mean who else think puttting 3g's into a 92 accord is a very bad idea. Or do you guys feel that it is OK, would anyone else have done this? For example one of my friends spent 3800 on a 97 accord and in two years he has only put about 300 bucks into that car.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Wow, this thread is great. 'Entitlement' is the best word that comes to mind.

I'll agree that continually adding money to an old car is not cost effective, however, your appellation that 'going from a 92 to an Si is fair' just doesn't float.

That your parents have been generous enough to provide you a car (under continuous repair or not) shows a great deal of generosity, compassion, and character on their parts. You should be appreciative of their largess, rather than asking if its 'fair' that you should get a new Si. Instead you seem to have the expectation that you should get a (mostly free) Si to drive in college...this is beyond a stretch. I am having flashbacks to Tight_Si here.

I think it is grand when a parent can provide luxuries for their children when they go off to college. Instead this is typically what you see. "I want more". "I deserve more". Sorry, son, I'll agree that constant repairs is not cost effective, however, getting a new toy because you want to scratch your motorcycle itch is not something I'd sign up for. Good luck with that.
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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As a college student and someone in nearly the same situation as you (minus the Accord part), I can understand where you're coming from.

Looking back on things, though, I kind of wish I would've went with an EX and not the Si.

Don't get me wrong; I love the 17" rims, the Si exclusive paint colors, the faux-suede interior, the 8k redline, the spoiler and the red bacing, but in the long run, my gas mileage has fallen to around 15-18 mpg city (23 EPA estimates) and it's not really stop and go traffic, either. It's not too cold yet, either. Also, I don't hammer on the car, hardly at all. I like winding it up sometimes, but I shift aruond 3k 95% of the time.

I would like the 30/40 of the EX, and the interior fabric doesn't dirty/wear as easily. I think the blue bacing honestly looks better too. I dunno, it all is up to you, but if I had to do it all again, I would look at the EX, or maybe not even the Civic at all...the paint job and interior material's scratch-prone surfaces is almost enough to turn me off the car entirely. I'd have looked heavier into the Cobalt, G5, and the tC. I know people are going to give me shit about the Cobalt and the G5 (and maybe the tC), but the fact of the matter is, while I know the transmission is unrefined on the Cobalt/G5, I've driven them, and they are peppy cars, and the interior doesn't scratch when you look at it the wrong way, even if it is make of "less quality" materials.
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Well at 200 dollars a month for 4 years my parents would be paying for a little less than half of the car. So it wont be mostly free. I also dont want to seem unapreciative. I appreciate everything thing my parents are doing for me but i just wish they could redirect those same efforts into a channel i suggested. So far it would have costed them rouhgly the same amount and i'm willing to bet my car will continue to need repairs. I'm not saying it will need the same level of repairs for the next four years but i can already name a few things that are gonna need to be done soon.

Also why isnt it fair to go from a very old car to a new car. I didnt know there were steps along they way. I might as well keep the old whip and save as much as i can.
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I was in the same situation, except I had a 82 accord that kept threatening to die on me. My parents do not pay at all for my car, but they did co-sign so I don't get shafted by interest.
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Wow mike are you in school full time? Do you get overwhelmed by paymnets insurance etc? how much are your payments? Wow i thought i had it bad you were driving an 82 lol. Shit that must have been bad.
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I think you should go for what you want. If they shoot you down, they shoot you down. What do you have to louse? :)
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Wow, this thread is great. 'Entitlement' is the best word that comes to mind.

I'll agree that continually adding money to an old car is not cost effective, however, your appellation that 'going from a 92 to an Si is fair' just doesn't float.

That your parents have been generous enough to provide you a car (under continuous repair or not) shows a great deal of generosity, compassion, and character on their parts. You should be appreciative of their largess, rather than asking if its 'fair' that you should get a new Si. Instead you seem to have the expectation that you should get a (mostly free) Si to drive in college...this is beyond a stretch. I am having flashbacks to Tight_Si here.

I think it is grand when a parent can provide luxuries for their children when they go off to college. Instead this is typically what you see. "I want more". "I deserve more". Sorry, son, I'll agree that constant repairs is not cost effective, however, getting a new toy because you want to scratch your motorcycle itch is not something I'd sign up for. Good luck with that.
Well said, Janizary!

xmx250, although it seems like they are wasting money on your older car, it might just cost them less over the long run to repair the little things that go wrong with it rather than buying you a new car. Even "inexpensive" new cars are quite an investment.

Also, I don't know if your parents pay your car insurance, but with a new car, you will have to get full coverage instead of just having liability, resulting in an additional drain on their budget.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah they pay my insurance and gas money, and if i'm lucky my car wash and oil change.








LOL j/k. I split the insurance half and half with them. And pay for everyting else like oil, gas. BTW guys i pay for some of the repairs not all but some.
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Wow mike are you in school full time? Do you get overwhelmed by paymnets insurance etc? how much are your payments? Wow i thought i had it bad you were driving an 82 lol. Shit that must have been bad.
Full time student, and practically full time work (anywhere from 35 to 45 hours a week). I pay about 275 a month for the car, and then my insurance is like... 1500 a year. It can get overwhelming sometimes but as long as you can manage time...its all good.

the '82 was awesome. had 50k miles when i bought it 2 years ago. 72 hp, and 0 torque. The carborator was shot, water pump was going, auto tranny dieing, and needed new axles. I thought it was smarter buying a new car.
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Just go with a lower end model...you basically need safe, reliable transportation that can fit within your budget. Nothing wrong with an LX or EX.
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