Vtec Controller

dhiltibidal · 09-27-2006, 08:41 AM

Just wondering if any of you have purchased a vtec controller, and if you have did you get any real good gains. I have been thinking about it but I was wanting to get some other opinions before I went out and spent the money.

**atruhondagrl** · 09-27-2006, 08:45 AM

Well, when I dyno'd my car the week before last they recommended one. But, I'm going with forced induction so for now it'd be a waste. For mid range gain though why not get the reflash or is it the vtec kicking in at 4k rpm that you're unsure of?

06Fg2 · 09-27-2006, 10:52 AM

I didn't think it was possible to use a vtec controller on our cars. Is there one available that works? I want to get the apexi neo, but I also want some FI.

**atruhondagrl** · 09-27-2006, 10:56 AM

It was a suprise to me as well when they said that. I wasn't aware of our ability to use them but I just nodded my head. When he was done I just said, "I've already spoken to Matt about it. You guys will be intalling the turbo on my car come March." Then I grinned like a mad woman. He just said," Well, screw the controller then. Turbo? On a new SI? This is gonna be fun."

. I love my F-ing car!

stevenshizzle · 09-27-2006, 11:15 AM

Plug-n-play VTEC controllers are not as plug-n-play as they seem. Merely changing the VTEC engagement point does not result in more horsepower simply because fuel and (sometimes) timing must be changed accordingly in order to achieve the desired results.

jimmyn213 · 09-27-2006, 11:34 AM

question: get turbo then reflash? or it doesnt matter and just get reflash now til i come up wit the funds to get turbo?

stevenshizzle · 09-27-2006, 01:30 PM

That's a good question jimmy. If you intend on going Turbo, then do not get a reflash unless you are sure that it is (1) compatable with a tubocharger upgrade -or- (2) there will be a reflash in the future that supports tubocharging in which case you would get it at the same time or change flashes -or- (3) there will be a fully tunable Hondata program in the future -or- (4) love the reflash now and have it flashed back to the factory flash upon installation of the turbocharger.

Hope this helps.

jimmyn213 · 09-27-2006, 04:19 PM

thanks alot. At first i was goin to get reflash, then this performance shop try to convince me to get a vtec controller. I was just confused. Im goin to ship my ecu on monday, hopefully i get it back on wednesday. thanks again

F.I.A.T · 10-02-2006, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyn213

thanks alot. At first i was goin to get reflash, then this performance shop try to convince me to get a vtec controller. I was just confused. Im goin to ship my ecu on monday, hopefully i get it back on wednesday. thanks again

first off a vtec controller will not work on its own with the newer ecm's without an specific interface which allows access to the open loop side of the ecm.

second if you need a reflash contact at 954-636-7992 official hondata dealers

O6 Si · 10-02-2006, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I.A.T

first off a vtec controller will not work on its own with the newer ecm's without an specific interface which allows access to the open loop side of the ecm.

second if you need a reflash contact at 954-636-7992 official hondata dealers

thats all jap :)

larryd · 10-02-2006, 11:07 PM

Doesn't that mean though that it will work under wide open throttle?

F.I.A.T · 10-02-2006, 11:41 PM

a WOT tune is best suited for power while a partial throttle is best for drivability/economy

**CaliGuy** · 10-02-2006, 11:43 PM

I have an apexi vtec controller if ya wanna buy it...cheap...im never gonna use it (had it for my prior ride and never installed it)

subaruwrx163 · 03-31-2007, 02:10 PM

so there is no vtec controller that will wrk on the i-vtec?

honda06si · 03-31-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subaruwrx163

so there is no vtec controller that will wrk on the i-vtec?

damn this is pretty old...but yes theres not one that will work

kenchan · 03-31-2007, 08:23 PM

vtec controllers are merely interior decorations imho...

i had one on my prelude long time ago, but just went nitrous.

PR_S14 · 04-01-2007, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honda06si

damn this is pretty old...but yes theres not one that will work

Are you sure about that?

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/pr...con_honda.html

honda06si · 04-01-2007, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_S14

Are you sure about that?

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/pr...con_honda.html

umm yes actually...there are some that will work with i-vtec.....but not one that will work with the k20z3....

