I can't decide out of a 350z or SI

[24boosted]

Originally Posted by taffysi

oh rly???

Yup both my cars get about the same mileage, before my Si was boosted. Do you own both taffysi?

Originally Posted by k20redline

Brrrr O! No way 350 is no fun like Si! Its a heavy RWD car and its used so you dont know how the person b4 you drove it well you probably do which is not very well!

And 2877 for an Si is light? The 350z only weighs a couple hundred lbs more.

[firmhonda]

Wow, quite the pissing match in here. Cute.

Well, a stock si is not going to beat a stock 350z in a straight line with equal drivers, it just isn't going to happen. As far as hitting the course (a race with turns? ZOMGZ!) I think that it would be pretty good. I would definitely give the edge to the z considering the fact that Datsun/Nissan has been making the z car for over coming up on 40 years, and since the very first model they have been built specifically to tear it up at the track. Over and over again the z car was shown to beat cars way above its class. IIRC, when the 280zx turbo came out it was called the "Corvette Killer" because it wasn't only quick in a straight line, but it outhandled it without a problem.

However, the si has been made to be a track car from day one also.. The only thing is they've gone in completely opposite directions to achieve this. Honda went for the sky high redline to stay in the optimal end of the powerband, while the Nissan made the z to have a decent amount of tq throughout the entire powerband so you can get that speed that you need when you need it, while Honda has done this by stretching out the powerband so you can always be close to peak power when you need it, and still maintaining decent gas mileage in low rpms due to being in the lower cam profile.

That's my mindless rant, please stop insulting each other and try to make this thread more about facts than worthless "I beat this" posts.. If any member would like to point out the flaws in my post feel free.. Like I said, it was a mindless rant.

[taffysi]

Originally Posted by 24boosted

Yup both my cars get about the same mileage, before my Si was boosted. Do you own both taffysi?



And 2877 for an Si is light? The 350z only weighs a couple hundred lbs more.

Depends on how you drive it. I get 34mpg highway with my SI and I find it very hard for the v6 280 + hp 350Z to get the same. My v6 accord as its not an aggressive cam/high horsepower car like the 350Z and it cannot even go past 28 mpg. Nice pics!

[dc5jimbo]

Originally Posted by taffysi

Depends on how you drive it. I get 34mpg highway with my SI and I find it very hard for the v6 280hp 350Z to get the same. Nice pics!

my eclipe's gets 16mpg :{

[holy EFFING cow]

Originally Posted by dc5jimbo

my eclipe's gets 16mpg :{

How do you drive the car? I'm not attacking you-- just that number seems retarded low.

[dc5jimbo]

Originally Posted by holy EFFING cow

How do you drive the car? I'm not attacking you-- just that number seems retarded low.

hahahahaah i know right mostly drive it ffast but the most i ever got was around 20mpg misto u suck lol


btw bro i was busting ur balls just to get u mad trust me im not like that with cars what ever u like is coolz

[wetwily555]

comparably it would be a lot less to mod an si then a 350, but my uncles 350 is faaaasssssttttt as a MF on crack but i still think the si is just a more fun car to drive on an everyday basis

[holy EFFING cow]

Originally Posted by dc5jimbo

hahahahaah i know right mostly drive it ffast but the most i ever got was around 20mpg misto u suck lol


btw bro i was busting ur balls just to get u mad trust me im not like that with cars what ever u like is coolz

It's all good dude. It takes a lot to get under my skin.

Originally Posted by wetwily555

comparably it would be a lot less to mod an si then a 350, but my uncles 350 is faaaasssssttttt as a MF on crack but i still think the si is just a more fun car to drive on an everyday basis

To the orignal poster, if you plan to mod & are on a limited budget, the Si is probably a better choice for you. Parts are basically double or more for the Zeds.

[Kronos_32]

Originally Posted by KManZ

Low 14's? Incorrect. With a good driver, the 07+ are running 13.1 in the 1/4, STOCK, aka no slicks. I can get you a time slip as proof if you want. Low 14's... where did you dig that up?

