Something you should consider before going AJP: A true story about liars

[firmhonda]

Does anyone else find it kind of odd that AJP will respond within minutes of someone saying they're a great company, and yet when someone is unhappy with them they're nowhere to be found? I honestly thought that AJP was just kind of going through a slump, I didn't know that was the start of a ****storm that they don't care to clean up. It's like some small nothing shop made some decent cash for the first time in its existance and is now just having a blast while not caring about it's current customers or how the potential customers view them.

I stood up for ajp for a good amount of time, even when they were sitting with their thumbs up their butts while Jeremy needed parts from them.. Which in turn helped contribute to it taking a month and a half for his turbo kit to be installed, which is ridiculous. Now, I'll be one of the people that tells people just to accept the less power and go greddy. At least with greddy (west) **** gets taken care of instead of them bailing out as soon as the check clears. AJP = massive amounts of power with a few problems. The trade off is worth it to some people, but you factor in a company that's not willing to help with those problems and you've got a really really kick ass ebay turbo kit. It's all good, but don't expect any help from the seller.

[NIGHTHAWKSI]

Originally Posted by zionrug

That's real hot dude. You took a ride in my AJP'd car that runs like a beast and is trouble free yet you chime in this thread.

The only problem I ever had with AJP is that they were a little late with sending my Hondata IMG. When I needed my reflash done Tony stepped up to the plate and expedited the process with Hondata when there was an issue.Tony always returned my calls and answered my questions in a prompt and curteous manner.

I've had my kit on for about 1000 miles now and it has been trouble free. The car exceeds my expectations and doesn't seem to have the problems most people with the fantabulous Greddy kit are experiencing.

Overall I'm glad I spent the money on the AJP kit and a good install. I won't have to drop another $1000 on cams and still be quite a ways from 300WHP.


That is all.

lol...i wouldnt bother defnding for a comany that wont defend itself.....

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by zionrug

That's real hot dude. You took a ride in my AJP'd car that runs like a beast and is trouble free yet you chime in this thread.

The only problem I ever had with AJP is that they were a little late with sending my Hondata IMG. When I needed my reflash done Tony stepped up to the plate and expedited the process with Hondata when there was an issue.Tony always returned my calls and answered my questions in a prompt and curteous manner.

I've had my kit on for about 1000 miles now and it has been trouble free. The car exceeds my expectations and doesn't seem to have the problems most people with the fantabulous Greddy kit are experiencing.

Overall I'm glad I spent the money on the AJP kit and a good install. I won't have to drop another $1000 on cams and still be quite a ways from 300WHP.


That is all.

Did AJP install the kit? It seems that they're the only ones that know how to install the kit, not to mention the fact that while they say that they'll help the shop (that's installing the kit) no matter what it seems that they're really hesitant to do so.

BTW, I've been around an ajp "stage 2" fg2 from the day it was dropped off to be installed, the day it was picked up, to now (probably a good 3k miles later) and the kit is nice.. but the little things that are annoying about it could be easily remidied with help from the damn shop that produced the kit and yet they don't help much at all. I don't own an ajp fg2, and I'm not speaking for the owner. I'm speaking as his best friend that's been around it since day one.

BTW, it is a ****ing beast. I never thought that I would hear a damn honda civic scream like that with just a turbo kit, and it still shocks me. When I first saw one beat a modded srt4 without downshifting out of 5th I was impressed, and when I saw one beat a modded exige like it was a fart in the wind I was more impressed.. But when they sat around for days when they could've been shipping out parts that were needed.... well, that pretty much kills the whole nice part of the kit.

[zionrug]

Originally Posted by firmhonda

Did AJP install the kit? It seems that they're the only ones that know how to install the kit, not to mention the fact that while they say that they'll help the shop (that's installing the kit) no matter what it seems that they're really hesitant to do so.

BTW, I've been around an ajp "stage 2" fg2 from the day it was dropped off to be installed, the day it was picked up, to now (probably a good 3k miles later) and the kit is nice.. but the little things that are annoying about it could be easily remidied with help from the damn shop that produced the kit and yet they don't help much at all. I don't own an ajp fg2, and I'm not speaking for the owner. I'm speaking as his best friend that's been around it since day one.

I think I'm the first AJP'd FA5 out there that is not in South Florida. The shop re-did some of the charge pipes and modified the oil pan themselves. In fact it's the same shop that installed 06civSI's Greddy kit. They said it was way easier to install the Greddy kit than the AJP kit and that the Greddy kit was rock solid from a construction standpoint.

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by zionrug

I think I'm the first AJP'd FA5 out there that is not in South Florida. The shop re-did some of the charge pipes and modified the oil pan themselves. In fact it's the same shop that installed 06civSI's Greddy kit. They said it was way easier to install the Greddy kit than the AJP kit and that the Greddy kit was rock solid from a construction standpoint.

That's awesome, and I'm glad you're happy with your kit. But, even from your post, it seems as if there were other things that needed to be done to the kit before it would work properly, which it should've been shipped from AJP without it needing any modifications.

Like I said, the fact that the kit puts out that much power is still amazing, I just think it's only worth it if the company that produces the kit is willing to help out with the problems associated with it. If they bail, all potential customers should too IMO.

[zionrug]

I bought the kit used and the shop wanted to make sure there were no issues later on down the line. To quote the shop owner " I didn't like how some of the charge pipes fit so I fabbed up some better ones."

Originally Posted by firmhonda

That's awesome, and I'm glad you're happy with your kit. But, even from your post, it seems as if there were other things that needed to be done to the kit before it would work properly, which it should've been shipped from AJP without it needing any modifications.

