Upgraded injectors + cold start = rev hang - Page 8

Supa Ninja · 03-02-2010, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSi4

Doing this towards the end of the week, I know Nick is gonna be like "It was about time

"

Thanks guys!

"It was about time

"

BlueSi4 · 03-02-2010, 04:46 PM

I knew it!

BlueSi4 · 03-03-2010, 02:05 PM

I went to NAPA and the only thing they had was the thread sealant

BlueSi4 · 03-07-2010, 02:59 PM

Jay, what size is the bottom part of the valve? A 23mm??

Supa Ninja · 03-07-2010, 03:01 PM

I beleive it's cresent wrench size

**mucter** · 03-07-2010, 03:58 PM

A 15/16" wrench works perfectly.

BlueSi4 · 03-07-2010, 05:31 PM

I bought a 21mm but it's too small, gotta return it and pick up something else that will work.

The mod is halfway done, I mean, it's done but it's ghetto rigged lmao

**mucter** · 03-07-2010, 05:33 PM

15/16" (or maybe 24mm) open end wrench should get it done. You'll need some serious elbow grease too. Honda used some sort of "Incredible Hulk" thread locker on that ish.

Teegs · 03-07-2010, 05:33 PM

come on now ladies...

**mucter** · 03-07-2010, 05:35 PM

Seriously, my wrench started to bend before it finally popped. I thought it was going to snap.

BlueSi4 · 03-07-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mucter

15/16" (or maybe 24mm) open end wrench should get it done. You'll need some serious elbow grease too. Honda used some sort of "Incredible Hulk" thread locker on that ish.

I KNOW!!

I was trying to do it at first with an adjustable, and it almost snapped and the nut didn't even move

Supa Ninja · 03-07-2010, 05:52 PM

I must have had my wheaties that morning, it was no big deal.

***VitViper*** · 03-08-2010, 02:58 AM

Weak wrench IMO.

Or user error.

BlueSi4 · 03-08-2010, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitViper

Weak wrench IMO.

Or user error.

I haven't tried it with the 24mm, so I can't say. But after taking the filter and a few things out, space was very limited and couldn't apply that much force to it. The BOV is in the way too, might have to remove that in order to get a better grip

habred24 · 03-08-2010, 06:31 PM

My valve tip just broke off as i was trying to pull the hose off so was planning to plug the holes up. The only real question i have is will this throw any cels.

Supa Ninja · 03-08-2010, 06:55 PM

no cels

OrdnanceMarine · 03-08-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habred24

My valve tip just broke off as i was trying to pull the hose off so was planning to plug the holes up. The only real question i have is will this throw any cels.

Been there, done that! Definitely won't throw any CELs.

keefer · 03-08-2010, 07:07 PM

Heh. So I did this yesterday, and I didn't feel like pulling my blower off to unscrew it. So I just sawed the one side, and snapped that bia bia in half with a pair of vise grips. Came off rather easily with a 15/16 socket and 1/2" breaker bar. :o Oh, and by the way, this works with the stock modified injectors that come with the CT kit. I just need to ask Jay a few questions. - Sent you a message. Or Vit if you could help maybe..

Edit: Ah heck with it I'll just post here to see if I can get help. Ok, so as stated, I went ahead and got rid of the IABT (or AAV) valve. I have the modified stock 520CC CTE injectors. Everything seems to run like a champ after the car comes to temp and the valve is supposed to be closed. (Shifts even seem smoother but maybe it's placebo effect.)
Anyhow, when the car is still cold, and I'm babying it around the development here I get a bit of resurgence when shifting from 1st gear to neutral. So to give a for instance. I start the car let it idle for a minute or so, then I begin to slowly baby it on my way to the stop light out of the development. On the way to the stop light, I don't go above 1-2 gears. So lets say I'm coasting down the street at 6 MPH in 1st. I'm coming to the intersection to turn, so I throw it in neutral and coast to an easy stop before turning. When I go from 1st -> neutral, it seems I get a bit of resurgence. The AFR's drop to about 11.5-12, the engine seems to "stumble" a bit, as if there was a slight surge and in 2 seconds it rebounds right back to normal low load operating AFR. (14.7 or so). I am assuming this is coming from the car thinking the IABT valve is present and the car still being cold. Anyhow - how do I remedy this? Someone please enlighten me.

**mucter** · 03-08-2010, 08:28 PM

Keith, you might want to try the idle learn procedure. It might help with that bit of weirdness when the engine is cold. I noticed that at first as well, but it went away with time.

Let car cool completely.

- Take off negative battery terminal for 10 seconds.
- Reattach positive battery terminal
- switch key to II(run) position for 10 seconds
- start car
- Rev to 2900-3000 RPM for 7 minutes
- leave the car on, and let idle for 15 minutes.

Supa Ninja · 03-08-2010, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mucter

Keith, you might want to try the idle learn procedure. It might help with that bit of weirdness when the engine is cold. I noticed that at first as well, but it went away with time.

Let car cool completely.

- Take off negative battery terminal for 10 seconds.
- Reattach positive battery terminal
- switch key to II(run) position for 10 seconds
- start car
- Rev to 2900-3000 RPM for 7 minutes
- leave the car on, and let idle for 15 minutes.

