What is wrong with AJP?

[bboylocob]

everyone has there own querks with differ comp.ajp is doing there thing,greddy is doing there's and other places are doing there's.i originally got the ajp kit but had to sell b/c of personal reasons and i didnt want that much power.now that i am able to go turbo again i choose greddy.yea its half the power of the ajp stage 1 kit but its half the price too.and with the right upgrades and the right tune it will be up there with ajp power wise.full race are great turbo kits and if thats what you like than go with it.
i mean people need to stop bickering and talking sh!t about differ companies just cuz they dont like the set up or the power.
to each there own.

just my 0.02

[CaliGuy]

Originally Posted by bboylocob

everyone has there own querks with differ comp.ajp is doing there thing,greddy is doing there's and other places are doing there's.i originally got the ajp kit but had to sell b/c of personal reasons and i didnt want that much power.now that i am able to go turbo again i choose greddy.yea its half the power of the ajp stage 1 kit but its half the price too.and with the right upgrades and the right tune it will be up there with ajp power wise.full race are great turbo kits and if thats what you like than go with it.
i mean people need to stop bickering and talking sh!t about differ companies just cuz they dont like the set up or the power.
to each there own.

just my 0.02

I would just like to add that from the posts here GReddy appears to have outstanding customer service...

*waits for Marvie to comment that you get half the stuff from GReddy that you get with the AJP kit*

[esx005]

i have had great customer service w/ ajp. it just takes them a while to get parts to you. the few troubles i have had have been resolved quickly and i have always gotten a hold of them when i neede to.i understand that there are a few people that have bad experiences w/them,i just thought that it is good to hear from the people that have had good ones as well

[CaliGuy]

Originally Posted by esx005

i have had great customer service w/ ajp. it just takes them a while to get parts to you. the few troubles i have had have been resolved quickly and i have always gotten a hold of them when i neede to.i understand that there are a few people that have bad experiences w/them,i just thought that it is good to hear from the people that have had good ones as well

It certainly is. I'm just glad that we can have this dialogue.

[sickyute]

Originally Posted by CaliGuy

I would just like to add that from the posts here GReddy appears to have outstanding customer service...

*waits for Marvie to comment that you get half the stuff from GReddy that you get with the AJP kit*

that's known ...
i don't have to comment on that ...

but where he's wrong is that a greddy kit will never give u above 300whp reliably ...
for more info on that browse other boards ... the hardware is just not capable of such.

[Blk4drSI]

heres what some of you guys have to understand also. They are a small company. When I had my mazdaspeed6, we had a company like them that did alot of work and made parts for all of the MS6 guys. They were call CP-E. They took a while for everything, but they did good work and were devoted to producing MS6 parts. AJP seems to be the same kind of company.

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

some of these problem is also about the claim R&D, if they did what they claim, why is the tune is not that good?? some people say, "becoz its just a reflash", for me, its not hondata's fault to have their reflash shitty..., if they provide a good data/research, hondata can make the refalsh as good as it has a stand alone...

example. hondata is also doing a reflash for comptech S/C's.. but do the Comptech owners have a complain about the tuning??...

[adoBoy619]

subscribed... this is some good stuff for me to know

[enter801]

You could rear mount the turbo. I'm going to try to go this route, I have an appt. May 7th with this company - www.ststurbo.com. It will be an awesome choice if I can get it tuned. I encourage everyone to go read up on their kits. Currently I would have to use their universal kit, but should be very easy to install.

Originally Posted by esx005

i am a little curious where else culd we mount a turbo???

[blue1]

Originally Posted by enter801

You could rear mount the turbo. I'm going to try to go this route, I have an appt. May 7th with this company - www.ststurbo.com. It will be an awesome choice if I can get it tuned. I encourage everyone to go read up on their kits. Currently I would have to use their universal kit, but should be very easy to install.

Space may be a problem with that one unless you don't mind it scraping on the ground.

[iqbbang]

i sent them an email to sts turbo sometime ago and never got a reply... the funny thing is, when i send an email concerning a chevy silverado kit(for my truck), i get a reply the next day.

[sickyute]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

some of these problem is also about the claim R&D, if they did what they claim, why is the tune is not that good?? some people say, "becoz its just a reflash", for me, its not hondata's fault to have their reflash shitty..., if they provide a good data/research, hondata can make the refalsh as good as it has a stand alone...

example. hondata is also doing a reflash for comptech S/C's.. but do the Comptech owners have a complain about the tuning??...

are u crazy?

