ECU Upgrades & Tuning Information. - Page 2

Civic06SiR · 07-05-2008, 06:28 PM

Your missing the information from Hydra or Hytech? It's a type of reflash, but it's suppose to be better than K-Pro, allowing you to tune your ECU. Although it's very expensive, I think + 2K for the upgrade.

Whocares05050 · 07-05-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Civic06SiR

Your missing the information from Hydra or Hytech? It's a type of reflash, but it's suppose to be better than K-Pro, allowing you to tune your ECU. Although it's very expensive, I think + 2K for the upgrade.

You mean Hydra's Nemesis full standalone? Its not out yet, and its not a reflash, but a fully programable standalone unit.

gzmo · 07-06-2008, 01:52 AM

Ok....I just want my car to go vroom vroom fast. I have an intake, header, exhaust, pulley's, "stiffy" torque dampener, and some stickers (+5hp). What more could I do to get better time on the track + better numbers on the dyno?

Whocares05050 · 07-06-2008, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gzmo

Ok....I just want my car to go vroom vroom fast. I have an intake, header, exhaust, pulley's, "stiffy" torque dampener, and some stickers (+5hp). What more could I do to get better time on the track + better numbers on the dyno?

Power is no good without being able to use it. Upgrade all of your suspension components including light weight rims, and stickier tires for better times on the track.

To better numbers i would suggest getting the car tuned with either the ultimate, or the AEM. a good tuner will be able to make more power. Once you have the tunning installed and available to you, theres always additions you could do. ( CAMS, Etc. )

gOzP · 07-06-2008, 02:59 AM

this is wery wery good topic..

thanks bro

Slipp · 07-08-2008, 12:11 AM

how much will one of the piggybacks help with a N/A setup?
I/H/E
is it even worth investing in? to help tune my motor to my bolt-ons?

soxfan143 · 07-08-2008, 12:57 AM

The only thing you would be able to do is lean out the AFR's. It would probably give you 15-20whp as long as you have all the bolt ons. Like I/H/E. You wil not be able to adjust cams and stuff or Vtec engagement.

Whocares05050 · 07-08-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by soxfan143

The only thing you would be able to do is lean out the AFR's. It would probably give you 15-20whp as long as you have all the bolt ons. Like I/H/E. You wil not be able to adjust cams and stuff or Vtec engagement.

You could also advance timing.

mitsukaiSI · 07-08-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Whocares05050

You could also advance timing.

only on the exhaust came though . . . unless you want to lose the "I" in IVTEC . . . im sure you already know whocares but for those that dont the intelligent part means that the ecu has the ability to advance or retard timing of the intake cam. . . if you change the factory cam gear to an aftermarket adjustable cam gear you lose the intelligent part

Slipp · 07-08-2008, 08:29 AM

15 - 20whp?
seriously?
the aem is only $400 something dollars - that seems like a lot of bang for the buck - im very interested in this now.

why dont more people do this?

***Phalanx*** · 07-08-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Slipp

15 - 20whp?
seriously?
the aem is only $400 something dollars - that seems like a lot of bang for the buck - im very interested in this now.

why dont more people do this?

because people are 'holding out' for a fully programmable EMS... we will get one eventually. but this could certainly be a good option for the meantime.

Whocares05050 · 07-08-2008, 12:28 PM

.... and then when they dont want to spent over 1000 dollars for it, and then pay a tuner 500 for a full tune, then they'll be complaining still.

***Phalanx*** · 07-08-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Whocares05050

.... and then when they dont want to spent over 1000 dollars for it, and then pay a tuner 500 for a full tune, then they'll be complaining still.

i was going to touch on that as well, but decided I'd wait for someone else to. lol... too many people that dont understand the 'gotta pay to play' concept.

Whocares05050 · 07-08-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Phalanx

i was going to touch on that as well, but decided I'd wait for someone else to. lol... too many people that dont understand the 'gotta pay to play' concept.

Yeah, lol. God for bid someone looks to buy the AEM standalone for 2k, the HYDRA for 2k, the MOTEC for alot more, lol.

1.8L FG KiDd · 07-08-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Whocares05050

Power is no good without being able to use it. Upgrade all of your suspension components including light weight rims, and stickier tires for better times on the track.

To better numbers i would suggest getting the car tuned with either the ultimate, or the AEM. a good tuner will be able to make more power. Once you have the tunning installed and available to you, theres always additions you could do. ( CAMS, Etc. )

Hmmm...lightweight wheels

No seriously...Mike I guess the basic question you should answer in detail is:

-What would be the advantage of getting one of these piggybacks over getting the famous Hondata reflash that everybody knows about?

Whocares05050 · 07-08-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1.8L FG KiDd

Hmmm...lightweight wheels

No seriously...Mike I guess the basic question you should answer in detail is:

-What would be the advantage of getting one of these piggybacks over getting the famous Hondata reflash that everybody knows about?

