I can't decide out of a 350z or SI

[holy EFFING cow]

Originally Posted by jpik2003

Get a new Si. I was in the same dilemma with an Si and a G35. Opted for the used G35 and have had many problems. Kind of regret it now. I get like 17mpg and I dont even push it. And parts are just so much more expensive.

unless its an 07+ 350z with the HR engine, go with the Si.

Wow-- how do you drive? I average about 23 city miles & 28+ highway. I use cruise control A LOT which definitely helps.

Originally Posted by kelmar

I think my Z is the best car I've owned!

As per my short time as a Z driver, I completely agree.

Originally Posted by firmhonda

You should contact the member here named holy EFFING cow, he just came out of an ep3 (totalled, freak accident) and picked up a 350z and the only thing he regrets is not doing it earlier.

I personally would go for the z. They're nice as hell, look great (especially modded), and, from what I hear, are a blast to drive. Plus it's rwd and has tq, which are always great things.

If you just want FWD I would definitely toss it up between the si or the mazdaspeed 3 if I were going new, or a used srt4 or ion redline if used were an option.

Anyways, that's my .02

Everything Firm's said is pretty spot on. It all boils down to what you need in an every day car. As I said earlier, I do pretty well gas mileage-wise-- about what most people here with Si's get. Don't let that be a disuading factor in your purchase.

The storage space is pretty lacking, obviously. I went on a road trip & fit a decent sized duffle bag, a sleeping bag, a 3' x 1' x 1' box, & two pairs of shoes & the hatch space was basically gone. I may have been able to squeeze something else, but you get the idea. I did average 31.5mpg on that tank (bit of a misnomer-- I was on a closed-access road with a 55mph speed limit for almost 200 miles).

One of my favorite things about the car, I'd say, is its usable power. I love being in sixth gear & should I need to quickly get around someone, downshifting isn't necessary.

I doubt I've provided any new insight, but that's what I've thought of off the top of my head.

If you have any specific questions, PM me or post here (faster reply with PM as I don't log in all that often) & I'll be happy to reply.

Don't forget the price of parts-- tires are expensive as **** on a rear wheel drive car, especially if you get into wide wheels. I'm ordering 10.5" wheels soon-- I'd ordered tires for my EP the day it was crashed & paid about $420 shipped. Tires for my new wheels will be about $850.

Originally Posted by dc5jimbo

si

350z= i kill them

Shut up, no you don't..

Originally Posted by Kronos_32

^^definantly no bite to back it up. If you talk about performance than no a Z aint sh*t right out the box. 300hp and 3.0l with all that tq only runs low 14s with a good driver.

[DUB2CRS]

Gotta have money if you wanna fiddle with the Z

[RRCiviC07]

[quote=KManZ;2603678]Low 14's? Incorrect. With a good driver, the 07+ are running 13.1 in the 1/4, STOCK, aka no slicks. I can get you a time slip as proof if you want. Low 14's... where did you dig that up?

low 14's is more accurate than 13.1... they run mid to high 13's at best stock still fast..lol but not 13.1 stock..

[holy EFFING cow]

Originally Posted by RRCiviC07

low 14's is more accurate than 13.1... they run mid to high 13's at best stock still fast..lol but not 13.1 stock..

The 07s are a different beast.

[KManZ]

The Z is a great car, I love everything about it, but I will be the first to say that there are faster, more economical, better handling cars out there: Evo & STi for starters, and for more bank you get into the Porsches, M3's etc. But keeping in the $30k range, what other car offers a good balance of everything? (Not counting looks because they are subjective...)

Also remember, the Z is aging; when it first debuted in late '02, what could compare? Obviously, 6 years later, most other companies have met and exceeded the benchmark made by the 350. The car still competes, but it has been surpassed, as it should be. I guess we will see what the next gen has to offer, but to dog on the current Z is asnine.

[KManZ]

Originally Posted by RRCiviC07

low 14's is more accurate than 13.1... they run mid to high 13's at best stock still fast..lol but not 13.1 stock..

