Does Nitrous ruin your engine?

[Phresh]

From what I understand nitrous can be dangerous if used improperly. But even when used properly can it damage or wear out your engine parts excessively and would there be a way to nitrous-protect your engine by upgrading to stronger metal parts. Thanks.

[Wakko]

Any modification to your engine will reduce it´s life. How much it´ll reduce, it´s up to you....the way you drive, how you take care of your car and so...

Forjed parts (pistons, rods and etc) will make your engine stronger, that´s for shure....but if you want to use 50, 60, even 70hp of nitrous, I think it´s a waste of money to buy these parts. Always use good fuel (92+ oct), a purge valvule is something to consider, with that you´ll always inject N2O like it should be (it´s liquid inside the bottle, it must keep this propertie until injected), never use it below 3000rpm´s, inject it only at WOT....

I used 50hp at my old D16Y8 engine for about 2 years, never had any problem...and I used it A LOT....hehehehe....

Cheers

[Torredo]

i wouldnt install NOS on mine for 2 reasons:

1. In Canada their way of combating street racing
is by making sure whom ever wants nitrous is to have
a doctors note. This way vendors cannot have access
to it what-so-ever in turn making the kid thinking of
racing not having access to it.

2. Ill be honest here...I dont want it wrecking my engine
and afterall....Bottles are for babies!!

lmao!

[twistedframe]

If you run a small shot (under 100) you should be fine. If you have an Si most of your interna;s are forged anyway so you have a great engine to start tuning. As it was stated you have to be careful. Only run it at WOT, use good gas, and a purge valve is a good idea as is a bottle warmed to keep the pressure consistent. Even if you run it a lot you shoudl be fine if you take a few precautions. also a way to get around the Street racing this is keep your bottle unhooked until you are sure you are going to use it. In most staes it is not illegal to have nitrous in your car, it is on;y illegal to have it hooked up while driving on public streets. Of course if you plan on using this on the street and not the track you are always going to run the risk of getting busted by the cops. Good luck and I hope this helps you.

[BLU BY U]

double post.

[BLU BY U]

From what I understand nitrous can be dangerous if used improperly

you answered your own question. keyword - improperly.

you can damage a supercharged,turboed, or naturally asp. engine if you use it improperly.

[Cruzz21]

Originally Posted by twistedframe

If you run a small shot (under 100) you should be fine. If you have an Si most of your interna;s are forged anyway so you have a great engine to start tuning.

Does the 06 SI have forged internals?

[vicSi]

this nitrous thing makes my head hurt..... please someone explian to me cus im stupid... what would i need to do to my car (SI) in order to put nitrous and run without worries that something might get f*** up my engine?

[6ft5inAllMan]

Originally Posted by Cruzz21

Does the 06 SI have forged internals?

Yeah, I want to know also, if it is, I just might FI it after my waranty goes splat.

[CaliGuy]

Originally Posted by Cruzz21

Does the 06 SI have forged internals?

I am curious about this as well. I would think not as i recall seeing forged internals for sale for the k20z1 (RSX-S)...and our engines are very close to that...

[BLU BY U]

yes the 06 si has forged internals....look at the post where the engine is torn down. or look for 06 si engine specs on google

[vicSi]

what do you guys mean by forged internals?

[tegrady]

Originally Posted by vicSi

what do you guys mean by forged internals?

The internal parts of the motor (pistons, crank shaft, connecting rods, etc.) are made of forged metal instead of cast. Casting is pouring molten material into a mold, forging is hammering heated metal into the proper shape. Forged parts are cut from a block of forged metal and are quite a bit stronger than cast parts.

[jc21]

Originally Posted by vicSi

this nitrous thing makes my head hurt..... please someone explian to me cus im stupid... what would i need to do to my car (SI) in order to put nitrous and run without worries that something might get f*** up my engine?

nitrous oxide or N2O is injected into the air intake to increase power. When N2O reaches a certain temperature, it breaks down and releases extra oxygen. Secondly, when the liquid in the tank vaporizes, it comes out extremely cold. The combination of these two effects allows you to cram a lot more oxygen into your cylinders. This extra oxygen creates additional power by allowing more fuel to be burned.

like said above, there isn't really way to make your car more nitrous ready. Like everyone said above if you shoot it at WOT (wide open throttle) and use it sparingly you should be fine. The trouble is, and I can tell you this from personal experiance, is that no matter how safe and how careful you think you will be. As soon as you get your first taste of n20, you'll find yourself using it quite a bit more often then you should.

[2RotorMotor]

X2.. I agree with you.. I use that shit like crazy...

And whats all this talk about purging keeping the properties ideal for bottle? Thats spreading miss information..

Purging solenoid does exactly that, it purges the line. That way you have no air gaps in the line and make sure you get full n2o when you actually need it...

