what can the k-series handle??? - Page 2

**blueroadster** · 02-02-2007, 03:32 PM

Does the K20Z3 have the exact same rods as the other K20's? I'd like to know if the magic number of 260TQ is the point at which the rods or anything else in the K20Z3 will fail (this is for a turbocharged application).

Is there a suggested upgrade list for the stock internals on the K20Z3 when increasing power (i.e., if upgrading the rods is in fact strongly suggested when you reach 260TQ, what else needs to be changed out if your TQ were to be later bumped up to 275, 300, 325, 350, etc.)?

mcchurchman · 04-17-2007, 10:46 PM

i just got my new 07 civic si . im wondering if u could anwser this ? for me. i bought an apexi super neo air/ fuel ecu controller for my si and now im wondering if its even compatiable with the i-vtec. ive looked aound and from what i get it is , but when i go to check out the wiring specs theres not a thing that shows up for mine. so my ? is can it be done , if not could u suggest maybe a straight DLC hook up air/ feul controller that would be perfect what im tryin to do. thanks mike

bizzybearfigiblue · 04-17-2007, 10:49 PM

well from what i know sickyute had one in his car but i don't think it was ever hooked up properly....

something to do with the wires for the vtc or something like that....

***fiji06si13*** · 04-17-2007, 11:02 PM

nice good info to know subscribed....

Skylinegtr06 · 04-27-2007, 12:00 AM

Hell Yeah Maximum engineering FTW!!!

BlackSnoop · 06-20-2007, 06:31 PM

i recently took apart the k24a1 to build and it has some kind of integrated sleeve as well. we are going to be using it along with a type-r head for a boosted 94 integra. we are planning on keeping the motor essentially stock with the turbo kit and kpro.

NewYorkJon · 06-25-2007, 07:39 PM

It is a good idea to put in a new clutch & build the engine a lil' bit before adding a turbo kit, so your engine can work better with the turbo and not be as weak.

LoverOfCivics · 06-25-2007, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcchurchman

i just got my new 07 civic si . im wondering if u could anwser this ? for me. i bought an apexi super neo air/ fuel ecu controller for my si and now im wondering if its even compatiable with the i-vtec. ive looked aound and from what i get it is , but when i go to check out the wiring specs theres not a thing that shows up for mine. so my ? is can it be done , if not could u suggest maybe a straight DLC hook up air/ feul controller that would be perfect what im tryin to do. thanks mike

Set it Aside, and wait for a kpro equivalent

Si Speed 317 · 07-04-2007, 09:49 AM

This is awesome info. Just remember - "The light that shines twice as bright, shines half as long." =D Subscribed

bangmonsta · 08-06-2007, 12:11 AM

that PDF Link no longer works, can anyone repost a corrected link? I want to learn :)

**Qshooter151** · 08-19-2007, 10:46 PM

the links in the first post are no longer working...

**sickyute** · 08-19-2007, 10:49 PM

can't do anything about that except close this thread ...
i'll look into it though ...

**Qshooter151** · 08-19-2007, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickyute

can't do anything about that except close this thread ...
i'll look into it though ...

thanks...i got i/e/h/img/reflash and i want more...doing my f/i homework

Dwn4nythng · 09-27-2007, 02:33 PM

^ Want more? Put in the pulleys. Want some more? Lighten the flywheel and upgrade the clutch.

K20_Turbo · 12-18-2007, 05:21 PM

K20 can handle a lot. I have seen people run in excess of 500whp before blowing it up.

Fly Rye · 01-09-2008, 08:13 PM

so basically i can just put in a new/larger fuel pump, bigger injectors, fuel rail, connecting rods, pistons, and then can turbo 20-25psi with no trouble? i would obviously throw in a new clutch and fly wheel.

Asif22 · 01-09-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly Rye

so basically i can just put in a new/larger fuel pump, bigger injectors, fuel rail, connecting rods, pistons, and then can turbo 20-25psi with no trouble? i would obviously throw in a new clutch and fly wheel.

yea but you will have a hard time tuning all that

***07CivicMD*** · 01-09-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly Rye

so basically i can just put in a new/larger fuel pump, bigger injectors, fuel rail, connecting rods, pistons, and then can turbo 20-25psi with no trouble? i would obviously throw in a new clutch and fly wheel.

