NEED HELP....08 SI COUPE or 350Z

["Ridge"Racer]

Well, to each his own, im sure bmw didnt get where it got with the general consensus that its vehicles were ugly. particularly the new and much anticipated 1 series.

[Cbeyer2]

the new bmw's kinda look like crap to me... If the M's weren't so damn powerful, i'd say pretty much all of them are ugly... but i wouldn't ever say that because one of those high revving V8's will come to my bed and eat me. but seriously they kinda look like they are sagging in the middle.

[KManZ]

I love these Si vs. 350Z threads I said it before, will say it again: both cars are great. Look where you are in life and ask yourself what level of practicality you can deal with. One person made a good point: Z != winter driving. I am saving my money right now to buy a winter beater car... it sucks, but so does the Z in snow. Do you require nice interior appointment? The Si is better in that aspect. Torque and usable powerband? Z. Transmission feel? Si. Handling? Z.

There are pro's and con's to both, not to mention price. So, you need to ask yourself where you are in life and what you can accept.

Originally Posted by waldo08

I would have to vote on the Si also.. Too much hype on the Z... But if you want to wait, the 370z coming out soon... Looks sexier...

From what has been seen, there is A LOT to be desired in the looks department on the upcoming 370Z. But I will take a hit on the looks of the car is going to weigh 3010 lbs and put out 350hp (as rumored in http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6753). But they also need to offer the new Z ONLY in 6MT... that would cut down on the number of cars in the market, which is only good for exclusivity.

Originally Posted by Cbeyer2

but seriously they kinda look like they are sagging in the middle.

The new 1-Series is beast, no doubt the car is a solid performer. But the side skirts are horrendous, in my opinion.

["Ridge"Racer]

Originally Posted by KManZ

I love these Si vs. 350Z threads I said it before, will say it again: both cars are great. Look where you are in life and ask yourself what level of practicality you can deal with. One person made a good point: Z != winter driving. I am saving my money right now to buy a winter beater car... it sucks, but so does the Z in snow. Do you require nice interior appointment? The Si is better in that aspect. Torque and usable powerband? Z. Transmission feel? Si. Handling? Z.

There are pro's and con's to both, not to mention price. So, you need to ask yourself where you are in life and what you can accept.



From what has been seen, there is A LOT to be desired in the looks department on the upcoming 370Z. But I will take a hit on the looks of the car is going to weigh 3010 lbs and put out 350hp (as rumored in http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6753). But they also need to offer the new Z ONLY in 6MT... that would cut down on the number of cars in the market, which is only good for exclusivity.





The new 1-Series is beast, no doubt the car is a solid performer. But the side skirts are horrendous, in my opinion.

Well put brother! yeah, ive got some rendered pics of the new design of the "400 Z" i will try and post them when i find them, it doesnt look any worse than the 350 tho, but then again, here at nissan, looks arent top priority for some reason, look at the Si competitor, the sentra spec v, terrible little car, its not that great looking, but its quick for putting around town, and has more torque, nissan drops the ball on design too much i think. oh well.

and again, i say with the current z, ive seen more than enough problems with brand new z's for me to trust the quality. Way too many pissed of consumers. i could have one for well under invoice, but i dont trust the damn car too handle the day to day abuse i put my Si through.

[azcivic06]

The Z has more power and is RWD but in my opinion is overated. Yes it a nice looking car but the Civic SI is not far off and more reliable. If you plan on modding either car a Z is probably a better but more expensive way to go because of the RWD. Believe me, I know about driving a high powered FWD car, I own a Stage 3 SRT-4 that put down 321whp and 353tq on the dyno and on the street it's okay in certain areas when it comes to traction. Once this thing goes to the track I get wheel spin all day, I've never used slicks by the way. If your looking to not do much in terms of what I described above, I would recommend an SI

[User_name:]

Lol, far off as in performance? Dont think so, >>>>believe me I know<<<< I own both

[KManZ]

When someone says "overrated", what do they mean, like "doesn't perform as well as advertised or hyped"??? Honest question...

Originally Posted by User_name:

Lol, far off as in performance? Dont think so, >>>>believe me I know<<<< I own both

+1... well, my gf owns the Si and I own the Z Admittedly, the Si is one of the most balanced FWD cars on the road, if not the most. FWD inspires confidence, especially comparing the Z and Si. It's easy to lose the ass-end of the Z if you aren't careful in rain (or if your tires suck), so another point could be made that the Si is safer. RWD is a bit different than FWD when it comes to driving fast in anything other than a straight line.

