NST Pulley Update!!!

[WhiteSicivic06]

Originally Posted by Tom1222

I think it is a worthwhile mod. Every little bit helps and it is just another piece of the puzzle. I will place my order as soon as I get my Credit Cards paid down a bit. I went Mod crazy for a while and have to recouperate from my spending spree

Me too! Haha

[spocheld]

I've been waiting for 6 WEEKS and am starting to get a little impatient because it said 4 to 6 weeks for the special order. I know they have produced some of the idler pulleys because there is a DIY on it on here already! So where is my kit?!?

Sorry for the rant, just starting to get a little frustrated even though I know it's going to be worth the wait once I put them in.

[MADDOGSI]

Originally Posted by spocheld

I've been waiting for 6 WEEKS and am starting to get a little impatient because it said 4 to 6 weeks for the special order. I know they have produced some of the idler pulleys because there is a DIY on it on here already! So where is my kit?!?

Sorry for the rant, just starting to get a little frustrated even though I know it's going to be worth the wait once I put them in.

The DIY on here are from the guys that are R&D testing the pulleys.The Kit is not quite ready yet but will be soon.

[vetkiller]

Man, I really want to get these, but my friend was telling me how it will screw up the timing of the belts and my lights will dim or other stuff. I'm kind of worried about that now.

I know that this was addressed previously, but when this comes out, I will need to see the proof that this thing is not going to mess my car up.

[60103]

Originally Posted by vetkiller

Man, I really want to get these, but my friend was telling me how it will screw up the timing of the belts and my lights will dim or other stuff. I'm kind of worried about that now.

I know that this was addressed previously, but when this comes out, I will need to see the proof that this thing is not going to mess my car up.

There is no timing on accessories so its impossible for that to be effected.
The dimming of the lights is why they make an alternator pulley, so they dont dim.
So unless they are installed wrong, your good to go.

[COMplex]

Wonder if my supercharger could benefit from this

[MADDOGSI]

Originally Posted by COMplex

Wonder if my supercharger could benefit from this

Sure could. Have two ways to do so. One go with a stock size pulleys but in the light weight material which frees up rotational mass and adds a few more pony's. the other is to do the complete under drive pulley set up and have them custom make a S/C pulley to bring it back up to speed.This way you get the benefit of the under drive and still keep the charger spinning the same speed as it was stock. Give Mike a IM on AIM he can give you the better info.He does tons of pulleys for the S/C Scion's and Lotus. NSTonAIM is their name on AIM.

[8civic]

Originally Posted by vetkiller

Man, I really want to get these, but my friend was telling me how it will screw up the timing of the belts and my lights will dim or other stuff. I'm kind of worried about that now.

I know that this was addressed previously, but when this comes out, I will need to see the proof that this thing is not going to mess my car up.

The first part of what your friend told you is just plain dumb

This is why NST pulleys rock! There are pulley kits out there that underdrive (slow down) your electrical system to a point where your lights can dim or your battery can suffer. This will NOT happen with the NST kit because they provide an overdrive (speed up) alternator pulley with their kit. You have nothing to worry about.

[Kay]

So should I order the 15% underdrive crank pulley and the 15% overdrive alternator pulley? and will I need to order a new belt for the crank?

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by Kay

So should I order the 15% underdrive crank pulley and the 15% overdrive alternator pulley? and will I need to order a new belt for the crank?

Actually there is only one kind of pulley's so the 15% must be it.
My understanding is that if you buy the Alternator and Crank Pulley's you will automatically get the New Idler Pulley for FREE and then there is no need for a new belt. The problem is that the waiting. There is about a 6-10 week waiting period from the time you place the order until you will receive the pulley's

[Excelerate]

Originally Posted by Tom1222

The problem is that the waiting. There is about a 6-10 week waiting period from the time you place the order until you will receive the pulley's

I don't understand why you guys just don't buy the UR pulley set. There is no wait and it's a proven product. The only benefit I see on this set is if the guy sells it with the idler pulley which in reality will maybe give you 1 extra hp if you're lucky. Most of the gains are always in the crank pulley. I'm not saying NST is a bad company; I'm just saying you could get a very similar product today. And UR has been in the industry for 11 years.

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by Excelerate

I don't understand why you guys just don't buy the UR pulley set. There is no wait and it's a proven product. The only benefit I see on this set is if the guy sells it with the idler pulley which in reality will maybe give you 1 extra hp if you're lucky. Most of the gains are always in the crank pulley. I'm not saying NST is a bad company; I'm just saying you could get a very similar product today. And UR has been in the industry for 11 years.

