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Old 12-28-2007, 08:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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X should just sell the maf's being as everything else is so easy for DIY's.
and before people come in saying he does. not anymore cuz when corsport takes over it will be full intake or nothing.
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damn...a dyno would be REALLY REALLY good right about now.
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm talking from experience. If he didn't take the time to do what I said in my earlier posts, make the angles absolutely perfect and the right pitch, then he might not be making any power compared to a big name intake, or even stock for that matter. He could be making more power up top but in the middle, probably not at all.
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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damn...a dyno would be REALLY REALLY good right about now.
It would be, but let us recall that the OP did this DIY for FREE! It is NOT his responsibility to dyno it! If he wants to, out of his own free will, then great! If not, then possibly someone else can make one and dyno it...I'm considering doing just that (same place X dynos too)...it just might be 1+ month for me due to $$$
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X should just sell the maf's being as everything else is so easy for DIY's.
and before people come in saying he does. not anymore cuz when corsport takes over it will be full intake or nothing.
That's what I was thinking, it would've made much more sense to just sell the MAF housing alone...
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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nice DIY...this is how DIY should be..besides the bashing on others products but still very informative....great work anywayse....
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:41 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I actually enjoyed how other products were criticized ( not bashed )

Anyways, good DIY!
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:10 PM   #28 (permalink)
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The ridges really don't cause enough turbulence to matter. If they did Honda wouldn't use this tube. An improperly angled MAF housing will cause more turbulence than the tube ever will. And this will seriously hamper performance.
There is more than just performance there. Cost and ease of install are bigger issues than the performance difference between a rough tube and a smooth one. Also, the folds in the stock tube stretch to move with the engine when it rocks.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I applaud dwn4anything for his craftmanship however the Apexi filter will achieve more power than his large K&N and as stated before his angles in the MAF are not perfect which is everything. X spent a lot of time and money perfecting his jig, hp #'s, and afr readouts through numerous dyno pulls. This intake has potential it just needs more r&d and dyno testing to perfect it.
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Old 12-28-2007, 11:12 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I give up!! If you just cut out the MAF housing and just cut any old angle on the vanes it's just not gonna work. The intake tube design means absolutely nothing. All you have to worry about is the air that passes over the MAF sensor. The purpose of the vanes is not to cut through the air better. It is to trick the car into thinking there is less air than there really is. Keeping the fuel the same and keeping the timing advanced. this produces a leaner burn and a more efficient burn which results in more power. Just cutting some random vanes and a smooth tube isn't gonna do anything. But if you guys think so all the power to ya. Good luck.
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Old 12-28-2007, 11:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Just get the MAF right, then use the stock Si tube, and choose your own filter. Then save some $$$$
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:09 AM   #33 (permalink)
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So soxfan143 being that you have gotten a successful MAF mod just how far back from the front of the fins did you go to get optimal slopage? Being that that is the critical number do tell!!!!

*with all respect!*
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i just finished mine... i have a friends filter on there right now... and i used the stock Si tubing...

i drove it around and i definitely felt the difference... the rpms flew up way faster than b4...

i remember driving my car and noticing how much harder the car pulls from 7k and up... and now my tires literally almost break loose when in second gear and above 7k... the rpms stay up a little bit higher when shifting too...

that's my review from trying this DIY... no check engine lights, car pulls harder (on the butt dyno), i might be able to dyno for real 2morrow, but i have to call my friend and see if he'll be at the shop...
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ever seen a dremel bit self-destruct? it's no joke m8
i've had one blow on me. and i've also had a heatgun go from 2000rpm to about 20,000rpm ad shot out hotttttt little metal things. it hurts alottt
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i just finished mine... i have a friends filter on there right now... and i used the stock Si tubing...

i drove it around and i definitely felt the difference... the rpms flew up way faster than b4...

i remember driving my car and noticing how much harder the car pulls from 7k and up... and now my tires literally almost break loose when in second gear and above 7k... the rpms stay up a little bit higher when shifting too...

that's my review from trying this DIY... no check engine lights, car pulls harder (on the butt dyno), i might be able to dyno for real 2morrow, but i have to call my friend and see if he'll be at the shop...
Damn dude! That was fast as hell! Niiiice!
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i just finished mine... i have a friends filter on there right now... and i used the stock Si tubing...

i drove it around and i definitely felt the difference... the rpms flew up way faster than b4...

i remember driving my car and noticing how much harder the car pulls from 7k and up... and now my tires literally almost break loose when in second gear and above 7k... the rpms stay up a little bit higher when shifting too...

that's my review from trying this DIY... no check engine lights, car pulls harder (on the butt dyno), i might be able to dyno for real 2morrow, but i have to call my friend and see if he'll be at the shop...
Somebody got all excited about this DIY!

So even with the stock Si tube, you still get some noticeable (butt) gains. That's great!
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Somebody got all excited about this DIY!

So even with the stock Si tube, you still get some noticeable (butt) gains. That's great!
hellz yeah... i was waiting for this one...


the dyno will tell for sure... but i swear i've never seen the rpms climb so fast... seriously...


side note: i have experience with various tools etc... and have a pretty steady hand when it comes to making something even... the MAF modification should not be tried unless u know what ur doing... u can very well mess up the sensor and throw a CEL if done wrong...
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Please keep in mind that if any of you do this, it's at your own risk and there's very limited support.

Everybody loves a good DIY, but as some people have alluded to, there needs to be more comprehensive testing done to ensure that nothing goes wrong.
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this has been mentioned in the video as well as in this thread... but i thought i'd draw a picture for those ppl who don't know what to do... or anyone not understanding how this works...

like mentioned b4 this forum or members can not be held responsible for something not done correctly... also to remember that this sensor is very sensitive and must be treated with precise care when shaving the fins to be EXACTLY the same...

this is looking from the side with x-ray glasses... the red part is the MAF sensor and the black thingyz are the fins... and of course the air flow past the sensor...

the reason for shaving this part is to direct air away from the MAF and tricking it to think it has less air resulting in a leaner (still safe) burn...

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