Redshift/KONI Shock and Spring Sale!!!

[Excelerate]

This is an 8th Civic Special Pricing Event for the Redshift/KONI suspension packages which include KONI Reds, KONI Yellows, or either with Eibach springs or a custom coilover spring setup for the 06+ Honda Civic (All models).

The KONI Special (red) has been engineered to maximize the ride comfort with good handling performance for each vehicle application.

The KONI Sport (yellow) typically starts at a higher initial valving baseline to give a sportier feel and work on vehicles with higher performance parts.

Here are some pics of the products.

Stock strut housing, modified by RedShift to house the Koni Sport Insert!















Shock Dynos:





The following payment terms are accepted: Bank or Teller Check, Money Order, sent to:

Excelerate LLC
998 West Main St
Branford, CT 06405

You may also send payment to Excelerate@sbcglobal.net via Paypal. Or you can call in your CC info at 203-483-6100.

Shipping times will depend upon your location. Prices based on shipping to 48 continental states in the U.S.

NOTE: All RedShift/Koni shock/suspension packages INCLUDE fabrication on front strut housings, including drilling/cutting metal, grinding, and threading.

The prices will run as follows:

- RedShift/Koni Special D (Red) Shock Package - $715 shipped
- RedShift/Koni Sport (Yellow) Shock Package - $830 shipped
- RedShift/Koni Special D (Red) with Eibach Pro Kit (1.0/1.2" Drop) - $935 shipped
- RedShift/Koni Sport (Yellow) with Eibach Pro Kit (1.0/1.2" Drop) - $1065 shipped
- RedShift/Koni Special D (Red) with Eibach Sportlines (1.4/1.4" Drop) - $935 shipped
- RedShift/Koni Sport (Yellow) with Eibach Sportlines (1.4/1.4" Drop) - $1065 shipped
- RedShift/Koni Sport (Yellow) ADJUSTABLE HEIGHT Spring Suspension Package (0-3" Drop, 400/500 Standard, Custom Rates Available) - $1455 shipped
- RedShift/Koni SINGLE ADJUSTABLE RACE Shocks, ADJUSTABLE HEIGHT Spring Suspension Package (0-3" Drop, 500/900 Standard, Custom Rates Available) - $1950 shipped
- RedShift/Koni DOUBLE ADJUSTABLE RACE Shocks, ADJUSTABLE HEIGHT Spring Suspension Package (0-3" Drop, 500/900 Standard, Custom Rates Available) - $2385 shipped
- Front Strut Core Charge - $180 - can be refunded if your stock Si housings are returned.


AIM Screen Name: Excelerate04
E-mail: Excelerate@sbcglobal.net
or PM me.

RETURN POLICY
- ALL RETURNED AND/OR CANCELLED ORDERS ARE SUBJECT TO A 25% RE-STOCKING FEE PLUS ALL SHIPPING CHARGES (Includes original and return S&H fees).
- ALL AUTHORIZED RETURN MERCHANDISE MUST BE NEW, UNUSED, AND IN ITS ORIGINAL PA CKAGING. ALL DOCUMENTATION, WARRANTY CARDS, INSTRUCTIONS, AND HARDWARE MUST ALSO BE RETURNED.
- ITEMS MAY BE RETURNED WITHIN 15 CALENDAR DAYS FROM THE RECEIPT OF MERCHANDISE.
- SPECIAL ORDERS ARE NOT RETURNABLE.
- ALL DEPOSITS ARE NON-REFUNDABLE.

EXCELERATE LLC
998 West Main St
Branford, CT 06405
(P) 203-483-6100 (F) 203-483-6101
Excelerate Performance
Joshua Lockwood
Owner

[meeks]

are these still the price?

[Excelerate]

Originally Posted by meeks

are these still the price?

Yes.

[gcfernandez]

Prices still good?

[toda_power]

pm'ed u

[Excelerate]

New pics of the coilovers are up!!

[boosted:croc]

is the core charge included in the shipped price?

[Excelerate]

Originally Posted by boosted:croc

is the core charge included in the shipped price?

- Front Strut Core Charge - $180 - can be refunded if your stock Si housings are returned.

No it is a separate charge.

[cstyles]

How much fab work is required for these units to be installed on a FG2 (specifically the non-adjustable red's and yellows in the $800-900 range)?

Is it something that a novice could undertake, or should it be left to a shop or someone with more advanced knowledge of suspension systems?

I have never installed (or even fooled around with) any suspension, ever, but I was planning on doing the suspension on my '09 myself to start learning. Any input is much appreciated!

