CTR Push start button DIY install w/pics and wiring diagram - Page 11

joon joon · 05-22-2009, 09:04 PM

mine hasnt...

HERO · 06-02-2009, 08:46 PM

I just ordered mine today.
I wonder if it messes up the warranty... anyone know? I have an appointment Friday for a new seat belt buckle (turns out I got a factory defected one that caused my SRS light to stay on). I can ask then but for the mean while anyone know?

BTW to the OT and to Steve - thanks for the DIY insight.

ctboy31 · 08-04-2009, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albrecq'sSI

Just asked my dealer about it. Since they get parts from streetlightz and work with this site they are going to do it. $215 for parts (hazard switch, housing, and push start) and install. Is it worth that much?

which dealer in SanDog?

ctboy31 · 08-04-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albrecq'sSI

Just asked my dealer about it. Since they get parts from streetlightz and work with this site they are going to do it. $215 for parts (hazard switch, housing, and push start) and install. Is it worth that much?

$80 for the whole CTR PSB including the bezel and about $45 for the hazard switch. $100 labor. i think it's worth it. are they going to warranty the install?

jamzey · 08-05-2009, 02:06 PM

The switch and bezel are like $40 from A&J Racing. I just got mine yesterday.

A&J Racing*::*Interior*::*JDM Parts*::*JDM Honda Start Button - Acura CSX 06+ (FD2)

jamzey · 08-07-2009, 01:12 PM

You don't need to use a relay because there is already a relay in the circuit.
Installed mine today. Works great. Also put in a toggle switch to turn the key off and on in case the switch fails.

ctboy31 · 08-07-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamzey

You don't need to use a relay because there is already a relay in the circuit.
Installed mine today. Works great. Also put in a toggle switch to turn the key off and on in case the switch fails.

my electrician installed a relay. you need one just like what both CTR PSB DIY thread asked for. key still works even without pushing the PSB just in case something happens with it.

jamzey · 08-08-2009, 03:51 PM

If you wire like the diagram you are installing a 2nd relay to do the same function as the existing one. I went to school at the Acura/Honda apprenticship program in Toronto so I have a bit of knowledge with cars. Also I work in the Honda engine plant in Alliston, ON and discussed this with several licensed technicians that work in our repair dept. They all came to the same concensus Honda would not design a vehicle that would allow that much current to go to the Key switch. So installing a 2nd relay is redundant and consuming power.
Also I wired in a toggle switch to be able to turn the key on and off in case my switch fails.

ctboy31 · 08-08-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamzey

If you wire like the diagram you are installing a 2nd relay to do the same function as the existing one. I went to school at the Acura/Honda apprenticship program in Toronto so I have a bit of knowledge with cars. Also I work in the Honda engine plant in Alliston, ON and discussed this with several licensed technicians that work in our repair dept. They all came to the same concensus Honda would not design a vehicle that would allow that much current to go to the Key switch. So installing a 2nd relay is redundant and consuming power.
Also I wired in a toggle switch to be able to turn the key on and off in case my switch fails.

ic. mine does not have a toggle switch, but the key sitll works even when the PSB doesn't. how much for that school? any website for that to get infos.

jamzey · 08-08-2009, 04:00 PM

I went in the early 90's and Honda paid for it books and all. Kinda ironic I work at the factory now...lol.
The school is Centennial College.
Full-Time Program 8682 - HONDA CANADA INC. - AHAP

av911 · 08-08-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamzey

So installing a 2nd relay is redundant and consuming power.

It's also redundant to have a toggle switch to be able to turn the key.

jamzey · 08-08-2009, 07:30 PM

Touche...lol. Yes it is indeed. I wanted my key to be disabled but wanted a backup if the switch ever failed. So really it does have a function. Unlike the relay who's job is being done by the factory relay. To each his own.

cbp27 · 09-26-2009, 11:34 PM

I have a coupe too and don't like the idea of drilling a hole in my dash. What if this JDM Honda Jazz Button fit into the Blank VSN Off plug?? Then you may be able to put the engine start button into the original hazard button hole? Just an idea...

Here's a link to the Fit's hazard button with a picture below:

A&J Racing :: Interior :: JDM Parts :: JDM Honda Hazard Switch - Honda Fit/Jazz 06-08 (GD3/GD4)

av911 · 09-27-2009, 12:19 AM

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/6254820-post517.html

I changed it to a VSA button recently.

joon joon · 09-27-2009, 12:25 AM

i think someone was saying that the button will work in the space where the power outlet is..

cbp27 · 09-27-2009, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joon joon

i think someone was saying that the button will work in the space where the power outlet is..

