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Old 04-18-2008, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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almost died ; <

so yah.. tranny issue.. but just telling u guys what happend .. don't wanna get hassled with "not another tranny thread"

sooo getting off the highway ramp and making a right onto the main street.. it was a red light so i had to stop and look.. i saw more then enough room to go so i tried going into first.. it wouldn;t go in.. i tried several times and it just wouldn't go.. it felt like when it;s locked out when ur above a certain speed.. but i was at a complete stop!! so i started rolling back so i popped it into second and tried to go but of course cause i was thinking:

"is my tanny giving me problems like the rest?"
"is my clutch all the way down?"
"but it;s not 3rd gear"
"shoot i just notice rev hang today cause i found out what it was.. is my car gonna be one of those from hell?"
"dammit why isn't it going into 1st?"
"ok lets go to second and just go"

i didn;t think to just stop and wait.. plus the guy behind me was honking.. so i popped it into second and gave it the same amount of gas as i would for 1st and yep i stalled!!! 3/4 of my car was already turning cause it jerked forward in 2nd.. and the gap was closing fast!! so i just turned my ignition again and spun out and managed to barely make it ...

i called my dealership and they said "that's weird, we're gonna have to make an appointment to get u to drive with a tech to see if ur driving it properly or if there is something wrong"

blah... so yep ; > yesterday was not a good day... found out i have some Rev hang about 0.5sec-1sec so not as bad.., and my 1st locked me out on a dead stop!

on the bright side i have no 3rd gear issues haha..

quick question.. i searched and no answer.. if u rev's are hanging and ur change gears while it;s still hanging are u wearing ur cluth badly?

that's my story and near death experience..
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Old 04-18-2008, 11:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ive had a 1st problem here and there. I mainly have it in reverse. I think its because my driveway is kind of slanted on a hill and I always park it in reverse, so maybe all the weight and force is messing my reverse up. What gear do you park in?
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i usually park in 1st or keep it in neutral..

both driveways i park in is on a slight uphill and i always park front in
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i usually park in 1st or keep it in neutral..

both driveways i park in is on a slight uphill and i always park front in
hmmmm...maybe your 1st is stressing
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maybe ; < or whatever locks out the 1st gear when ur over the speed is not disengaging properly after you come off the highway at high speeds
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maybe ; < or whatever locks out the 1st gear when ur over the speed is not disengaging properly after you come off the highway at high speeds
I think its safe to say its just junky
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I don't believe there is a mechanical lockout for first, it's just that the synchro isn't storng enough to spin up the input shaft and clutch disk to the ungodly speed required to throw the trans in first when driving fast. think of speeds like 20k rpm at 50mph or so, even if it would go in it'd be a retarded idea.

If you can't get into first when stopped put the trans in neutral let go of the clutch to get everything moving again and then push the clutch in and try furst again, it'll go in. When stopped sometimes things don't line up properly and you can't get it into first, happens with every manual trans every once in a while.
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^^ ahhh sweet.. thanks... i am still only 3.5 weeks into driving manual ; >

i will try that next time.. but when i freeze up i don't think and therefore didn;t think of letting go of the clutch haha..
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^^ ahhh sweet.. thanks... i am still only 3.5 weeks into driving manual ; >

i will try that next time.. but when i freeze up i don't think and therefore didn;t think of letting go of the clutch haha..
The same thing works if you can't get into reverse when stopped also. You will run into it some day.

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The same thing works if you can't get into reverse when stopped also. You will run into it some day.

Have fun with the car!
i have run into it but i was in a parking lot and i did lift my foot off the clutch now that i think of it.. i didn;t think anything of it then .. but now i know that is why it worked! haha

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when coming to a stop sign or whatever do you put it into neutral and then cruise to the stop sign? Or are you into gear until completely stopped at the stop sign
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I don't believe there is a mechanical lockout for first, it's just that the synchro isn't storng enough to spin up the input shaft and clutch disk to the ungodly speed required to throw the trans in first when driving fast. think of speeds like 20k rpm at 50mph or so, even if it would go in it'd be a retarded idea.

If you can't get into first when stopped put the trans in neutral let go of the clutch to get everything moving again and then push the clutch in and try furst again, it'll go in. When stopped sometimes things don't line up properly and you can't get it into first, happens with every manual trans every once in a while.
I do the exact same thing when I can't put the car in reverse. You should try doing that with your 1st gear. If that doesn't work, you should bring it to the dealership for a tech to check it out.
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when coming to a stop sign or whatever do you put it into neutral and then cruise to the stop sign? Or are you into gear until completely stopped at the stop sign
it depends.. but i usually keep it in gear and come to a rolling stop (bad i know) but when i see other cars i will just keep my clutch down until i need to go again in 1st..

i dunno if that;s the proper way but personally i find myself pushing my clutch down to stop and brake a lot .. trying to rev match and down shift more though.. getting there.. just practicing when i shift down from 6 to 5 and 4 to 3..

5 to 4 will eventually come ; > or even 6 to 4

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I do the exact same thing when I can't put the car in reverse. You should try doing that with your 1st gear. If that doesn't work, you should bring it to the dealership for a tech to check it out.
i shall do that ; > thanks
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ya when that happens i put it in nuetral, rev it real quick, then back into first.. it works all the time. i was told that if you go through the gears in order when you are comming to a stop, that wont happen, even if you dont let the clutch out in each gear, just move the shifter.
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Old 04-18-2008, 10:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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hey, not to thread jack or anythign but something kind of similar happened to me earlier. Went to pull off from a redlight and it stalled, but when i tried to restart it it wouldn't it took 3-5 times to get it started again. That wasn't the first time its happened, did it a about a week ago. Then one other time i got out to my car after about 2 hours and tried to start it and it didn't do anything, took 2-3 more times for it to start. I don't have a clue whats going on with it, but i am at the point of getting rid of it for something else.
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hey, not to thread jack or anythign but something kind of similar happened to me earlier. Went to pull off from a redlight and it stalled, but when i tried to restart it it wouldn't it took 3-5 times to get it started again. That wasn't the first time its happened, did it a about a week ago. Then one other time i got out to my car after about 2 hours and tried to start it and it didn't do anything, took 2-3 more times for it to start. I don't have a clue whats going on with it, but i am at the point of getting rid of it for something else.
You should def take it to the dealer but it might be the alternator.
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There's been one instance where I couldn't get it into 1st. I put it into 2nd and then it went right into 1st with ease after that.
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I have never parked my car in first. Always fourth gear and e brake. :) Your first gear is the most important gear, why would you stress it?
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^^^I had no idea that it stresses it... Im going to put it in neutral right now
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it depends.. but i usually keep it in gear and come to a rolling stop (bad i know) but when i see other cars i will just keep my clutch down until i need to go again in 1st..

i dunno if that;s the proper way but personally i find myself pushing my clutch down to stop and brake a lot .. trying to rev match and down shift more though.. getting there.. just practicing when i shift down from 6 to 5 and 4 to 3..

5 to 4 will eventually come ; > or even 6 to 4



i shall do that ; > thanks

Try and ease of the clutch a bit. If you dont always put it in neutral to go to a stop then I believe what Volvo is saying. Car might have a hard time figuring out what youre doing, so it blocks out first because technically youre still in gear.
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