["Ridge"Racer]

i think generally he meant overrated as in he doesnt feel that "you get what you pay for" but the same would most definately apply to the mugen si imo, i just think its a matter of preference in the end. The answer to the question of Benefit outweighing the Cost is only ascertainable to the buyer in the end.

[azcivic06]

Originally Posted by User_name:

Lol, far off as in performance? Dont think so, >>>>believe me I know<<<< I own both

If you read what I said, I said it's more reliable. I know it's not faster, I was saying it was not far off in terms of looks. As far as it being overated, it is. For the price you'd expect it to beat cars like a $20,000 stock srt-4's but actually they get their butts handed to them by the little ugly Neons. That's what I mean by overated and just like a previous poster, who works at the dealer said, they're less reliable than an SI. For 30,000 grand, I'd rather go for a 03-04 Mustang Cobra, which are consistenly in the 11's in the 1/4 mile or even a new Mustang GT.

[User_name:]

Lolz my wife drives a 03' SVT Cobra... And sry they are not consistently in the 11's, more like high 12's... So stop with the BS

Oh BTW I have beat alot of SRT-4's at teh strip.. I see them where ever I go bro, every little kid that works for crysler bought one, when they made them..<< I live 10mins away from where they were made..

350Z >Si in looks

[azcivic06]

Originally Posted by User_name:

Lolz my wife drives a 03' SVT Cobra... And sry they are not consistently in the 11's, more like high 12's... So stop with the BS

Oh BTW I have beat alot of SRT-4's at teh strip.. I see them where ever I go bro, every little kid that works for crysler bought one, when they made them..<< I live 10mins away from where they were made..

350Z >Si in looks

Maybe stock they're in the 12's but I doesn't take much to turn those times into 11's, so it's not BS. There were 5 Cobra's at the track in AZ and they all were in the 11's every single time down. As far as you beating SRT-4's all the time, I don't doubt you did or do, especially at the track. I know from personal experience, that is tough to run great times consistently from a dig unless your a really good driver and you have slicks, FWD traction problems. I'm willing to bet most of the srt guys you were beating were on street tires and could not launch correctly, I see it all the time. Much easier to launch a Z and that's why if I could do it over again would have gottena RWD car if I was gonna modify it. Do get mad bro, the Z is what it is, I think they're nice, my car the srt probably has more raw power than your Z, but it is ugly but that not why I bought it. It's cheap and cheap to mod and getting 321whp and 353tq is not easy to get to the ground, heck you would have a good shot at beating me but if I was running slicks, that would be a different story.

[User_name:]

Originally Posted by azcivic06

Maybe stock they're in the 12's but I doesn't take much to turn those times into 11's, so it's not BS. There were 5 Cobra's at the track in AZ and they all were in the 11's every single time down. As far as you beating SRT-4's all the time, I don't doubt you did or do, especially at the track. I know from personal experience, that is tough to run great times consistently from a dig unless your a really good driver and you have slicks, FWD traction problems. I'm willing to bet most of the srt guys you were beating were on street tires and could not launch correctly, I see it all the time. Much easier to launch a Z and that's why if I could do it over again would have gottena RWD car if I was gonna modify it. Do get mad bro, the Z is what it is, I think they're nice, my car the srt probably has more raw power than your Z, but it is ugly but that not why I bought it. It's cheap and cheap to mod and getting 321whp and 353tq is not easy to get to the ground, heck you would have a good shot at beating me but if I was running slicks, that would be a different story.