[06Fg2]

Originally Posted by sickyute

are u crazy?

Care to elaborate why you think he's crazy? Which point were you getting at? The Comptech one?

[CaliGuy]

Originally Posted by 06Fg2

Care to elaborate why you think he's crazy? Which point were you getting at? The Comptech one?

Word! I thought he had a valid point.

[sickyute]

the tune has nothing to do with AJP ... it's a full hondata issue ...
they can't send info for the tune ...
hondata flew over and tuned the cars themselves to make the tune ...

comparing a comptech tune to AJP is apples and oranges ...

5psi on a SC for 240whp compared to 8psi on a turbo of this size for 350+whp ... is not the same ...

IAT, timing, fuel, cam agles, rev limit etc etc all have to be done ... i don't know if all that was done on the comptech kit but either way it will be a lot more involved when doing the ajp kit as opposed to the comptech kit which is a mild upgrade thus far....

so that is a crazy statement to say that AJP didn't give hondata the information to make the tune like comptech's ....

i can point out a whole host of other things...

u can't even compare the greddy map to the comptech one and they provide comparable numbers ...

if that was the case why don't u just use a greddy map on a comptech car or a comptech map on a ajp car ? then why is it that hondata can make comptech soo perfect and not have a kpro type solution yet? why is it that the haven't released a reflash for greddy kits yet like they did for the rsx-s?

tuning is more involved that yall think it is ... and a SC tune will never = a turbo tune.

so that's why it's a crazy comment to make.

still want more?

[Ep3racer954]

marvie, i bow down to you man... all these comments are very smart and i am learning from them. keep it up bro.

[06Fg2]

Thanks for the explanation Marvie .

[CaliGuy]

I call BS Marvie! So, you're saying that the issues with the AJP kit are due to Hondata? You're saying that Hondata did something wrong to cause the issues that have been mentioned on here? You're saying that Hondata essentially did a bad tune?

Come on man...

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

Originally Posted by sickyute

the tune has nothing to do with AJP ... it's a full hondata issue ...
they can't send info for the tune ...
hondata flew over and tuned the cars themselves to make the tune ...

comparing a comptech tune to AJP is apples and oranges ...

5psi on a SC for 240whp compared to 8psi on a turbo of this size for 350+whp ... is not the same ...

IAT, timing, fuel, cam agles, rev limit etc etc all have to be done ... i don't know if all that was done on the comptech kit but either way it will be a lot more involved when doing the ajp kit as opposed to the comptech kit which is a mild upgrade thus far....

so that is a crazy statement to say that AJP didn't give hondata the information to make the tune like comptech's ....

i can point out a whole host of other things...

u can't even compare the greddy map to the comptech one and they provide comparable numbers ...

if that was the case why don't u just use a greddy map on a comptech car or a comptech map on a ajp car ? then why is it that hondata can make comptech soo perfect and not have a kpro type solution yet? why is it that the haven't released a reflash for greddy kits yet like they did for the rsx-s?

tuning is more involved that yall think it is ... and a SC tune will never = a turbo tune.

so that's why it's a crazy comment to make.

still want more?

oh yeah?? why everybody is running 10's on idle and while your running 12's?? did hondata made an error on the production reflash?? where did hondata get the data for the prduction reflash BTW??

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

oh yeah?? why everybody is running 10's on idle and while your running 12's?? did hondata made an error on the production reflash?? where did hondata get the data for the prduction reflash BTW??

My theory is still that the tune was done on a car that didn't have the production kit installed, it was the prototype. When they changed all the little things it caused all of the problems.

And the running rich at idle thing could be caused by a few things.. quite simply the tune was for 630cc, and ajp is giving out 650. That by itself seems like it would cause the richness as idle. As far as esx005 running 10.5ish at idle he also is only at like 6 lbs of boost, when the tune is clearly for 8.5 lbs of boost. He also hasn't installed his vacuum block yet which will lean it out a little bit. I think that when he gets that installed and ups the boost to where it's supposed to be, he'll be idling around 11.5 - 12 too.

His plugs are fouled too.. and I'm afraid that he's going to change out the plugs before installing the block and upping the boost.. causing more fouled plugs.

That's how I see it, at least. idk. Maybe marvie can chime in on this, or better yet toni.