PR_S14 · 04-01-2007, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subaruwrx163
so there is no vtec controller that will wrk on the i-vtec?

damn this is pretty old...but yes theres not one that will work

Ok, just wanted to let you know that you answered his question incorrectly

honda06si · 04-01-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_S14

Ok, just wanted to let you know that you answered his question incorrectly

ok???

anyways i assumed he had an si...but will somone else look at his profile:

Ride:
2006 Honda CIvic SI
Engine type and displacement:
K20A3 2.0L
Induction:
Nitrous
Tranny type:
Automatic
Tires:
Street Radials
Race weight:
2850
Horsepower:
210.0

theres like 5 things wrong with that picture^

09-27-2006, 08:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
dhiltibidal Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Vtec Controller Just wondering if any of you have purchased a vtec controller, and if you have did you get any real good gains. I have been thinking about it but I was wanting to get some other opinions before I went out and spent the money.

09-27-2006, 08:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
atruhondagrl Why...so...serious? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 23,353 iTrader: 22 / 100%	Well, when I dyno'd my car the week before last they recommended one. But, I'm going with forced induction so for now it'd be a waste. For mid range gain though why not get the reflash or is it the vtec kicking in at 4k rpm that you're unsure of? __________________ "I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer. "

09-27-2006, 10:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
atruhondagrl Why...so...serious? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 23,353 iTrader: 22 / 100%	It was a suprise to me as well when they said that. I wasn't aware of our ability to use them but I just nodded my head. When he was done I just said, "I've already spoken to Matt about it. You guys will be intalling the turbo on my car come March." Then I grinned like a mad woman. He just said," Well, screw the controller then. Turbo? On a new SI? This is gonna be fun." . I love my F-ing car! __________________ "I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer. "

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CaliGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoCal Age: 30 Posts: 10,523 J. M. back by popular demand! iTrader: 4 / 100%	I have an apexi vtec controller if ya wanna buy it...cheap...im never gonna use it (had it for my prior ride and never installed it) __________________ Visit my city! Free vagin for every resident (in direct contrast to the other cities that only provide free Fleshlites!) http://eat-mykhram.myminicity.com/ Last edited by CaliGuy; 10-02-2006 at 11:53 PM.

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09-27-2006, 10:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
06Fg2 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Chester, PA Age: 20 Posts: 2,774 FG Squad Member #15 iTrader: 22 / 96%	I didn't think it was possible to use a vtec controller on our cars. Is there one available that works? I want to get the apexi neo, but I also want some FI.

09-27-2006, 11:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
stevenshizzle Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belleville, IL Age: 23 Posts: 796 Steven iTrader: 0 / 0%	Plug-n-play VTEC controllers are not as plug-n-play as they seem. Merely changing the VTEC engagement point does not result in more horsepower simply because fuel and (sometimes) timing must be changed accordingly in order to achieve the desired results.

09-27-2006, 11:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
jimmyn213 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 / 0%	question: get turbo then reflash? or it doesnt matter and just get reflash now til i come up wit the funds to get turbo?

09-27-2006, 01:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
stevenshizzle Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belleville, IL Age: 23 Posts: 796 Steven iTrader: 0 / 0%	That's a good question jimmy. If you intend on going Turbo, then do not get a reflash unless you are sure that it is (1) compatable with a tubocharger upgrade -or- (2) there will be a reflash in the future that supports tubocharging in which case you would get it at the same time or change flashes -or- (3) there will be a fully tunable Hondata program in the future -or- (4) love the reflash now and have it flashed back to the factory flash upon installation of the turbocharger. Hope this helps.

09-27-2006, 04:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
jimmyn213 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 / 0%	thanks alot. At first i was goin to get reflash, then this performance shop try to convince me to get a vtec controller. I was just confused. Im goin to ship my ecu on monday, hopefully i get it back on wednesday. thanks again

10-02-2006, 11:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
larryd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,814 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Doesn't that mean though that it will work under wide open throttle?

10-02-2006, 11:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
F.I.A.T Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 495 iTrader: 0 / 0%	a WOT tune is best suited for power while a partial throttle is best for drivability/economy

03-31-2007, 02:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
subaruwrx163 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 / 0%	so there is no vtec controller that will wrk on the i-vtec?

03-31-2007, 08:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
kenchan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,130 iTrader: 1 / 100%	vtec controllers are merely interior decorations imho... i had one on my prelude long time ago, but just went nitrous.

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