Lets only talk about stock cars. Otherwise you would have to give the Z the same mods as you put on your car for any comparison to be valid. The silly ricer "my modded car can beat your $30k car" is crap. Lets be fair here.

Toyota Supra... your point? What does it have to do with a 350Z? You want me to admit the Z isn't the fastest car on the road. Surprise! I admit the 350 isn't the fastest car on the road. You win.

The 05-06 models run low 14's stock, maybe 13's but you should considering how much hp and tq one has it should. And guess what? the model hes talking about is the 05-06 one. Not in it to rant, but your comparing a 350z to an si performance wise here. Any simple minded person would automatically know that the Z would be better. But if you want to compare price along with reliability and other factors then the si would take it in my opinion. And screw the ricer talk, if i put 10k into my si to make it equal in price, I would run circles around a 30k 350z in every aspect. thats just something people say when theyre mad that their expensive lil sprots car gets beat by a honda civic. sorry that people are actually car enthusiasts on this forum and like to mod their cars. And the toyota supra in the other post was to compare it to the Z instead of an si(which is 2.0l, 139ft/NA). You wanna talk fair than put the Z into that category instead of this one. And yeah I proved the Z isnt the fastest car on the road on monday with only an I/E/H and tire combo.

[Snake-eyes]

13.1 stock on a 350z ROFL. Was this on an east coast track?!!? this tends to be the trend on this forum. East coast tracks are facing downhill with a 50mph wind at the back.

The 350z isnt fast..Its slow for the cars its against, it gets horrible gas mileage for a v6 average is 17mpg (horrible for a non-modded car), it has very cheap interior materials with no glovebox, they have a poor serivice record, and it has very poor resale.
(There my rant)
Also the G35 looks a million times better and in hearing this remember Jeremy Clarksons rule.
Anyways,
Everyone is talking about mods for the 350z etc..
Did anyone ever take the time to slow down and consider the most important thing?

Operating costs..

You can afford to buy a used 350z but can you afford operating costs? Can you afford a 1000 clutch if it goes out right away? Can you afford the tires? Can you afford the rotors that so easily warp from the factory on the 350z. Just think about that stuff...

Maintence on a civic is far cheaper.

[Kronos_32]

Originally Posted by Snake-eyes

13.1 stock on a 350z ROFL. Was this on an east coast track?!!? this tends to be the trend on this forum. East coast tracks are facing downhill with a 50mph wind at the back.

The 350z isnt fast..Its slow for the cars its against, it gets horrible gas mileage for a v6 average is 17mpg (horrible for a non-modded car), it has very cheap interior materials with no glovebox, they have a poor serivice record, and it has very poor resale.
(There my rant)
Also the G35 looks a million times better and in hearing this remember Jeremy Clarksons rule.
Anyways,
Everyone is talking about mods for the 350z etc..
Did anyone ever take the time to slow down and consider the most important thing?

Operating costs..

You can afford to buy a used 350z but can you afford operating costs? Can you afford a 1000 clutch if it goes out right away? Can you afford the tires? Can you afford the rotors that so easily warp from the factory on the 350z. Just think about that stuff...

Maintence on a civic is far cheaper.

I dunno where 13's came from either. but yeah G35 looks and is way better than a Z IMO. all in all SI>350z(especially "used")

[holy EFFING cow]

Originally Posted by Snake-eyes

can you afford operating costs?

yo

[nayilsi]

Originally Posted by Snake-eyes

13.1 stock on a 350z ROFL. Was this on an east coast track?!!? this tends to be the trend on this forum. East coast tracks are facing downhill with a 50mph wind at the back.

The 350z isnt fast..Its slow for the cars its against, it gets horrible gas mileage for a v6 average is 17mpg (horrible for a non-modded car), it has very cheap interior materials with no glovebox, they have a poor serivice record, and it has very poor resale.
(There my rant)
Also the G35 looks a million times better and in hearing this remember Jeremy Clarksons rule.
Anyways,
Everyone is talking about mods for the 350z etc..
Did anyone ever take the time to slow down and consider the most important thing?



Operating costs..