I've never once done that, oh well mine idles fine.

03-07-2010, 03:58 PM	#146 (permalink)
mucter SBD Mode Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15,359	A 15/16" wrench works perfectly. __________________ becauseHONDA™

03-07-2010, 05:33 PM	#148 (permalink)
mucter SBD Mode Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15,359	15/16" (or maybe 24mm) open end wrench should get it done. You'll need some serious elbow grease too. Honda used some sort of "Incredible Hulk" thread locker on that ish. __________________ becauseHONDA™

03-07-2010, 05:35 PM	#150 (permalink)
mucter SBD Mode Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15,359	Seriously, my wrench started to bend before it finally popped. I thought it was going to snap. __________________ becauseHONDA™

03-08-2010, 02:58 AM	#153 (permalink)
*VitViper* VitTuned 4tw Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: My VE > Your VE Posts: 10,092	Weak wrench IMO. Or user error. __________________ http://flashprotuning.com - FlashPro Video Tutorials, Displays and the Home of the eDyno \| MyVTECBroke.com - My Si... and stuff. Got a turbo, S/C or N/A K20 or R18? Don't get scammed, get a QUALITY eTune from the most established and reputable eTuner in the community @VitTuned!

03-08-2010, 07:07 PM	#158 (permalink)
keefer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,607	Heh. So I did this yesterday, and I didn't feel like pulling my blower off to unscrew it. So I just sawed the one side, and snapped that bia bia in half with a pair of vise grips. Came off rather easily with a 15/16 socket and 1/2" breaker bar. :o Oh, and by the way, this works with the stock modified injectors that come with the CT kit. I just need to ask Jay a few questions. - Sent you a message. Or Vit if you could help maybe.. Edit: Ah heck with it I'll just post here to see if I can get help. Ok, so as stated, I went ahead and got rid of the IABT (or AAV) valve. I have the modified stock 520CC CTE injectors. Everything seems to run like a champ after the car comes to temp and the valve is supposed to be closed. (Shifts even seem smoother but maybe it's placebo effect.) Anyhow, when the car is still cold, and I'm babying it around the development here I get a bit of resurgence when shifting from 1st gear to neutral. So to give a for instance. I start the car let it idle for a minute or so, then I begin to slowly baby it on my way to the stop light out of the development. On the way to the stop light, I don't go above 1-2 gears. So lets say I'm coasting down the street at 6 MPH in 1st. I'm coming to the intersection to turn, so I throw it in neutral and coast to an easy stop before turning. When I go from 1st -> neutral, it seems I get a bit of resurgence. The AFR's drop to about 11.5-12, the engine seems to "stumble" a bit, as if there was a slight surge and in 2 seconds it rebounds right back to normal low load operating AFR. (14.7 or so). I am assuming this is coming from the car thinking the IABT valve is present and the car still being cold. Anyhow - how do I remedy this? Someone please enlighten me. Last edited by keefer; 03-08-2010 at 07:18 PM.

03-02-2010, 04:46 PM	#142 (permalink)
BlueSi4 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Yawk Age: 25 Posts: 42,499 Oriol	I knew it!

03-03-2010, 02:05 PM	#143 (permalink)
BlueSi4 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Yawk Age: 25 Posts: 42,499 Oriol	I went to NAPA and the only thing they had was the thread sealant

03-07-2010, 02:59 PM	#144 (permalink)
BlueSi4 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Yawk Age: 25 Posts: 42,499 Oriol	Jay, what size is the bottom part of the valve? A 23mm??

03-07-2010, 03:01 PM	#145 (permalink)
Supa Ninja Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Log Squad #2 Age: 37 Posts: 8,668 Nick	I beleive it's cresent wrench size

03-07-2010, 05:31 PM	#147 (permalink)
BlueSi4 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Yawk Age: 25 Posts: 42,499 Oriol	I bought a 21mm but it's too small, gotta return it and pick up something else that will work. The mod is halfway done, I mean, it's done but it's ghetto rigged lmao

03-07-2010, 05:33 PM	#149 (permalink)
Teegs Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 3,300 Matt	come on now ladies...

03-07-2010, 05:52 PM	#152 (permalink)
Supa Ninja Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Log Squad #2 Age: 37 Posts: 8,668 Nick	I must have had my wheaties that morning, it was no big deal.

03-08-2010, 06:31 PM	#155 (permalink)
habred24 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 84 Pete	My valve tip just broke off as i was trying to pull the hose off so was planning to plug the holes up. The only real question i have is will this throw any cels.

03-08-2010, 06:55 PM	#156 (permalink)
Supa Ninja Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Log Squad #2 Age: 37 Posts: 8,668 Nick	no cels

03-08-2010, 08:28 PM	#159 (permalink)
mucter SBD Mode Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15,359	Keith, you might want to try the idle learn procedure. It might help with that bit of weirdness when the engine is cold. I noticed that at first as well, but it went away with time. Let car cool completely. - Take off negative battery terminal for 10 seconds. - Reattach positive battery terminal - switch key to II(run) position for 10 seconds - start car - Rev to 2900-3000 RPM for 7 minutes - leave the car on, and let idle for 15 minutes. __________________ becauseHONDA™

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