But as I've found out, n2o is only fun for a while.. If you keep the button pressed, the temp inside the tank drops, therefore the pressure also drops, and you aren't getting the same hp.. So consistent runs are almost impossible unless you have a bottle heater or a constantly filled tank..

[sick_civic]

ive tryed n20 on another car,its good....turns your car into a rocket for sure..its uncompairable to a turbo...Nitrous lowers your time by 2 seconds on the track...so whatever ur cars running it'll atleast cut it down by two and it can push you back into the seat......for any n20 noob,you should start with the lowest jet then work it up till you can handle it & make sure your engine can handle it.....so u gotta ask your installer whats the highest jet you could run on the engine and dont try to pass it,thats how your mistake happens and the engine blown.....also u gotta keep the oil clean while running it then make sure its high performance oil that can handle high heat.....remember it will turn ur car into a rocket..so hold on & learn the gift of driving a Nitrous powered car ...thats switching gears 1st-5th in afew seconds.....Hahah...dont smoke the clutch!.....but if the stock one cant handle it too long..thats where the performance clutch kicks in...you gotta break-in those..400 miles brand new ,then let her Rip & it'll out live the stock clutch big time.......i cant wait till i get some n2o in my car...you'll just see the digital speed go "10" "20" "30" "40 "50" "60" ect Miles per hour......too bad it doesnt catch ur speed smoothly..oh well..:)

[imtim25]

Originally Posted by Torredo

2. Ill be honest here...I dont want it wrecking my engine
and afterall....Bottles are for babies!!

lmao!

haha

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by Cruzz21

Does the 06 SI have forged internals?

I doubt it, heck it doesn't even come with Fog lights why would they use forged internals in the Si? They are probably those Powder type Polymorphic kinda pistons that everyone is using these days. They are coated and have some benefits especially during cold starts when the engine is starved of oil,
however they don't hold up well under Boost and Nitrous can easily eat a hole right into the top of the piston.
If you go Nitrous your warranty is toast and you could ruin a perfectly great car. The R18 engine is more suited for Nitrous since it's a lot lower compression and it should work okay if you keep it to about 55 shot.

I was thinking Nitrous but with over 11.5 to 1 compression I don't know.

[2RotorMotor]

Originally Posted by Tom1222

I doubt it, heck it doesn't even come with Fog lights why would they use forged internals in the Si? They are probably those Powder type Polymorphic kinda pistons that everyone is using these days. They are coated and have some benefits especially during cold starts when the engine is starved of oil,
however they don't hold up well under Boost and Nitrous can easily eat a hole right into the top of the piston.
If you go Nitrous your warranty is toast and you could ruin a perfectly great car. The R18 engine is more suited for Nitrous since it's a lot lower compression and it should work okay if you keep it to about 55 shot.

I was thinking Nitrous but with over 11.5 to 1 compression I don't know.

I want to know how nitrous can eat a hole in a piston... N2o is nothing more than oxygen and nitrogen.. There is nothing in there that can "EAT" a hole into a piston... N2o drops cylinder temps by alot and also intake temps.. Damage that can be cause is by improperly setting up your system... nitrous gives instant tq and it creates a shock from that instant power that can overwhelm stock engine parts.. But thats not till you ge to 150+... Im runing 75shot and its doing really good..

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by 2RotorMotor

I want to know how nitrous can eat a hole in a piston... N2o is nothing more than oxygen and nitrogen.. There is nothing in there that can "EAT" a hole into a piston... N2o drops cylinder temps by alot and also intake temps.. Damage that can be cause is by improperly setting up your system... nitrous gives instant tq and it creates a shock from that instant power that can overwhelm stock engine parts.. But thats not till you ge to 150+... Im runing 75shot and its doing really good..

True, Nitrous Oxide is not a Fuel at all. It simply introduces a way of adding more Oxygen in order to allow more fuel to be burned at a higher rate.
The Engergy comes from the fuel not the Nitrous. This engergy accellerated by the Nitrous procudes tremendous amount of addtional heat or force to move those cylinders up and down more quickly. If the fuel mixture and the timing are sufficiently set and retarded at the time of this delivery then there is nothing to worry about but if the engine's timing is too high or there is not enough fuel delivered to the pistons then you have a "Lean" condition which causes detonation which is like hitting your cylinders with a sledghammer. Over time this will cause broken rods or even holes burned into the top of the cylinders. Especially if you don't have forged internals.
Now with a mild set up of 55 or 65 shot of Nitrous this is not as common as with a 100 + shot of Nitrous on a car that isn't really set up for Nitrous.

Check out this webpage. It has some Great info and tips about using Nitrous Oxide. Very imformative:
http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/re.../n2otheory.htm