And that is why you bought a Civic as a DD... Nuff said


And BTW it was @ the track, and yes I beat them.... So take your dog and pony show somewheres else

I know all about SRT-4 neons lol I bet we have more per capita then anywhere in the U.S.. I see's them all the time dood<<>><<>>

[azcivic06]

Originally Posted by User_name:

And that is why you bought a Civic as a DD... Nuff said


And BTW it was @ the track, and yes I beat them.... So take your dog and pony show somewheres else

I know all about SRT-4 neons lol I bet we have more per capita then anywhere in the U.S.. I see's them all the time dood<<>><<>>

This the last thing all say about this and just leave this alone. First of, I bought the Civic for my father and it's his car, I pay the payments for both of the cars by the way. I joined this forum to learn a little about the car and will never be modified. You have the typical I know more than you snotty ass attitude that a lot of 350Z drivers have. You guys think you drive the fastest car in the world and the reality is that they suck. I've never had a problem with my Neon as you might try to belittle it and will walk all over your sorry ass Z. I get so much joy out of seeing the looks I get from people that think they have a faster and better car than srt4 neon when they get smoked. Now, I'm no expert but if you read online magazines like car and driver,etc, they were'nt exactly impressed by the performance of a $30,000 car. Does it look nice, yes, I agree on that part but is it slow for a car that was so highly anticipated when it first came out, no doubt. Now the Cobra your wife drives is a beast of a car and have nothing bad to say about that. Dude asked for people sopinion on what car to buy and I gave an opinion and you got all rattled because I mentioned something I didn't like about your car. You need to stay on you little Z forum or stay away from comparisons on a civic or Z on a Honda forum because you might not like what people have to say about it. I've heard every single negetive line about my car and I'm used to it, so keep saying how sorry they are and race someone that knows how to drive one.

[2fast4u2]

Originally Posted by User_name:

350Z >Si in looks

That's your opinion.

[azcivic06]

The dude asked for an opinion on which car to buy and I gave mine. I guess you don't like negative opinions about your car but you have to remember your on a honda forum and when you bring non honda's into the equation be prepared to hear it straight. This not a Z forum where you can get on and just gush about how great your car is. I know the strengths of my car and the limitation and can admit them. Try racing a Stage 3 SRT-4 with slicks and a driver who actually knows how to drive it in your Z at the track sometime, then talk about how embarassed you are that your pricey under achieving nissan got beat by a neon, I bet you wouldn't be man enough to admit it. My srt make a great daily driver and have never had any problems. The civic, if you must know, I bought for my dad because he's older and can't afford a decent car and being the good son that I am, I bought him one. I joined this forum to learn a little about the car but that's it.


FYI: Crap I thought my last reply didn't post so I posted again, my bad.

[User_name:]

Originally Posted by azcivic06

This the last thing all say about this and just leave this alone. First of, I bought the Civic for my father and it's his car, I pay the payments for both of the cars by the way. I joined this forum to learn a little about the car and will never be modified. You have the typical I know more than you snotty ass attitude that a lot of 350Z drivers have. You guys think you drive the fastest car in the world and the reality is that they suck. I've never had a problem with my Neon as you might try to belittle it and will walk all over your sorry ass Z. I get so much joy out of seeing the looks I get from people that think they have a faster and better car than srt4 neon when they get smoked. Now, I'm no expert but if you read online magazines like car and driver,etc, they were'nt exactly impressed by the performance of a $30,000 car. Does it look nice, yes, I agree on that part but is it slow for a car that was so highly anticipated when it first came out, no doubt. Now the Cobra your wife drives is a beast of a car and have nothing bad to say about that. Dude asked for people sopinion on what car to buy and I gave an opinion and you got all rattled because I mentioned something I didn't like about your car. You need to stay on you little Z forum or stay away from comparisons on a civic or Z on a Honda forum because you might not like what people have to say about it. I've heard every single negetive line about my car and I'm used to it, so keep saying how sorry they are and race someone that knows how to drive one.

A. my old lady in her cobra will smoke my ass.......
B. I will smoke any bolt-on Si
C.I smoke any stock SRT-4


Nuff said

[KManZ]

Lets keep the discussion focused on the OP needing an UNBIASED comparison between the Civic Si and 350Z. It's tough considering this is the Civic Si forum, and likewise the Z forum would be a tough read too, but at least stop bashing one another and making this thread into a dick measuring contest...

[Matt_Roze]

Forget the 350Z and go for a 300zx twin turbo (90-96). For about 20 grand you could get an absolute monster with a newer engine. IMO it's better looking than the 350.

[User_name:]

20G you can pick a good 300zx for 10-12k with low miles.. But your buying a 12-18 year old car

[azcivic06]

Their both good options but don't tell that to mr. User Name. It's a matter of preference. For performance, a Z. For a little of everything you get an SI, has back seats I might add. For puntang potential the Z owns but this is just what ever rocks your boat as far as what car to get.