Do you consider nitrous equipped cars to be N/A

[legendman]

I was just wondering what some of your opinions are on this. I always associated a car as being N/A when it doesn't have any sort of boost (turbo or supercharger) under the hood. When your vehicle is equipped with nitrous, it is technically still operating in the same fashion as before. It's just responding to the increased amounts of oxygen coming through the intake. One could argue that it's really based on the same principles of a cold air intake vs. a short ram.....obviously at an extreme level. So how do you classify a car with nitrous?

Naturally aspirated/All-motor?
Boosted?
A category all it's own?


Just looking for some opinions.....

[fiji06si13]

Originally Posted by legendman

I was just wondering what some of your opinions are on this. I always associated a car as being N/A when it doesn't have any sort of boost (turbo or supercharger) under the hood. When your vehicle is equipped with nitrous, it is technically still operating in the same fashion as before. It's just responding to the increased amounts of oxygen coming through the intake. One could argue that it's really based on the same principles of a cold air intake vs. a short ram.....obviously at an extreme level. So how do you classify a car with nitrous?

Naturally aspirated/All-motor?
Boosted?
A category all it's own?


Just looking for some opinions.....

Sorry about that mis read the post I go with New edge on that one I agree sorry long day at work...

[NewEdgePerf]

Nitrous is considered a power adder and usually grouped with turbos and superchargers. Nitrous can be classified as chemical intercooling. Some racing associations try to equalize competition by limiting and contrasting various power adders for a more diverse field of cars.

While it is true that Nitrous does not add to manifold pressure (boost) it is not usually classified as naturally aspirated.

I hope this helps.

Tony D

[legendman]

Originally Posted by NewEdgePerf

Nitrous is considered a power adder and usually grouped with turbos and superchargers. Nitrous can be classified as chemical intercooling. Some racing associations try to equalize competition by limiting and contrasting various power adders for a more diverse field of cars.

While it is true that Nitrous does not add to manifold pressure (boost) it is not usually classified as naturally aspirated.

I hope this helps.

Tony D

Thanks man, just want to see how other people classify it.

[NewEdgePerf]

Legendman,

No problem!

Tony D

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by legendman

I was just wondering what some of your opinions are on this. I always associated a car as being N/A when it doesn't have any sort of boost (turbo or supercharger) under the hood. When your vehicle is equipped with nitrous, it is technically still operating in the same fashion as before. It's just responding to the increased amounts of oxygen coming through the intake. One could argue that it's really based on the same principles of a cold air intake vs. a short ram.....obviously at an extreme level. So how do you classify a car with nitrous?

Naturally aspirated/All-motor?
Boosted?
A category all it's own?


Just looking for some opinions.....

It is Classified as Forced Induction just like a Turbo or Supercharger. It is just not a full time forced induction. But you still increase cylinderpressure to increase horsepower by injecting pressurised mixture of NO2 which dramatically accellerates the compustion process. Either way you look at it it is Forced induction and adds as much and sometimes more HP than a Turbo or Supercharger even only for an instant

[jameslewis178]

Originally Posted by NewEdgePerf

Legendman,

No problem!

Tony D

glad to see new edge doing honda stuff. my brother has order a ton of stuff from new edge for his rouch focus 2.3 duratec and he just told me tonight that new edge sells si stuff now.

[trials-online]

I am under the impression that N/A stands for naturally aspirated, meaning no burst of air is added to the intake system of an engine. Therefore Nitrous prolly shouldnt be grouped with turbos and superchargers since it just dramatically accellerates the combustion process and not changing the amount of air coming into the intake manifold..... please correct me if i am wrong

[bulletSisedan]

i agree i think no2 is just a "fuel additive" just like av-gas helps increase power no2 is not considered boost because theres not manifold pressure build up.

[reaper702]

but it is not NATURALLY aspirated and requires something extra to be forced in the combustion chambers. so it wouldn't be all motor either

[legendman]

Originally Posted by reaper702

but it is not NATURALLY aspirated and requires something extra to be forced in the combustion chambers. so it wouldn't be all motor either

hence the debate....I think i'll stick with 'chemically enhanced'

[jameslewis178]

i would just say n/a and not tell anyone i had nitrous. im saving for it but im not gonna say when i get it. lol im looking for 12's very soon

[NewEdgePerf]

Originally Posted by jameslewis178

glad to see new edge doing honda stuff. my brother has order a ton of stuff from new edge for his rouch focus 2.3 duratec and he just told me tonight that new edge sells si stuff now.

You must be Stu's brother! I haven't heard from him lately.

I have been adding stuff to the website every week for the 8th gen Civics, I just recieved the Specialty Products rear camber kits yesterday...gotta get them on the site today.

If you need anything, let me know.

Tony D

[skiddy]

Originally Posted by reaper702

but it is not NATURALLY aspirated and requires something extra to be forced in the combustion chambers. so it wouldn't be all motor either

Exactly my standpoint on it. Naturally aspirated = natural induction... n2o is far from that. Although, I would consider a car installed with n2o and not actively using it to be N/A.

I see it as middle-ground between N/A and F/I... you can be one or the other.

[2RotorMotor]

almost all racing associations call it a power adder. Just stick to that. IF you guys go into techinicallities it can actually fit into both.

[bulletSisedan]

Originally Posted by 2RotorMotor

almost all racing associations call it a power adder. Just stick to that. IF you guys go into techinicallities it can actually fit into both.

agreed

[Dessa_8837]

F/I.

ShayneD.

[jameslewis178]

Originally Posted by NewEdgePerf

You must be Stu's brother! I haven't heard from him lately.

I have been adding stuff to the website every week for the 8th gen Civics, I just recieved the Specialty Products rear camber kits yesterday...gotta get them on the site today.

If you need anything, let me know.

Tony D

yea thats my brother. his car is realy fast and as soon as he gets his gears in it that thing is going to be a beast. i went 14.2 with my si and he pulls away from me pretty good

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by skiddy

Exactly my standpoint on it. Naturally aspirated = natural induction... n2o is far from that. Although, I would consider a car installed with n2o and not actively using it to be N/A.

I see it as middle-ground between N/A and F/I... you can be one or the other.

If you have the juice you will use the juice. There is no doubt that if you are spraying or have the capability of doing so you will be considered Forced Induction for sure. It's like giving my cat a mouse and telling him not to play with it It ain't gonna happen.

[jameslewis178]

i would call nitrous a power adder not f/i