You can afford to buy a used 350z but can you afford operating costs? Can you afford a 1000 clutch if it goes out right away? Can you afford the tires? Can you afford the rotors that so easily warp from the factory on the 350z. Just think about that stuff...

Maintence on a civic is far cheaper.

lolllllllllllllllllllllll

[dc5jimbo]

oh lawdzzzzz go with the si

[txgriff]

I don't care what anybody says, the 350z is a BADASS car, man if I had the money for one I would def get it.

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by txgriff

I don't care what anybody says, the 350z is a BADASS car, man if I had the money for one I would def get it.

But I'm a z-car fan thru and thru.

[replica]

It seems FWD and no torque is concurrent with blazing ignorance.

[KManZ]

Guys, guys... I didn't come in here to bash the Si, and I didn't come in here to flaunt the Z. In any of my replies, have I injected any type of favoritism or fanboi'ism? No, I've only given facts.

I love the Si, it's a great car. In fact I urged my gf to buy one when I still had my Prelude, so I have had some time behind the wheel of the Si. Chill with the brand bashing, the one-upsmanship, and next time you try to arguew, bring facts to the table and not your hyped up personal preference.

Originally Posted by Kronos_32

The 05-06 models run low 14's stock, maybe 13's but you should considering how much hp and tq one has it should. And guess what? the model hes talking about is the 05-06 one. Not in it to rant, but your comparing a 350z to an si performance wise here. Any simple minded person would automatically know that the Z would be better. But if you want to compare price along with reliability and other factors then the si would take it in my opinion. And screw the ricer talk, if i put 10k into my si to make it equal in price, I would run circles around a 30k 350z in every aspect. thats just something people say when theyre mad that their expensive lil sprots car gets beat by a honda civic. sorry that people are actually car enthusiasts on this forum and like to mod their cars. And the toyota supra in the other post was to compare it to the Z instead of an si(which is 2.0l, 139ft/NA). You wanna talk fair than put the Z into that category instead of this one. And yeah I proved the Z isnt the fastest car on the road on monday with only an I/E/H and tire combo.

your modified car wins races, I applaud you. But do you know the true meaning of an "enthusiast"? Careful, there is a fine line between an enthusiast and a fanboi.

Originally Posted by Snake-eyes

13.1 stock on a 350z ROFL. Was this on an east coast track?!!? this tends to be the trend on this forum. East coast tracks are facing downhill with a 50mph wind at the back.

The 350z isnt fast..Its slow for the cars its against, it gets horrible gas mileage for a v6 average is 17mpg (horrible for a non-modded car), it has very cheap interior materials with no glovebox, they have a poor serivice record, and it has very poor resale.
(There my rant)
Also the G35 looks a million times better and in hearing this remember Jeremy Clarksons rule.
Anyways,
Everyone is talking about mods for the 350z etc..
Did anyone ever take the time to slow down and consider the most important thing?

Operating costs..

You can afford to buy a used 350z but can you afford operating costs? Can you afford a 1000 clutch if it goes out right away? Can you afford the tires? Can you afford the rotors that so easily warp from the factory on the 350z. Just think about that stuff...

Maintence on a civic is far cheaper.

I agree with you. The Z is more costly to maintain and operate. 15 gallons of 93 is a heart breaker. But where do you get all this non-sense about "easily warped rotors and failing clutches?". Drive ANY car hard and you will get the same things going out.

Cheaper interior= yes, the Si CRUSHES the Z here I love the way the Si doors sound when you close them, among other things.

Originally Posted by Kronos_32

I dunno where 13's came from either. but yeah G35 looks and is way better than a Z IMO. all in all SI>350z(especially "used")

I gave you time slips, kid. You need more?

Looks are subjective, so happy YOU think the car looks bad. Awesome, congrats.

[bigballer]

Originally Posted by MutantCheese

When are they going to redesign the Z? I'm tired of seeing the same old tired design. I saw a few spy shots of the so called new Z, but they weren't all that new looking to me.

something tells me i dont want to. nissans new designs are ugly as hell. new murano, new altima, new sentra. looks are subjective, but look at the new murano and tell me the old one didn't look 10000x better