Well the re-flash is just that. A re-flash. All it does is lowers the VTEC point to 4500 rpm, advances the cam angle and raises the rev limit to 8600 rpm. You can not " Tune " it.

With the F I/C you can retard ignition and deliver accurate amounts of fuel. The F/IC intercepts the signal to the stock injectors, allowing the user to modify pulse-width by +/-100%. The F/IC is the only piggy-back system that can decrease injector pulse-width, allowing the user to drive larger aftermarket injectors* while still maintaining proper air / fuel ratios. This powerful system can also tap into the factory injector signal and work independently to drive up to six (6) additional injectors.

The F/IC has the ability to retard timing by intercepting and delaying the outputs from the cam and crank position sensors to the engine- with no adverse affect on applications equipped with variable cam timing. The F/IC can retard timing from the factory system based on engine RPM and load inputs.

* Copied from first page ^

Or you could also get the Ultimate. If Your staying all motor, either which way you go will be fine, but from a boosted standpoint, theres more options out there besides KPRO than people think.

How about Hondata reflash + AEM F I/C ?

autox41 · 07-08-2008, 02:02 PM

curious about this as well. do you need the reflash if you buy the aem f i/c

***Phalanx*** · 07-08-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by autox41

curious about this as well. do you need the reflash if you buy the aem f i/c

no they are 2 completely separate things that do not rely on one another... but you can use them together

Whocares05050 · 07-08-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phalanx

no they are 2 completely separate things that do not rely on one another... but you can use them together

Thats what i was implying

Slipp · 07-08-2008, 03:52 PM

i guess i just dont know enough about ecu tuning to make an informed decision about which product to buy. the AEM or the emanage ultimate. :/

if someone wants to help me.. im N/A right now, I/H/E - would like to do cam's n stuff eventually - maybe forced induction one day.

i do know one thing - i want make the best use of my current mods and any mods i add in the future.

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07-05-2008, 06:28 PM	#21 (permalink)
Civic06SiR Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: VA Posts: 4,487 Sam iTrader: 10 / 100%	Your missing the information from Hydra or Hytech? It's a type of reflash, but it's suppose to be better than K-Pro, allowing you to tune your ECU. Although it's very expensive, I think + 2K for the upgrade.

07-06-2008, 01:52 AM	#23 (permalink)
gzmo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 561, FL Posts: 1,853 Joey iTrader: 8 / 90%	Ok....I just want my car to go vroom vroom fast. I have an intake, header, exhaust, pulley's, "stiffy" torque dampener, and some stickers (+5hp). What more could I do to get better time on the track + better numbers on the dyno?

07-06-2008, 02:59 AM	#25 (permalink)
gOzP Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: hah your going down soon Posts: 16,025 I'm a Virus iTrader: 17 / 100%	this is wery wery good topic.. thanks bro

07-08-2008, 12:11 AM	#26 (permalink)
Slipp Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 29 Posts: 428 Dustin iTrader: 5 / 100%	how much will one of the piggybacks help with a N/A setup? I/H/E is it even worth investing in? to help tune my motor to my bolt-ons?

07-08-2008, 12:57 AM	#27 (permalink)
soxfan143 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lynnfield, MA Age: 35 Posts: 7,227 Mike iTrader: 6 / 100%	The only thing you would be able to do is lean out the AFR's. It would probably give you 15-20whp as long as you have all the bolt ons. Like I/H/E. You wil not be able to adjust cams and stuff or Vtec engagement.

07-08-2008, 08:29 AM	#30 (permalink)
Slipp Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 29 Posts: 428 Dustin iTrader: 5 / 100%	15 - 20whp? seriously? the aem is only $400 something dollars - that seems like a lot of bang for the buck - im very interested in this now. why dont more people do this?

07-08-2008, 12:28 PM	#32 (permalink)
Whocares05050 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SOFLA Posts: 17,031 iTrader: 15 / 100%	.... and then when they dont want to spent over 1000 dollars for it, and then pay a tuner 500 for a full tune, then they'll be complaining still.

07-08-2008, 02:02 PM	#37 (permalink)
autox41 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 430 Josh iTrader: 0 / 0%	curious about this as well. do you need the reflash if you buy the aem f i/c

07-08-2008, 03:52 PM	#40 (permalink)
Slipp Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 29 Posts: 428 Dustin iTrader: 5 / 100%	i guess i just dont know enough about ecu tuning to make an informed decision about which product to buy. the AEM or the emanage ultimate. :/ if someone wants to help me.. im N/A right now, I/H/E - would like to do cam's n stuff eventually - maybe forced induction one day. i do know one thing - i want make the best use of my current mods and any mods i add in the future.