Civic pride TSI R18 turbo! - Page 6

Gr3y Goose · 05-13-2008, 09:57 PM

so i guess my point is proven

Civic Pride · 05-13-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blueroadster

I would not heed the advice from an Autozone worker (no offense to those that work there and actually know stuff though).

Yea, i know but i just went there to get the engine code number.. there is nothing i can do right now, i will let my tuner know about it and maybe he can help.. i did added some fuel cleaner i figure am not harming nothing by doing so.. ther car has been running great today.. thats why i went out and took some more videos.. i will post the inside car one so you guys can check the speedo jump by 5mph everytime..

Civic Pride · 05-13-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gr3y Goose

so i guess my point is proven

I never said i turbo was perfect, there will always be issues with them specialy running a piggyback system.. but i said a turbo car can be reliable if driven properly, and many are just as reliable as stock.. but right now all R18 owners are having small issues that will be fix overtime.. most of this issues come from the piggyback system.. But i do agree with you on some of this..

***sbigshot*** · 05-13-2008, 10:10 PM

Good job!! Should be pretty sweet once the fine tuning is complete, be careful and have fun with it....

blueroadster · 05-13-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Civic Pride

I never said i turbo was perfect, there will always be issues with them specialy running a piggyback system.. but i said a turbo car can be reliable if driven properly, and many are just as reliable as stock.. but right now all R18 owners are having small issues that will be fix overtime.. most of this issues come from the piggyback system.. But i do agree with you on some of this..

Piggyback/parallel solutions are the only solution in the short-mid term. Honda just needs to wake up and support the performance side of the K20.

Civic Pride · 05-13-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blueroadster

Piggyback/parallel solutions are the only solution in the short-mid term. Honda just needs to wake up and support the performance side of the K20.

What about us R18 owners? lol if there is a Kpro or something like that, do you think R18 owners will be able to use it? i know we don't have k20s but it will be nice if it work on our cars to..

and thanks sbigshot, it has been a while since last time i seen you on here..

Implosive_Disgorgence · 05-14-2008, 12:50 AM

kpro = K series engine management

kpro will never work on our r18s, but maybe someone will make an EM for us... who knows

txgriff · 05-14-2008, 01:07 AM

I would think a standalone system wouldn't be that hard to make once they make kpro because both the r18 and k20 have the same wiring for the ecu. the boomslang harness for the tsi kit is made for a si. but the question is would there be enough interest to pay $2000 or so on the r18. sure some of us have already spent between 5000-6000 but would you be willing to spend another 2k just for another 20whp?

bobby jayaram · 05-14-2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Civic Pride

Well i just got back from autozone and they pull my engine code number and it is PO401.. can the fact that am tune alittle rich be the problem?

PO401=Insufficient EGR Flow

There is a blanking plate included in the kit to replace the pipe where the original CAT used to connect ,have you fixed this with the gasket .

NSPYR · 05-14-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobby jayaram

There is a blanking plate included in the kit to replace the pipe where the original CAT used to connect ,have you fixed this with the gasket .

This kit blocks the EGR so i find that if u tune the car rich it doesn't seem to drive very well, also you have to tune ur volt coz at high rpms they tend to be a bit high, i had that same problem with the check engine light coming on the highway while i was with my tuner but since he was there he was able to retify it...

Street2uned · 05-14-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wreckless06si

Lke you said I bet the MAF read a whole bunch of air going into the intake and really not having anywhere to go and the computer probably had a heart attack and went into limp mode.

I was going to just let this go, but figured why not say something real quick. If your motor is running, then how would the air be coming into the intake and not have anywhere to go??? With the motor still running, there is still air and fuel entering the motor, being combusted and being expelled out of the motor.

OP- Welcome to the world of aftermarket turbos and check engine lights. Buy a scanner, it'll save you more time than you'll ever know.

Civic Pride · 05-14-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NSPYR

This kit blocks the EGR so i find that if u tune the car rich it doesn't seem to drive very well, also you have to tune ur volt coz at high rpms they tend to be a bit high, i had that same problem with the check engine light coming on the highway while i was with my tuner but since he was there he was able to retify it...

So the F/IC will take care of the EGR engine code? and what settings did your tuner use to eliminate it? i hate engine codes.. and am tune on the richer side right now to be on the safe side..

and bobby jayaram said if i have fix this with a gasket? will a gasket fix the engine light? or the F/IC..

RonsFG1 · 05-14-2008, 11:56 PM

i was wondering does the turbo effect the gas mileage at all. this is something i would like to do for my r18a one day. would be nice to save gas still and be quick when needed

Street2uned · 05-15-2008, 12:17 AM

Yup, this isn't a gas saver modification. Normal driving should really hurt your gas milage at all. Get on it and you'll notice the difference. You are forcing much more air into the motor than it was taking in while in it's stock configuration. You'll need to add more fuel with the increase in air.

