DIY: push start button ( wiring diagram)

[hyogen]

OK, so my friend who has done this on his Integra helped me with this last night... we should have gotten it done........EXCEPT for the fact that the only way it appeared to be possible to take out the hazard light was to take off the whole dash OFF...including the one around the steering wheel and speedometer....in order to take the audio/clock panel off... Is this true?

He tried taking off the cubby hole panel where the DC converter and line-in plug-in is, but when he pulled the whole front was pulling too so he didn't know if it was one piece.

I'm bummed

He says taking off all those clips and stuff correctly for the big dash piece around my steering wheel could take half a day..

What have you guys been doing? MAINLY: How do you take that hazard light out?

Thanks

[J-Ro]

Originally Posted by hyogen

OK, so my friend who has done this on his Integra helped me with this last night... we should have gotten it done........EXCEPT for the fact that the only way it appeared to be possible to take out the hazard light was to take off the whole dash OFF...including the one around the steering wheel and speedometer....in order to take the audio/clock panel off... Is this true?

He tried taking off the cubby hole panel where the DC converter and line-in plug-in is, but when he pulled the whole front was pulling too so he didn't know if it was one piece.

I'm bummed

He says taking off all those clips and stuff correctly for the big dash piece around my steering wheel could take half a day..

What have you guys been doing? MAINLY: How do you take that hazard light out?

Thanks

Yes, you have to remove the top and bottom steering column covers, the lower driver's side dash, upper driver's side dash, and the radio dash section, in that order. The hazard button is fastened by two Phillips-head screws from the back, which is why the dash has to come out unfortunately.
This is what your dash will look like part-way through



It took me about an hour to take it apart because I was still trying to figure out how it all came apart, but putting it back together took less than 20 mins. If I remember correctly there are only one or two screws in the panels (except for the steering column covers), so the clips make everything come apart and go back together fairly smoothly.

[hyogen]

Yeah I saw this pic last night. Thanks. Ok, I'll try it!

Otherwise, I'll just drill a hole on the left side, next to my window adjustments and the blank cover spot. NEXT to it...not IN the blank cover spot (07' VSA button). I have 06. I guess it'll be a safer place for it on the left side so a passenger can't hit it.

[J-Ro]

Originally Posted by hyogen

Yeah I saw this pic last night. Thanks. Ok, I'll try it!

Otherwise, I'll just drill a hole on the left side, next to my window adjustments and the blank cover spot. NEXT to it...not IN the blank cover spot (07' VSA button). I have 06. I guess it'll be a safer place for it on the left side so a passenger can't hit it.

Yeah that's where I've got it. Just be aware that there is some plastic directly behind that spot, so you'll either have to place it well or shave some plastic

[bizzybearfigiblue]

J-Ro's correct that's what needs to come off....but it really should only take about 3-5 mins at most to take all that apart....

here's a pic of what i'm talking about....


This is the piece that needs to come off....


Then it will look like this...


Take only these 2 screws to get the radio off....


Then there's only one screw to take off for the other dash piece....


everything else is just clips.....ohh and the plugs that's on the radio, etc....

I didn't take my steering column off but that piece only has I think 3 screws and it just snaps off....

[sai_1987]

can u do the same thing on the '06 civic ex? if u can, can u lemme know how to do that on my civc?

[bizzybearfigiblue]

you should be able to do it on any 2006+ civic....all the wires should be the same...

[Snooz]

OK OK Alll you's guys stuff looks great ,,but im trying somthing a lil different , im wiring my V1 radar detector to the back of the cig. power supply but cant figure out how to take it aart to get to the wires.......geees any pics would realy help........

[jasperdmx]

Originally Posted by Jepetto

yea, its actually the power supply cable that connects to the floppy drive.

if we use computer socket to plug into start button, do you think the cable will be too small to handle current electric flow ?
of course we cannot put 12 gauge wire into computer socket's pin, right ?

[J-Ro]

Originally Posted by jasperdmx

if we use computer socket to plug into start button, do you think the cable will be too small to handle current electric flow ?
of course we cannot put 12 gauge wire into computer socket's pin, right ?

I've heard of some people connecting the computer socket directly to the ignition wires, but that's not a good idea. Better to relay it properly, as it is in the S2000... that way the start button is only working with a small amount of current, as it was intended to do.

[Jepetto]

Originally Posted by jasperdmx

if we use computer socket to plug into start button, do you think the cable will be too small to handle current electric flow ?
of course we cannot put 12 gauge wire into computer socket's pin, right ?

I sodered new wires close to the connector to be safe similar to this:



The size wire to use will depend on on the amount of current that your fuse is letting pass though. I would not go below these numbers here:

Fuse - Guage
7.5 - 21
10 - 19
15 - 18
20 - 17
30 - 14

[J-Ro]

^ Yeah, but jasperdmx is talking about the low-current side of the fuse isn't he? Or did miss something?
Assuming he was talking about the low-current side, the computer harness is fine... you're only dealing with a couple hundred mA, max.

[Jepetto]

Originally Posted by J-Ro

^ Yeah, but jasperdmx is talking about the low-current side of the fuse isn't he? Or did miss something?
Assuming he was talking about the low-current side, the computer harness is fine... you're only dealing with a couple hundred mA, max.

Yea, the amount of current on the input of the relay will be determined by the relay itself. I couldnt find any info on how much current is needed to activate the relay. Its probably pretty low.

[bengteck]

my little contribution after absorbing the entire threads
in my country we can get this connector from the electronic shop

[jasperdmx]

Originally Posted by bengteck

my little contribution after absorbing the entire threads
in my country we can get this connector from the electronic shop

bro bengteck, i also got mine like urs.
JDM type-r engine start button.
so the pin wires seem different with s2000 ones, right.
'coz s2000 button only use 3 pins from 5 pin available.
but urs, use all of them ?

[jasperdmx]

Originally Posted by Jepetto

Yea, the amount of current on the input of the relay will be determined by the relay itself. I couldnt find any info on how much current is needed to activate the relay. Its probably pretty low.

yeah right, i am talking about the current when we push the button to power up the engine, so the current will go to relay from the button.
if pretty low, how much low, i mean, computer cable can handle it or not.
yeah, once again, we not sure about the current to activate relay.

[J-Ro]

Originally Posted by jasperdmx

yeah right, i am talking about the current when we push the button to power up the engine, so the current will go to relay from the button.
if pretty low, how much low, i mean, computer cable can handle it or not.
yeah, once again, we not sure about the current to activate relay.

"The current draw by the coil of a bosch relay is ~0.160 amps (~75 ohm coil)."
From: http://www.bcae1.com/relays.htm

That's a pretty small current draw... IMO, you're fine with a computer harness.
One other interesting thing to note in that article is to connect a quenching diode across the coil terminals of the relay to prevent back-EMF when you release the button. This will increase the life of the switch... I think I'm going to open mine up again and put one in.

[jaysep]

Hi I have a question. I just bought a 2007 honda civic 1.8v and (i'm from the philippines, by the way) I am wondering if there is an existing jack within the front doors if I want to upgrade the side view mirrom housing with a signal light. Please help.

[bizzybearfigiblue]

Originally Posted by jaysep

Hi I have a question. I just bought a 2007 honda civic 1.8v and (i'm from the philippines, by the way) I am wondering if there is an existing jack within the front doors if I want to upgrade the side view mirrom housing with a signal light. Please help.

i'm assuming u have a sedan... if so u can just buy the hybrid mirrors they have the signal in them already...

nothing for the coupe...

[Joel H]

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