How much for the UR Pulley's? and do we need a new belt?

[spocheld]

Originally Posted by Excelerate

I don't understand why you guys just don't buy the UR pulley set. There is no wait and it's a proven product. The only benefit I see on this set is if the guy sells it with the idler pulley which in reality will maybe give you 1 extra hp if you're lucky. Most of the gains are always in the crank pulley. I'm not saying NST is a bad company; I'm just saying you could get a very similar product today. And UR has been in the industry for 11 years.

The reason that I didn't buy the UR pulleys is that they do not come with an overdrive alternator pulley and they don't come in red. Two distinct disadvantages, even though they are undoubtedly a good product from a reputable company.

[Excelerate]

Originally Posted by Tom1222

How much for the UR Pulley's? and do we need a new belt?

$215 shipped for the pulley set. Yes you do need a new belt. The part # needed is in the instructions.

[Excelerate]

Originally Posted by spocheld

The reason that I didn't buy the UR pulleys is that they do not come with an overdrive alternator pulley and they don't come in red. Two distinct disadvantages, even though they are undoubtedly a good product from a reputable company.

UR's underdrive for the Si kit is about 10%. It is never more than 18-20%. Unless you have a large stereo system (600 watts RMS or larger) or a supercharger you will never notice a difference. I have displayed charts before showing that there is minimal underdrive (on a TSX) w/ the UR underdrive sets.

And UR used to offer colors but it became difficult stocking 4 different colors. Ppl don't like to wait as you can tell from thsi thread.

[mishima8]

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[8civic]

I talked to Mike on AIM: NSTonAIM and asked him about the wait period and told him a lot of you guys seem to be getting impatient. He said that they have been working on kits. This is what he said he sent to a few customers by email.

Thank you for your continued interest and your patience, we certainly do
appreciate it.

As you know, we have been working on some new Idler Pulleys for the K20 SI and
have been doing some testing over the past few weeks.

We are happy to report that our testing has gone well and these parts are all
in full production now. You will receive a full kit... Crank, Alternator, and
Idler Pulley.

These pulleys are all in the works and will be shipped out as soon as
possible. Our current ETA for these pieces is the week of May 14.

We realize that some of you guys have been waiting for these pieces and you
have been very patient so far. We hope that you can appreciate the fact that
we are trying very hard to design, build, and properly test each and every
piece before it is released as a final product. Rest assured that you will be
receiving the best kit on the market in every single way possible. PERIOD!!!

Thanks again for your interest and your patience, we certainly do appreciate
it. As an alternative to Email, feel free to look for us on AOL Instant
Messenger at the screen name NSTonAIM should you wish to chat.


NST Customer Service
www.NonStopTuning.com

As you can see the NST stuff is going to be in stock and available for all to order very soon. And he says those who order both the crank pulley and the alternator pulley right now will get a free idler

[8civic]

Originally Posted by Excelerate

I don't understand why you guys just don't buy the UR pulley set. There is no wait and it's a proven product. The only benefit I see on this set is if the guy sells it with the idler pulley which in reality will maybe give you 1 extra hp if you're lucky. Most of the gains are always in the crank pulley. I'm not saying NST is a bad company; I'm just saying you could get a very similar product today. And UR has been in the industry for 11 years.

I don't understand why you guys at Excelerate don't offer both the UR and NST pulley sets! You guys are a very reputable seller here and you seem to want the community to have good products to use on their cars. But it seems like you always try to push the hell out of the UR stuff and you get confused when people want pulleys from another reputable company. Yes, both companies are great, both products are great, one of them even seems to have a few advantages. Would it not be beneficial for the entire community if you would offer both options so people could get them from you?

I don't know, maybe I'm a dumbass and I'm missing something.

[OneSi]

ok wait so you got my attention. i noticed u said something about radio and supercharged cars. well, im supercharged, would it be a problem for me to run pullies? also, what kind of gain are people expecting to see from these?

[si_civic]

Originally Posted by 8civic

I don't understand why you guys at Excelerate don't offer both the UR and NST pulley sets! You guys are a very reputable seller here and you seem to want the community to have good products to use on their cars. But it seems like you always try to push the hell out of the UR stuff and you get confused when people want pulleys from another reputable company. Yes, both companies are great, both products are great, one of them even seems to have a few advantages. Would it not be beneficial for the entire community if you would offer both options so people could get them from you?

I don't know, maybe I'm a dumbass and I'm missing something.

I totally agree on this, however, I don't think he is bashing NST, but just wants to push his products out the door. Nothing wrong with selling products under your company with a company name that is reputable. If he knows UR, then he'll sell UR, simple as that