***Ruthless909*** · 05-15-2008, 12:24 AM

Nice!

RonsFG1 · 05-15-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Street2uned

Yup, this isn't a gas saver modification. Normal driving should really hurt your gas milage at all. Get on it and you'll notice the difference. You are forcing much more air into the motor than it was taking in while in it's stock configuration. You'll need to add more fuel with the increase in air.

that what i was thinking. I also wonder how much hp and tq could a r18 take before a rebuild.

HondaFREAK · 05-15-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RonsFG1

that what i was thinking. I also wonder how much hp and tq could a r18 take before a rebuild.

anything more that 200hp/tq and you're looking at a rebuild at lot sooner than you would have to and sub 200hp or at stock. I'd take a guess at 250hp when you start having to rebuild it monthly...but who knows....my friend has a b16 running at 300hp+ on stock internals....don't know how it's stayed together, but it has. but for the new r18 it would be too much wear and tear on the stock internals...6psi and 180hp/185tq would be plenty for me

anavrin351 · 05-15-2008, 12:44 AM

i think my d15b7 could handle 200hp with stock internals. i think the r18 could take a bit more than that. it is 12 years later, and thats alot when it comes to cars.

Civic Pride · 05-15-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Civic Pride

So the F/IC will take care of the EGR engine code? and what settings did your tuner use to eliminate it? i hate engine codes.. and am tune on the richer side right now to be on the safe side..

and bobby jayaram said if i have fix this with a gasket? will a gasket fix the engine light? or the F/IC..

anyone?

HondaFREAK · 05-15-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Civic Pride

anyone?

not an expert here, but i think the gasket would fix it, but that's my personal opinion...

anavrin351, I would be more willing to agree with you since technology has gotten better, but keep in mind the d15 and b16 blocks come from heavier stock, and with the "short block" issues honda has been having I doubt that the R18 could handle 220+hp for an extended period of time. If you don't know about the short block thing, I think there are a few threads of people saying their engine blocks cracked at 30,000miles and needed to be replaced..so I'm skeptical, but if it happens I'll be

, amazed and ridiculously happy all at the same time

I love my R18 nonetheless, and I think Pro Civic and TSI have done a AWESOME job with this kit

And to the OP props to you to get this kit up and running in record time. Sorry for the slight thread jack

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05-13-2008, 09:57 PM	#101 (permalink)
Gr3y Goose Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The House that Ruth Built Age: 21 Posts: 2,485 Goose iTrader: 3 / 100%	so i guess my point is proven

05-13-2008, 10:10 PM	#104 (permalink)
*sbigshot* VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,039 iTrader: 18 / 100%	Good job!! Should be pretty sweet once the fine tuning is complete, be careful and have fun with it....

05-14-2008, 12:50 AM	#107 (permalink)
Implosive_Disgorgence Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pembroke pines / Davie Florida Posts: 115 Erick iTrader: 0 / 0%	kpro = K series engine management kpro will never work on our r18s, but maybe someone will make an EM for us... who knows

05-14-2008, 01:07 AM	#108 (permalink)
txgriff Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Austin, TX Age: 21 Posts: 169 Griffin iTrader: 0 / 0%	I would think a standalone system wouldn't be that hard to make once they make kpro because both the r18 and k20 have the same wiring for the ecu. the boomslang harness for the tsi kit is made for a si. but the question is would there be enough interest to pay $2000 or so on the r18. sure some of us have already spent between 5000-6000 but would you be willing to spend another 2k just for another 20whp?

05-14-2008, 11:56 PM	#113 (permalink)
RonsFG1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: charlottesville Posts: 135 Ron iTrader: 1 / 100%	i was wondering does the turbo effect the gas mileage at all. this is something i would like to do for my r18a one day. would be nice to save gas still and be quick when needed

05-15-2008, 12:17 AM	#114 (permalink)
Street2uned Senior Member Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 25 Posts: 1,125 Michael iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yup, this isn't a gas saver modification. Normal driving should really hurt your gas milage at all. Get on it and you'll notice the difference. You are forcing much more air into the motor than it was taking in while in it's stock configuration. You'll need to add more fuel with the increase in air.

05-15-2008, 12:24 AM	#115 (permalink)
*Ruthless909* Ahhh! Domokun! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: +Evil Empire+ So.Cal (951) Age: 23 Posts: 5,809 FA*Crew#4 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Nice!

05-15-2008, 12:44 AM	#118 (permalink)
anavrin351 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 23 Posts: 1,991 Tyler iTrader: 2 / 100%	i think my d15b7 could handle 200hp with stock internals. i think the r18 could take a bit more than that. it is 12 years later, and thats alot when it comes to cars.