Does Nitrous ruin your engine?

[rico1990]

i had a question. i have a Greddy turbo kit and a engine rebuild(9:1 piston, stronger rods and sleeves) on my si. i wanted to see if i could use nitrous. i got a kit from my buddy for 350. its a Zex wet shoot kit with 2 bottles and the bottler warmer. will be okay to spray with my turbo kit, and can i use the AEM F/IC system?

[chugiboi]

maybe this might help with your question.

Alright guys... I blew my motor...

[rico1990]

thanks

[mad monkey]

Originally Posted by chugiboi

maybe this might help with your question.

Alright guys... I blew my motor...

LOL.....

Rico, stop bumping old threads with almost the same question! Just make a thread that bases all your questions in general and then get deeper and deeper into your questions as people reply and conversate in your thread. It's a TON more easier than trying to keep track of all these threads you're posting up. So go bump the thread you made with a question that you're wondering... good luck!

[rico1990]

i have but nobody talk about a rebuild engine with a turbo and nitrouse. but i will do that

[BottleFed]

Originally Posted by Tom1222

Another Limitation with Nitrous is the bottle. A 10 lbs bottle will last about 30 seconds or less. A turbo or Supercharger last forever.

you couldnt be more wrong....please dont post things about nitrous you are not sure of


A 10LB nitrous bottle can last 10+ runs with a good bottle heater you just need to make sure u have good pressure in the bottle around 900 psi at the least

Originally Posted by FckThatSht

Nitrous is for bitches, get a turbo or supercharger

thats funny you say that.....
1. how much does the average turbo or supercharger setup cost
$3000 to $4500 lets say plus install and tunning

2. your car is goin to have alot of down time with install tuning and the basic problems this type of modding includes so its not that much of a daily driver anymore when a nitrous setup can go in just about any grocery getter

3. im goin to spend around $1000 on a full kit with everything i need and i really dont need to tune

4. i can turn it on anytime i want when you have to drive with it everyday

5. in a average race with the basic supercharger setup vs a 75 shot the one with nitrous will prob win and a out the box turbo kit you will prob be really close race




so after all that nitrous is really your best bang for your buck in a $/HP ratio
most people with nitrous just dont use it right and then giving nitrous a bad name

so in my book +1 for N2O

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by BottleFed

you couldnt be more wrong....please dont post things about nitrous you are not sure of


A 10LB nitrous bottle can last 10+ runs with a good bottle heater you just need to make sure u have good pressure in the bottle around 900 psi at the least



thats funny you say that.....
1. how much does the average turbo or supercharger setup cost
$3000 to $4500 lets say plus install and tunning

2. your car is goin to have alot of down time with problems and not having your car as a daily driver

3. im goin to spend around $1000 on a full kit with everything i need and i really dont need to tune

4. i can turn it on anytime i want when you have to drive with it everyday

5. in a average race with the basic supercharger setup vs a 75 shot the one with nitrous will prob win and a out the box turbo kit you will prob be really close race




so after all that nitrous is really your best bang for your buck in a $/HP ratio
most people with nitrous just dont use it right and then giving nitrous a bad name

so in my book +1 for N2O

Yes, yes and yes. Well said. I cannot believe the urban myths surrounding nitrous. If one has the proper safeguards, it is a great way to enhance performance.

[NitrousG35]

In my experience with Nitrous Oxide, I have found that having items I would call, "safeguards", greatly increase the reliability of the system.

First of all, I use a bottle warmer to maintain pressure. As others have noted, the pressure can drop when the bottle gets cooler.

Next, I use a full throttle switch which activates the nitrous at a pre-set rpm. My G is set up for 3,000 rpm. Thus, the nitrous only kicks in when the motor is in the fat part of its torque and horsepower curve. Traction also is greatly enhanced by not having the nitrous kick in immediately.

Then, I have a window switch which controls the phase in and out of the nitrous. This can be tailored to suit the needs of a particular car. On my G, it phases out at 6500 rpm. On an Si, I would probably have it go to around 7500 or so.

Lastly, I have a remote bottle switch to activate the nitrous inside my car. This is handy for those moments you need to "pass" someone and it certainly is best for a street setup. In addition, I run an NHRA downtube to evacuate any pressure buildup on a hot day.

Something else to consider is the fact that both the G35 and the Si run best with a wet system. On the G35, the pressure regulator is in the gas tank, so a wet system is the best to ensure proper fuel delivery. A wet system maintains a sufficient fuel supply to match the incoming nitrous delivery.

I tend to be conservative and only run a 75 shot. It seems that both the G35 and K20z3 motors are capable of a 100 shot and I know many people who do so. Me, erring on the side of caution, keep it at 75, but I would imagine that a 100 shot would be insane.

[FG2cIvIc]

well what about turbos, i heard those ruin your engine also

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by FG2cIvIc

well what about turbos, i heard those ruin your engine also

You are right. They can blow a motor to smithereens. I feel that a normal nitrous shot and an acceptable turbo boost are both reliable on the stock internals. People generally get in trouble when they run above a 100 shot of nitrous and over 8 pounds of boost with a stock motor. Keeping things conservative should ensure many trouble free miles with an Si.

