DIY: push start button ( wiring diagram) - Page 12

BATANG CITY JAIL · 03-18-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bizzybearfigiblue

what if i do this and my car is automatic?? do i still need to leave it in Neutral??

no....

CorntoeGoblin · 03-19-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Szwaboski

lol since automatics don't have clutches I would think it wouldn't matter plus I think park would work just the same?

well technically automatic DO have a clutch you just dont have control of it but his question was hilarious

bizzybearfigiblue · 03-19-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

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Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

no....

Szwaboski · 03-19-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jepetto

Is the LED behind the start button lighting up?

Do you have the key in the II position?

Can you hear the relay open when you press the button?

No the LED behind the start button isn't lighting up but I don't have it hooked up to light up.

The key is in the II position and the clutch was pressed in.

I thought I heard a slight noise but I thought it was just my imagination.

Szwaboski · 03-19-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Ro

Hmm.... check your wiring. I'm pretty sure you need blue for power and yellow for ignition. I'm pretty sure I didn't touch the orange in my install. Also, check to make sure that you've got a good ground.

Well I'm going back today we did this at the circuit city install shop since that's where my friend works and he just looked up the wiring from their database and checked it to make sure it was a 12v wire and it was. I'm going back there tonight so we can have another go at it. I guess we'll try using the blue for power instead of the orange, can't hurt to try.

Jepetto · 03-19-2008, 09:15 AM

The LED inside the button is connected to the 12V input. If this is not lighting up then there is a problem with your 12v input or ground.

Szwaboski · 03-19-2008, 09:21 AM

Is this what your talking about? The 2 right parts for the LED?

We only used the first 3 pins on the left like this

Jepetto · 03-19-2008, 09:29 AM

nope, thats a different button. If you open the button up you can see that those two pins actually go to nothing. I'll try and get a picture posted later. This is also why I recommend using a power source that you can turn off else your led will constantly stay on.

Szwaboski · 03-19-2008, 09:33 AM

Ok well the LED never turned on so does that mean I have a broken button?

Szwaboski · 03-19-2008, 09:33 AM

and yea I'll suggest them using the cigarrete lighter

Jepetto · 03-19-2008, 09:44 AM

Probably not, unless you ran a lot of amps though it by accident. There is really nothing to the internals, just pipes.

Double check your connections and a militmeter can be a life saver if you have one. If you don't, go buy one.

Szwaboski · 03-19-2008, 09:50 AM

A militmeter checks the volts right? We were using that all night. We blew a fuse we had because a ground and the 12v power wire touched so hopefully it didn't mess up the button. I'll make sure we check all connections again tonight. Thanks

Jepetto · 03-19-2008, 10:12 AM

A mulitmeter can check Voltage, Amps, and Resistance. All useful info

If you want to test your button, hook up your power and ground to the button. Touch the output of the button with the positive connection of the multimeter and make sure the the negative connection of the multimeter is in contact with a good grounding point. Press the button and you should see the multimeter spike from 0 to 12v.

Szwaboski · 03-20-2008, 10:35 AM

yea we tried that with all different combinations and we weren't getting anything out of the button so hopefully tonight I can resolve it

Jepetto · 03-20-2008, 01:46 PM

Here are the insides of the button.

Top:

Bottom:

Szwaboski · 03-20-2008, 06:08 PM

Ok I'm back up at my circuit city roadshop and we're going to attempt this again. Oh and it was an accessory wire that we hooked the 12v power to and my friend said it's the same as the cig. wire

Szwaboski · 03-20-2008, 07:30 PM

Ok we got it to work... Bad relay adapter lol

Szwaboski · 03-20-2008, 08:52 PM

Ok here's some pictures of my push start button.

bizzybearfigiblue · 03-20-2008, 11:10 PM

nice... looks a little too much to the right IMO... but good nonetheless

**J-Ro** · 03-20-2008, 11:45 PM

Nice! Good to see you got it working.

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03-19-2008, 09:15 AM	#226 (permalink)
Jepetto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 26 Posts: 463 iTrader: 0 / 0%	The LED inside the button is connected to the 12V input. If this is not lighting up then there is a problem with your 12v input or ground.

03-19-2008, 09:21 AM	#227 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	Is this what your talking about? The 2 right parts for the LED? We only used the first 3 pins on the left like this

03-19-2008, 09:29 AM	#228 (permalink)
Jepetto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 26 Posts: 463 iTrader: 0 / 0%	nope, thats a different button. If you open the button up you can see that those two pins actually go to nothing. I'll try and get a picture posted later. This is also why I recommend using a power source that you can turn off else your led will constantly stay on.

03-19-2008, 09:33 AM	#229 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ok well the LED never turned on so does that mean I have a broken button?

03-19-2008, 09:33 AM	#230 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	and yea I'll suggest them using the cigarrete lighter

03-19-2008, 09:44 AM	#231 (permalink)
Jepetto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 26 Posts: 463 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Probably not, unless you ran a lot of amps though it by accident. There is really nothing to the internals, just pipes. Double check your connections and a militmeter can be a life saver if you have one. If you don't, go buy one.

03-19-2008, 09:50 AM	#232 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	A militmeter checks the volts right? We were using that all night. We blew a fuse we had because a ground and the 12v power wire touched so hopefully it didn't mess up the button. I'll make sure we check all connections again tonight. Thanks

03-19-2008, 10:12 AM	#233 (permalink)
Jepetto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 26 Posts: 463 iTrader: 0 / 0%	A mulitmeter can check Voltage, Amps, and Resistance. All useful info If you want to test your button, hook up your power and ground to the button. Touch the output of the button with the positive connection of the multimeter and make sure the the negative connection of the multimeter is in contact with a good grounding point. Press the button and you should see the multimeter spike from 0 to 12v.

03-20-2008, 10:35 AM	#234 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	yea we tried that with all different combinations and we weren't getting anything out of the button so hopefully tonight I can resolve it

03-20-2008, 01:46 PM	#235 (permalink)
Jepetto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 26 Posts: 463 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Here are the insides of the button. Top: Bottom:

03-20-2008, 06:08 PM	#236 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ok I'm back up at my circuit city roadshop and we're going to attempt this again. Oh and it was an accessory wire that we hooked the 12v power to and my friend said it's the same as the cig. wire

03-20-2008, 07:30 PM	#237 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ok we got it to work... Bad relay adapter lol

03-20-2008, 08:52 PM	#238 (permalink)
Szwaboski Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 20 Posts: 459 Nik iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ok here's some pictures of my push start button.

03-20-2008, 11:10 PM	#239 (permalink)
bizzybearfigiblue Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 17,339 iTrader: 4 / 100%	nice... looks a little too much to the right IMO... but good nonetheless