SRI cold air.

Marin · 06-23-2006, 09:08 AM

Okay, i was thinking about this the other day. Obviously the downfall of a short ram is it sucks in hot air. What if you got some dryer ducting and routed it from the shortram inlet down to the same area the cold air intake goes and cut out a hole were the fog light. This would draw cold air from the front of the car to the filter on the shortram? Has anyone thaught of this? Im sure it is worth some kind of a HP gain when the hood is closed. Let me know what you think.

I dont think it would be hard to do because you could make the duct go in the same place the cold air intake is supposed to go.

CNUco2007 · 06-23-2006, 10:11 AM

why not just buy a CAI?

brooklynscat69 · 06-23-2006, 10:12 AM

Hence it will be called a cold air intake.

ALso if you wanted to get cold air why not just get a cold air? Anyways if your worried about hydrolock, your still bringing down a tube which will do the same thing anyway.

peliROJO · 06-23-2006, 10:50 AM

Just install a hood scoop. Don't make a cheap version of a CAI.

FujiBlueSi · 06-23-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by brooklynscat69

Hence it will be called a cold air intake.

ALso if you wanted to get cold air why not just get a cold air? Anyways if your worried about hydrolock, your still bringing down a tube which will do the same thing anyway.

I think what he means is more or a ram air effect. The hose would not be touching the filter directly so it would not create vacuum to draw in water.

On that note, I don't know if it would be effective enough to show a difference. Without the vacuum effect that CAI's have the air will lose velocity by the time it reaches the filter. Since the air is moving slow it will most likely warm up by the time it reaches the filter. It's an interesting idea. Try it an let us know how it works. Worst case scenario, it doesn't increase power. It wouldn't decrease power though so it couldn't hurt to try.

brooklynscat69 · 06-23-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by peliROJO

Just install a hood scoop. Don't make a cheap version of a CAI.

Then just nickname your civic , Ricey.

larryd · 06-23-2006, 01:17 PM

It would give a ram air effect but the main difference between a CAI and SRI is the temperature of the intake charge. Running a scoop or a tube to feed the SRI will not give the same temperature change that a CAI will.

It would not hurt though.

Marin · 06-24-2006, 01:18 AM

See, im probably going to just get a cold air intake, i think all the short ram is good for is sound. Have you ever opened your hood after driving for an hour? You cant even touch anything because it will burn your hand. I think without a cold charge you arent getting anywere with a shortram.

chillen420 · 06-24-2006, 01:48 AM

its not like your car comes stock with a CAI your getting gains eitheir way. both systems could be used for diffrent applications and setups.

just keeps those puddles in mind if you get a CAI.

Deamon · 06-24-2006, 03:31 AM

Sounds like you should just get a Comptech Ice box if your wanting a cold air type function, minus the hydrolock issue.

Marin · 06-24-2006, 09:08 AM

well you have to think about it this way as well, the only way you are going to suck up a lot of water is if that entire filter is submerged. The filter sits above the rocker line of the car so you would have to be in a big puddle to do a lot of damage, and if your driving through puddles that big then your doing something wrong. Even if a bit of the filter was submerged there isn't enough vacum in the intake to be sucking up water, it would just keep sucking air through the part that isnt in the water. And as far as water getting the the filter driving through small puddles i dont think is a concern because the entire area were the fiilter sits is closed off.

Sam388 · 06-24-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marin

well you have to think about it this way as well, the only way you are going to suck up a lot of water is if that entire filter is submerged. The filter sits above the rocker line of the car so you would have to be in a big puddle to do a lot of damage, and if your driving through puddles that big then your doing something wrong. Even if a bit of the filter was submerged there isn't enough vacum in the intake to be sucking up water, it would just keep sucking air through the part that isnt in the water. And as far as water getting the the filter driving through small puddles i dont think is a concern because the entire area were the fiilter sits is closed off.

I agree, but maybe some of us just don't want to take our bumper off to gain 7hp. Fujita claims 11hp with their SRI and I don't care if they did it with the hood open or closed. Hydrolock isn't the only concern people have when they are looking at intakes. How about looks, ease of installation, price, sound, and filter access to name a few.

brooklynscat69 · 06-24-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam388

I agree, but maybe some of us just don't want to take our bumper off to gain 7hp. Fujita claims 11hp with their SRI and I don't care if they did it with the hood open or closed. Hydrolock isn't the only concern people have when they are looking at intakes. How about looks, ease of installation, price, sound, and filter access to name a few.

Good Point.

All_bets_off · 06-24-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brooklynscat69

Then just nickname your civic , Ricey.

hey! Not all induction hoods are rice...

brooklynscat69 · 06-24-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by All_bets_off

hey! Not all induction hoods are rice...

On a civic, yes. But to each his own.

Marin · 06-24-2006, 08:49 PM

i think a lot of people are very worried about hydrolock, inorder to have a sever case of hydrolock the entire filter must be submerged in water, and that would mean your driving in 2 feet of water, who drives in 2 feet of water? The filter on teh cai is in a cavity behind the bumber totally blocked by the bumper, wheel well, and frame. Like i said before, even if half the filter is submerged it's doesnt have enough force to suck up water. Those are just my thaughts, as far as gains from a short ram, i dont think there are any except for sound. The stock air box draws cold air from the fender, if anything there is a more efficient charge in the stock air box system. They do advertise gains of 9hp with the short ram but that is more than likely with an open hood and not a extremely hot engine.