[Excelerate]

Originally Posted by cstyles

How much fab work is required for these units to be installed on a FG2 (specifically the non-adjustable red's and yellows in the $800-900 range)?

Is it something that a novice could undertake, or should it be left to a shop or someone with more advanced knowledge of suspension systems?

I have never installed (or even fooled around with) any suspension, ever, but I was planning on doing the suspension on my '09 myself to start learning. Any input is much appreciated!

It's not a huge job but can be difficult if you don't know what you're doing. Here is an example of what needs to be done on the front:

http://www.koni-na.com/pdf/boltstrut.pdf

[Efin' Kyle]

NICE!!!!!!!!!!! i <3 Koni

[dtexan]

do you sell just the rear struts?

[Xtreme Thunder]

I have a few questions:

Now that KONI has an 8th Civic application specific product are they going to provide that with the kits when they are available?

Can the actual vehicle specific inserts be used with the height adjustable application that Redshift provides? Will the new Yellows work with all Redshift specific parts?

Can the kit be ordered without springs? If so what amount would be deducted from the price?

If all the above is true, is Redshift going to provide services of installing the inserts only if desired?

What is the current turn-a-round time on fabrication?

[Xtreme Thunder]

I sent those questions, plus more, via email to Chris @ Redshift. I will post the response to my questions incase anyone else had the same questions.

[Excelerate]

Originally Posted by Xtreme Thunder

I sent those questions, plus more, via email to Chris @ Redshift. I will post the response to my questions incase anyone else had the same questions.

Haha.. Ok good. I was just going to do the same thing.

[Xtreme Thunder]

Sent [E-Mail 1] to Chris @ Redshift 01-21-2009

Hi Chris,

I have been looking into your suspension set-up as of recent I have some questions and was wondering if you had a few moments to answer them for me.

Now that KONI has an 8th Civic application specific product are you going to provide that with the kits when they are available? Pretty much it would only be a fabrication of the fronts being the rear will be KONI shock plug and play, correct? The hardware for the rear if one would go height adjustable would just be included in the kit I assume?

Can the new actual vehicle specific inserts be used with the height adjustable application that Redshift provides? Will the new KONIs work with all current Redshift specific parts? In addition to the height adjustable version, using the new KONIs will allow for the use of the top mount without modification, hence would I be correct in saying that the washer in the upper mount will no longer need to be drilled out?

Can the kit be ordered without springs? If so, what amount would be deducted from the price as I want to use Swift Metric Coilover Springs if I go the height adjustable route. I read that the set-up is able to accept 6" long springs in the front, correct? What about the rear? What I.D. springs should be used? Should anything longer be avoided? Does the height adjustable version offer 0-3" drop? I want to keep the car about 1.0-1.25" below stock height and wondering if that can be achieved or if max height is, for example, 1.5" below stock?

If all the above is true, is Redshift still going to provide services of installing only the 8th Civic application inserts if desired?

What would be the approximate turn-a-round on the services you provide?

Sorry for the bundle of questions. If you could shoot me back an email that would be wonderful.

Regards,

Joe

Response to [E-Mail 1] from Chris @ Redshift 01-22-2009

Hi Joe,

Thanks for your email. We are happy to work with you to provide what you need. My understanding is that the off-the-shelf Konis are not available yet, and it's debateable how soon they will be available. We've tooled up lots of our version because our sources inside Koni have lead us to believe it may be awhile. I don't know for sure though.

We use 2.5" ID Springs. We can take $42 per spring cost out of the price of any coilover setup where you opt out of the springs. The coilover setup we use would surely work with their shock, but the insert is much better than the bolt in RSX insert because of stroke length (the RSX bottoms easily.... koni is aware but the available space limits them) and the Civic has the same problem, which is why they have been wanting to get a full front strut housing stamping instead of offering the insert style like the RSX. I know for a fact that Koni uses the same insert we use for special order customers that don't want the limitations of the standard RSX insert. I am confident that out front shock is much better than the RSX front shock in how it works, especially on a lowered car. Koni has told me one of the highest volume service issues is a perceived blown seal on the top of an RSX front insert, and I know that to be true because that's what I have on my RSX. I will use our new inserts on my car when I get time to do so.... just been too busy. Also, drilling out the front washer is not a big deal at all......granted it's better not to have to do that, but it's a small price to pay for a better result.

The rear shocks we use are from the Eclipse and we will definitely go to the standard Koni rear shocks when they are available. Our setup actually works really well now. The difference is that the rear shocks we use have a little less bump valving than Koni is expecting to use (something like 15% less), and while that affects a setup on stock springs, once you start increasing the rear spring rates with aftermarket springs (and especially coilovers), the lesser rear shock bump valving actually makes it a better overall ride for the street without loose much performance at all.