Like I said, the fact that the kit puts out that much power is still amazing, I just think it's only worth it if the company that produces the kit is willing to help out with the problems associated with it. If they bail, all potential customers should too IMO.

[YOGIx213]

Man, this story really took a turn for the worse. I was keeping up with your whole journey from start to dismal finish and it's so disappointing. I feel for you because of all the time, money and effort put into this project, only to be burned. I'm glad that there are happy customers out there with working AJP kits but it's stories like this that piss me off. Customer service and support go a LONG way. That's why I'm just being patient and will see what comes up from trusted, reliable, established companies.

I compare AJP to Barry Bonds. After the book "Game of Shadows" claimed that Barry was juicing up with Steroids, he never made a fuss about it and brushed it off as BS. If it were so slanderous and wrong, the typical person would go after the authors with lawyers and fight tooth and nail to prove that the accusations were false. His silence about the situation has been more damaging then anything. The same goes for this situation with AJP. They need to speak up or forever be damned!!

F the GIANTS!! GO DODGERS!!!! (Sorry, couldn't help myself. I still have much love for my bay area brothers).

[StLVtec]

that is one long ass post. but that sucks

[JeShUa]

Originally Posted by zionrug

I bought the kit used and the shop wanted to make sure there were no issues later on down the line. To quote the shop owner " I didn't like how some of the charge pipes fit so I fabbed up some better ones."

IMO > WTF is that?
Whats a kit if there is some fabrication work? Its definitely not a kit.. But in my situation, they didn't even send their "whole kit". And had it all been there, it would have required some custom fabrication. A kit to me would be something that someone with skills would be able to put in themselves. I don't think everyone is able to make themselves an EGR block off.

Aside from that.. I want to see how they explain why they gave me a shipping number, never shipped anything, and blamed it on UPS.

[lit420_si]

Originally Posted by zionrug

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I've had my kit on for about 1000 miles now and it has been trouble free. The car exceeds my expectations and doesn't seem to have the problems most people with the fantabulous Greddy kit are experiencing.

Overall I'm glad I spent the money on the AJP kit and a good install. I won't have to drop another $1000 on cams and still be quite a ways from 300WHP.


That is all.

....no problems here!! AJP did install my kit and its fine . On top of that,I always get great service when I call them or if Im at the shop.

[Dwn4nythng]

This is why I say why is everyone going with these noob companies. How long has AJP been out? Any company that hasn't passed the 5-10 year in business mark with a good reputation doesn't mean nothing to me. People on these forums talk alot of crap about good companies that has a good reputation, proves they don't know squat. Never heard of AJP til I got on these forums. Makes you think if people are getting some kind of cut or discount to say good things. AJP always sucked in my book even if they put out over 500hp. People who can't wait usually buys all this crap. People who have been in the game for a long time knows to wait for the good sh*t and to wait for all the mods to be improved if it was faulty. AJP FTMFL! Greddy FTMFW!

[MonkeyConQueso]

I like seeing people come on here and defend a company because of their sucess, but in this case AJP actually needs to come in here and talk about this specific issue that JeShUa is encountering.

While AJP came through for some people (mostly people who could drive to FL, or live there from what it seems), it seems that others are being left out in the cold because they don't have their kit refined as advertized. In this case, it seems that they misrepresented themselves and were lazy about a remote installer. If they don't think their product is a bolt-on KIT, then they need to stop advertizing it as such and get qualified installers on board with their product, or stick to doing the installs themselves.

That's my $.02. AJP, get in here and make things right, or perish through bad business practice.

[06civictx]

aww hell na where da cliffs?

[Kurt]

Saw this coming.

[gadalla]

Originally Posted by 06civictx

aww hell na where da cliffs?

where da grammar?

[06civictx]

Originally Posted by gadalla

where da grammar?

i needz no grammar

[7AndrewPD]

The cliffs would be that ajp kinda screwed this guy.

[SoFLACiViCSi06]

How long has AJP been out? Any company that hasn't passed the 5-10 year in business mark with a good reputation doesn't mean nothing to me.

Actually they have been in business for a long time, ive been taking my cars there for the past 8 years but it is just recently that they have turned into a performance place. I think otherwise they have been around for 12 years. They a good bunch of guys but sometimes get ahead of themselves, with me thay always made good on things if they ever messed up. Sorry that your kit didnt work out but join the the club, how many greddy kits dont work? Its all about fine tuning and with our cars having such smart computers it makes it that much harder.

[CaliGuy]

Originally Posted by SoFLACiViCSi06

Actually they have been in business for a long time, ive been taking my cars there for the past 8 years but it is just recently that they have turned into a performance place. I think otherwise they have been around for 12 years. They a good bunch of guys but sometimes get ahead of themselves, with me thay always made good on things if they ever messed up. Sorry that your kit didnt work out but join the the club, how many greddy kits dont work? Its all about fine tuning and with our cars having such smart computers it makes it that much harder.

Another SoFla customer. This is what we're all talking about. Everyone in SoFla loves AJP...Everyone (well many) outside SoFla hate them. It seems as if you don't live near them they don't give 2 sh!ts about you! This is not isolated to the OP either...there are countless threads re their poor customer service for those outside SoFla...

I agree with one of the above posters: I think these SoFla people are getting deep discounts or something.

And re your "how many GReddy kits don't work"---far less than AJP and people can actually install them themselves. Also, GReddy (in most situations) has provided outstanding customer service!

[GalaxyGreySi]

The GReddy kit is more like the Comptech SC than AJP's kit IMHO... It's not really fair to compare the two.