Basically a rebuilt engine for sleeves, boring for the pistons and low compression rods. Baffled oi pan, modified oil pump, upgrade injectors, fuel pump, fuel return line, fuel rail, larger turbo with piping, front mount, tuning.. Hope you have money!!

bizzybearfigiblue · 01-09-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly Rye

so basically i can just put in a new/larger fuel pump, bigger injectors, fuel rail, connecting rods, pistons, and then can turbo 20-25psi with no trouble? i would obviously throw in a new clutch and fly wheel.

i'd say yes to this if u wanted to decrease the life of ur engine by 95%... meaning... these motors can handle a lot of power like that stock but for how long...

AJP made over 600hp+ b4 their motor blew... they were also redlining past 9k...

20-25 psi on these motors will net you way higher than 600hp+ with over 350tq to go along with it... depending on the turbo of course...

i'd say to be really safe these cars 450hp would be the limit to still keep it's reliability... and even that will still cause something to wear out faster...

Street2uned · 01-10-2008, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07CivicMD

Basically a rebuilt engine for sleeves, boring for the pistons and low compression rods. Baffled oi pan, modified oil pump, upgrade injectors, fuel pump, fuel return line, fuel rail, larger turbo with piping, front mount, tuning.. Hope you have money!!

*shakes his head*...wrong. A response like this will lead give people the wrong impression.

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02-02-2007, 03:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
blueroadster Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Does the K20Z3 have the exact same rods as the other K20's? I'd like to know if the magic number of 260TQ is the point at which the rods or anything else in the K20Z3 will fail (this is for a turbocharged application). Is there a suggested upgrade list for the stock internals on the K20Z3 when increasing power (i.e., if upgrading the rods is in fact strongly suggested when you reach 260TQ, what else needs to be changed out if your TQ were to be later bumped up to 275, 300, 325, 350, etc.)?

04-17-2007, 10:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
mcchurchman Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ga Posts: 14 mike iTrader: 0 / 0%	i just got my new 07 civic si . im wondering if u could anwser this ? for me. i bought an apexi super neo air/ fuel ecu controller for my si and now im wondering if its even compatiable with the i-vtec. ive looked aound and from what i get it is , but when i go to check out the wiring specs theres not a thing that shows up for mine. so my ? is can it be done , if not could u suggest maybe a straight DLC hook up air/ feul controller that would be perfect what im tryin to do. thanks mike

04-17-2007, 10:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
bizzybearfigiblue Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 17,344 iTrader: 4 / 100%	well from what i know sickyute had one in his car but i don't think it was ever hooked up properly.... something to do with the wires for the vtc or something like that....

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Skylinegtr06 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chula Vista SD Age: 18 Posts: 5,730 edwyn(male) iTrader: 1 / 100%	Hell Yeah Maximum engineering FTW!!!

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BlackSnoop Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i recently took apart the k24a1 to build and it has some kind of integrated sleeve as well. we are going to be using it along with a type-r head for a boosted 94 integra. we are planning on keeping the motor essentially stock with the turbo kit and kpro.

06-25-2007, 07:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
NewYorkJon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Naples, FL Age: 20 Posts: 388 Jon iTrader: 0 / 0%	It is a good idea to put in a new clutch & build the engine a lil' bit before adding a turbo kit, so your engine can work better with the turbo and not be as weak.

07-04-2007, 09:49 AM	#29 (permalink)
Si Speed 317 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,728 Dan iTrader: 18 / 100%	This is awesome info. Just remember - "The light that shines twice as bright, shines half as long." =D Subscribed

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bangmonsta Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Age: 23 Posts: 348 iTrader: 0 / 0%	that PDF Link no longer works, can anyone repost a corrected link? I want to learn :)

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Dwn4nythng Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: I shoot and ask questions later. Posts: 2,155 NorCal Meet Organizer iTrader: 1 / 100%	^ Want more? Put in the pulleys. Want some more? Lighten the flywheel and upgrade the clutch.

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K20_Turbo Member Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 44 iTrader: 0 / 0%	K20 can handle a lot. I have seen people run in excess of 500whp before blowing it up.

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Fly Rye Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norwalk, CT Age: 21 Posts: 112 Ryan iTrader: 1 / 100%	so basically i can just put in a new/larger fuel pump, bigger injectors, fuel rail, connecting rods, pistons, and then can turbo 20-25psi with no trouble? i would obviously throw in a new clutch and fly wheel.

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