We use a 6" front spring, yes..... better than the 5" spring GC uses.... again it's a bottoming issue. And you can lower the overall setup 3", but you'll need to be sure you run the right size spring in back..... in the 6" range as well....depending on rate.

And we are not doing installs anymore. We are in the process of halting retail service work and moving to a more focused product development strategy. The directions for the kit are straight forward enough that I don't think any reasonable mechanic will have an issue with installation. If they can install the stock suspension, then they can do ours because it's stock config with only a few minor exceptions.

I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks!
Chris

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Sent [E-Mail 2] to Chris @ Redshift 01-22-2009

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your response, I have more questions…

I believe "half" of the OTS Konis, either the front or rear, is said to have been ready, they seem to have not gotten the other "half". It is also good to hear the height adjustable system uses 2.5 ID springs and that the price can be adjusted to opt out of springs if desired.

Do you know the stroke length of your set-up vs. the OTS Konis for 06-09 Civic application? Or is that information unknown due to obvious reasons of the lack of availability of the OTS Koni for 06-09 Civic? Will I be losing travel if I wait for the OTS Koni in respect to your current set-up using the VW inserts? Do have any insight of the reason Koni can't get a full strut housing stamp and or will that ever happen talking to the engineers from Koni? I have no issue drilling out the washer, I was curious if that needed to be done to the OTS Konis being it is said to use the stock upper mount? Again, will I be able to safely allow the vehicle to ride stock height?... not that I want to, I just want to be sure that I can achieve 1.0 – 1.25" drop from stock height successfully.

What length springs are you using on the set-ups you provide in the rear? Being I will be supplying my own springs, what spring length do you suggest I should start with keeping the rates no greater than +50% than stock. My car is mainly used for DD, but the idea of being able to customize the suspension is great. Are there any negative effects of running a longer spring on the front than 6" or is that optimal?

Lastly, I may have worded the "install" part poorly. I meant install of the OTS Koni 06-09 Civic insert into the strut housing not install the general suspension on the vehicle itself. Say I didn't end up going height adjustable in the end, are you going to offer the install of the OTS Koni insert (when available) into the housing if the parts (struts and OTS Koni) were sent to your facility? I have no issue with physically installing the suspension onto the vehicle, as I have done that many times already!

Regards,

Joe

Response to [E-Mail 2] from Chris @ Redshift 01-22-2009

Hi Joe,
I didn't know Koni had anything for the US civic available. Could be, but I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about it if it indeed does exist. And I haven't heard anything from Koni about anything on the OTS setup other than they wanted to do a stamping and full strut but were looking like it would be an insert like the RSX (not as good). I don't have the stroke info.

And we include the installation of the insert into the housings as part of the cost of the suspension setups now. It's all included. And if you give us the front top hats, we'll mod those as well. And you should use 6" front and rear springs for anything under 1000 lb springs front or rear. The front is designed for 6", and I wouldn't mess with that. We have only use 6-7" springs on the rear and 7" doens't give much lowering; so we use 6" usually now.

Chris

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Sent [E-Mail 3] to Chris @ Redshift 01-23-2009

Hi Chris,

What is listed on their site is indeed an insert style product for the front macpherson strut and direct replacement shock for the rear. There are some very recent threads about this on 8thcivic and the koni-na site has them listed with prices and such and installation instructions. Some have called and relayed info about either front or rear being in-stock at their facility as they are waiting for the counterpart from over seas. I should call myself and confirm so I hear it with my own ears.

Looks like you may have over-looked a few questions on my previous e-mail and was wondering if you could comment on them.

Will I be losing travel if I wait for the inserts from Koni in respect to your current set-up using the VW inserts? (using the RSX as a base line being that is similar to 8th civics)

Again, will I be able to safely allow the vehicle to ride stock height? (Not that I want to, I just want to be sure that I can achieve 1.0 – 1.25" drop from stock height successfully)

Thanks again,

Joe

Response to [E-Mail 3] from Chris @ Redshift 01-23-2009

Hi Joe,

It's really hard to comment on something that I don't know about. I think the Koni inserts will be similar to the RSX ones, and in that way will limit travel for sure. And I know that our setup allows you to run at stock ride height, and I'm sure Koni OTS ones will allow that too.

Chris

I figured I would post the correspondance for others that may have similar questions about Red****/KONI suspensions.

[Excelerate]

Xtreme thanks for the update.

[Xtreme Thunder]

Originally Posted by Excelerate

Xtreme thanks for the update.

No problem. I added all my other correspondance with him for others that may have similar questions.