[Gonzo]

I tink dere alotta confushion bout nawz out dere! leme set duh rekord str8!

amaturs dunt use nitruz oxide! if i see duh wai u drive n u got a hevy foot, u'll blo urself 2 peices!!!11

be safe, duble clutch!! uddahwize i rip apart ur blok n replace da pistawn rings u jus fried!!!


(2 u guys sayin 75 shawt ok, yeh but not 100, u'll be lucki 2 not blow duh welds on duh intake, heloo!?!?1/1/)

[FG2cIvIc]

but i want a turbo so bad

[homeboyv]

def...by how much depends on u

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by Gonzo

I tink dere alotta confushion bout nawz out dere! leme set duh rekord str8!

amaturs dunt use nitruz oxide! if i see duh wai u drive n u got a hevy foot, u'll blo urself 2 peices!!!11

be safe, duble clutch!! uddahwize i rip apart ur blok n replace da pistawn rings u jus fried!!!


(2 u guys sayin 75 shawt ok, yeh but not 100, u'll be lucki 2 not blow duh welds on duh intake, heloo!?!?1/1/)

I tink U ben lizening to 2 many urban legends. Blow duh welds on duh intake? Not!

[Blue JDM Coupe1016]

i know this problay would have been touched in another thread but i have a question if i wanted to spray my r18 what parts would i need i.e intake, header, exhaust, kit? also would it run better with some sort of tuning.

[mad monkey]

IMO, I side with nitrous AND turbo. People get too one-sided sometimes. With having both(nitrous on my civic and a 93 twinturbo Rx7), nitrous is definitely the best bang for the buck $/hp wise. But you can't seriously go out there saying turbo is crap and putting it down because of money. That's like the turbo guys trashing the N/A guys because turbo is cheaper. TO EACH HIS OWN... you can spend as much as one does on a N/A setup on turbo or even more depending on your power level. Yeah, nitrous is cheap but there's alot of people out there that are too lazy to go refill their bottle once or twice a week. Also, if you sprayed the RIGHT way... you would go out and get tuned along with having all the proper safety devices. So it's JUST like having a turbo or being N/A. You need to get tuned, you need to have safety monitors and devices, and you spend money plain and simple. If you notice there's not alot of race shops out there that have a motor that's "not that built or tuned" spraying nitrous. The amount of import shops out there that have their race cars set for nitrous vs. turbo is like 1:5. I wonder why? Preference plain and simple. Every side has a pro and con to it so I really see no reason to start putting down the other. Maybe for certain race applications set ups, yeah because of historical facts. But like I said... to each his own.

Sorry about the rant... I don't know if it's just me or has there been alot of "turbo and nitrous" threads in the past couple months. And in majority of them it ends up turning into a debate whether or not nitrous sucks. I guess you can just say that I'm the ghandi of hp?

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

I tink U ben lizening to 2 many urban legends. Blow duh welds on duh intake? Not!

wuteva azz! I liv mah life a, um, howeva long a drag strip iz, yeh dat, i live 1 of doze at a tyme!! pluz i got chickz wit swordz n rocket decalz on mah cah!!!!

u muz be 1 of doze guyz who tink its abowt how u stand by yet car, iz abowt how u race yo cah!!! u betta lern dat!

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by Gonzo

wuteva azz! I liv mah life a, um, howeva long a drag strip iz, yeh dat, i live 1 of doze at a tyme!! pluz i got chickz wit swordz n rocket decalz on mah cah!!!!

u muz be 1 of doze guyz who tink its abowt how u stand by yet car, iz abowt how u race yo cah!!! u betta lern dat!

Somewhere, there is some meaning here, but I am darned if I can figure it out. Gonz, u dah man. Fast and Furious anyone?

[rcracin13]

Originally Posted by Gonzo

wuteva azz! I liv mah life a, um, howeva long a drag strip iz, yeh dat, i live 1 of doze at a tyme!! pluz i got chickz wit swordz n rocket decalz on mah cah!!!!

u muz be 1 of doze guyz who tink its abowt how u stand by yet car, iz abowt how u race yo cah!!! u betta lern dat!

how long does it take you to write this? i had to read it a few times before i could understand it and i couldnt write like that even if i tried. haha.

[slow4drsi]

Originally Posted by twistedframe

If you run a small shot (under 100) you should be fine. If you have an Si most of your interna;s are forged anyway so you have a great engine to start tuning. As it was stated you have to be careful. Only run it at WOT, use good gas, and a purge valve is a good idea as is a bottle warmed to keep the pressure consistent. Even if you run it a lot you shoudl be fine if you take a few precautions. also a way to get around the Street racing this is keep your bottle unhooked until you are sure you are going to use it. In most staes it is not illegal to have nitrous in your car, it is on;y illegal to have it hooked up while driving on public streets. Of course if you plan on using this on the street and not the track you are always going to run the risk of getting busted by the cops. Good luck and I hope this helps you.

i'm just curious i don't our si have forged pistons?