Marin · 06-24-2006, 08:51 PM

I dunno, i guess i am just torn between the same things you said, ease of instalation, access to filter, but im still worried about sucking up all that hot air.

Marin · 06-24-2006, 08:51 PM

it would be nice to have someone dyno a short ram with the hood closed to see exactly what kind of gains they are capable of.

brooklynscat69 · 06-24-2006, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marin

i think a lot of people are very worried about hydrolock, inorder to have a sever case of hydrolock the entire filter must be submerged in water, and that would mean your driving in 2 feet of water, who drives in 2 feet of water? The filter on teh cai is in a cavity behind the bumber totally blocked by the bumper, wheel well, and frame. Like i said before, even if half the filter is submerged it's doesnt have enough force to suck up water.

Umm maybe when it rains alot. And there are puddles you cant go around. It happens everywhere. Even if the fender was protecting it, water can go around thingss. Think about that.

06-23-2006, 09:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Marin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton Age: 25 Posts: 189 Damian iTrader: 3 / 100%	SRI cold air. Okay, i was thinking about this the other day. Obviously the downfall of a short ram is it sucks in hot air. What if you got some dryer ducting and routed it from the shortram inlet down to the same area the cold air intake goes and cut out a hole were the fog light. This would draw cold air from the front of the car to the filter on the shortram? Has anyone thaught of this? Im sure it is worth some kind of a HP gain when the hood is closed. Let me know what you think. I dont think it would be hard to do because you could make the duct go in the same place the cold air intake is supposed to go.

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06-23-2006, 10:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
CNUco2007 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chesapeake, VA Age: 23 Posts: 1,175 Eric iTrader: 6 / 100%	why not just buy a CAI?

06-23-2006, 10:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
brooklynscat69 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brentwood, NY Posts: 1,874 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Hence it will be called a cold air intake. ALso if you wanted to get cold air why not just get a cold air? Anyways if your worried about hydrolock, your still bringing down a tube which will do the same thing anyway.

06-23-2006, 10:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
peliROJO Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: currently in Africa Age: 30 Posts: 1,234 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Just install a hood scoop. Don't make a cheap version of a CAI.

06-23-2006, 01:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
larryd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,809 iTrader: 2 / 100%	It would give a ram air effect but the main difference between a CAI and SRI is the temperature of the intake charge. Running a scoop or a tube to feed the SRI will not give the same temperature change that a CAI will. It would not hurt though.

06-24-2006, 01:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Marin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton Age: 25 Posts: 189 Damian iTrader: 3 / 100%	See, im probably going to just get a cold air intake, i think all the short ram is good for is sound. Have you ever opened your hood after driving for an hour? You cant even touch anything because it will burn your hand. I think without a cold charge you arent getting anywere with a shortram.

06-24-2006, 01:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
chillen420 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15 iTrader: 0 / 0%	its not like your car comes stock with a CAI your getting gains eitheir way. both systems could be used for diffrent applications and setups. just keeps those puddles in mind if you get a CAI.

06-24-2006, 03:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Baghdad, Iraq right now. Posts: 234 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Sounds like you should just get a Comptech Ice box if your wanting a cold air type function, minus the hydrolock issue.

06-24-2006, 09:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
Marin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton Age: 25 Posts: 189 Damian iTrader: 3 / 100%	well you have to think about it this way as well, the only way you are going to suck up a lot of water is if that entire filter is submerged. The filter sits above the rocker line of the car so you would have to be in a big puddle to do a lot of damage, and if your driving through puddles that big then your doing something wrong. Even if a bit of the filter was submerged there isn't enough vacum in the intake to be sucking up water, it would just keep sucking air through the part that isnt in the water. And as far as water getting the the filter driving through small puddles i dont think is a concern because the entire area were the fiilter sits is closed off.

06-24-2006, 08:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
Marin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton Age: 25 Posts: 189 Damian iTrader: 3 / 100%	i think a lot of people are very worried about hydrolock, inorder to have a sever case of hydrolock the entire filter must be submerged in water, and that would mean your driving in 2 feet of water, who drives in 2 feet of water? The filter on teh cai is in a cavity behind the bumber totally blocked by the bumper, wheel well, and frame. Like i said before, even if half the filter is submerged it's doesnt have enough force to suck up water. Those are just my thaughts, as far as gains from a short ram, i dont think there are any except for sound. The stock air box draws cold air from the fender, if anything there is a more efficient charge in the stock air box system. They do advertise gains of 9hp with the short ram but that is more than likely with an open hood and not a extremely hot engine.

06-24-2006, 08:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
Marin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton Age: 25 Posts: 189 Damian iTrader: 3 / 100%	I dunno, i guess i am just torn between the same things you said, ease of instalation, access to filter, but im still worried about sucking up all that hot air.

06-24-2006, 08:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
Marin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton Age: 25 Posts: 189 Damian iTrader: 3 / 100%	it would be nice to have someone dyno a short ram with the hood closed to see exactly what kind of gains they are capable of.