You mean the power button will fit in power outlet like in the picture below? Guess that's okay.

hondahead814 · 10-10-2009, 02:09 PM

how do you do the type r hazard button? does it just swapout with the stock one?? sry im really bad with electric jobs.

joon joon · 10-10-2009, 02:25 PM

yeah sorry i didnt get back to u.. but yeah, i read somewhere it'll fit.. where that arrow is pointing in that pic...

the hazard button is a direct swap

MECPFORYOU · 10-14-2009, 12:12 PM

So I was looking over this great diy but, I became a little confused when he said he tapped in to the ignition wire when it is really the starter wire..idk just throwing it out just incase some one really hooks this up to their ignion wire and then there car doesnt crank. Im not trying to knock the diy cause its a great one.

av911 · 10-14-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MECPFORYOU

So I was looking over this great diy but, I became a little confused when he said he tapped in to the ignition wire when it is really the starter wire..idk just throwing it out just incase some one really hooks this up to their ignion wire and then there car doesnt crank. Im not trying to knock the diy cause its a great one.

Who cares what it's called? Tap it into the yellow and white wire.

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05-22-2009, 09:04 PM	#201 (permalink)
joon joon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,981	mine hasnt...

06-02-2009, 08:46 PM	#202 (permalink)
HERO Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West Coast Cali. Posts: 1,956	I just ordered mine today. I wonder if it messes up the warranty... anyone know? I have an appointment Friday for a new seat belt buckle (turns out I got a factory defected one that caused my SRS light to stay on). I can ask then but for the mean while anyone know? BTW to the OT and to Steve - thanks for the DIY insight.

08-05-2009, 02:06 PM	#205 (permalink)
jamzey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 296	The switch and bezel are like $40 from A&J Racing. I just got mine yesterday. A&J Racing::Interior::JDM Parts::JDM Honda Start Button - Acura CSX 06+ (FD2)

08-07-2009, 01:12 PM	#206 (permalink)
jamzey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 296	You don't need to use a relay because there is already a relay in the circuit. Installed mine today. Works great. Also put in a toggle switch to turn the key off and on in case the switch fails.

08-08-2009, 03:51 PM	#208 (permalink)
jamzey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 296	If you wire like the diagram you are installing a 2nd relay to do the same function as the existing one. I went to school at the Acura/Honda apprenticship program in Toronto so I have a bit of knowledge with cars. Also I work in the Honda engine plant in Alliston, ON and discussed this with several licensed technicians that work in our repair dept. They all came to the same concensus Honda would not design a vehicle that would allow that much current to go to the Key switch. So installing a 2nd relay is redundant and consuming power. Also I wired in a toggle switch to be able to turn the key on and off in case my switch fails.

08-08-2009, 04:00 PM	#210 (permalink)
jamzey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 296	I went in the early 90's and Honda paid for it books and all. Kinda ironic I work at the factory now...lol. The school is Centennial College. Full-Time Program 8682 - HONDA CANADA INC. - AHAP

08-08-2009, 07:30 PM	#212 (permalink)
jamzey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 296	Touche...lol. Yes it is indeed. I wanted my key to be disabled but wanted a backup if the switch ever failed. So really it does have a function. Unlike the relay who's job is being done by the factory relay. To each his own.

09-27-2009, 12:19 AM	#214 (permalink)
av911 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Francisco Age: 30 Posts: 3,311	http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/6254820-post517.html I changed it to a VSA button recently.

09-27-2009, 12:25 AM	#215 (permalink)
joon joon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,981	i think someone was saying that the button will work in the space where the power outlet is..

10-10-2009, 02:09 PM	#217 (permalink)
hondahead814 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fishkill, NY Posts: 368 Chris	how do you do the type r hazard button? does it just swapout with the stock one?? sry im really bad with electric jobs.

10-10-2009, 02:25 PM	#218 (permalink)
joon joon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,981	yeah sorry i didnt get back to u.. but yeah, i read somewhere it'll fit.. where that arrow is pointing in that pic... the hazard button is a direct swap

10-14-2009, 12:12 PM	#219 (permalink)
MECPFORYOU Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chesapeake Posts: 94	So I was looking over this great diy but, I became a little confused when he said he tapped in to the ignition wire when it is really the starter wire..idk just throwing it out just incase some one really hooks this up to their ignion wire and then there car doesnt crank. Im not trying to knock the diy cause its a great one.

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