Low 14's is inaccurate. With a horrendous driver, sure, I will give you that.
13.1 stock... I said before I can show you slips. I probably couldn't run a 13.1 in mine, but then again I have never been to the track. But for sake of argument, there have been more than a few drivers who have hit 13.1-13.2 in completely stock form.

lol



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[User_name:]

I have a 03' Touring 6-speed stock and personal best was a 13.8xx @ 104 and some change, that was 4 yrs ago... The problem in my case was with the stock tires, RE040's are junk tires.

[holy EFFING cow]

I generally hate dragging, but I really want to see what I can run.

[dc5jimbo]

Originally Posted by holy EFFING cow

Wow-- how do you drive? I average about 23 city miles & 28+ highway. I use cruise control A LOT which definitely helps.

As per my short time as a Z driver, I completely agree.


Everything Firm's said is pretty spot on. It all boils down to what you need in an every day car. As I said earlier, I do pretty well gas mileage-wise-- about what most people here with Si's get. Don't let that be a disuading factor in your purchase.

The storage space is pretty lacking, obviously. I went on a road trip & fit a decent sized duffle bag, a sleeping bag, a 3' x 1' x 1' box, & two pairs of shoes & the hatch space was basically gone. I may have been able to squeeze something else, but you get the idea. I did average 31.5mpg on that tank (bit of a misnomer-- I was on a closed-access road with a 55mph speed limit for almost 200 miles).

One of my favorite things about the car, I'd say, is its usable power. I love being in sixth gear & should I need to quickly get around someone, downshifting isn't necessary.

I doubt I've provided any new insight, but that's what I've thought of off the top of my head.

If you have any specific questions, PM me or post here (faster reply with PM as I don't log in all that often) & I'll be happy to reply.

Don't forget the price of parts-- tires are expensive as **** on a rear wheel drive car, especially if you get into wide wheels. I'm ordering 10.5" wheels soon-- I'd ordered tires for my EP the day it was crashed & paid about $420 shipped. Tires for my new wheels will be about $850.
Shut up, no you don't..



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really i find it kinda a funny that every d-bag in a 350z gets there ass kicked since they think honda is shitt i just laugh at that and btw its not just 350's but most of them are

[holy EFFING cow]

Originally Posted by dc5jimbo

really i find it kinda a funny that every d-bag in a 350z gets there ass kicked since they think honda is shitt i just laugh at that and btw its not just 350's but most of them are

I've gotten my ass kicked by exactly zero people since I've bought the car. Unlike tools like you, I don't feel the need to validate my penis size by racing my car.

As far as brand loyalty, I couldn't give a flying (don't kill me ethlar) about brand bashing. I've owned a Dodge, a Pontiac, a Honda, & now a Nissan.

But that's not the point. You never "walked all over Z's" or however you said it.

[User_name:]

Originally Posted by dc5jimbo

really i find it kinda a funny that every d-bag in a 350z gets there ass kicked since they think honda is shitt i just laugh at that and btw its not just 350's but most of them are

You got alot to learn d-bag....

[replica]

Wow, alot of stupid asses here. I own an FA5 and it isn't much compared to a well-kept stock Z. I've driven Cow's track edition 350Z and my impression is it will do everything better than my FA5. Maybe with I/H/E and some kind of Hondata, a 06+ SI would give a stock 350Z a good straight line race. Well good for you! You beat a stock car with your modded one, at mindless gas pedal stomping. The new SI's aren't great handlers either, my first day out at a local autox in my single cam crx, I was within a second of all the new Si's. Car is too heavy to transition and carry the speed of stiffer and/or lighter cars and doesn't have the torque to exit turns clean. Good thing I took my 18 year old car, and not my new SI, it's better left to my wife for looking pretty in.

At what point will people realize that cars do more than accelerate in straight lines? I love the Civic crowd that thinks it's logical to drag race. My FA5 is so boring I'm trading it in for a slower, FUNNER car, a 01-03 NB Miata.

Enjoy that FWD, enjoy that no torque, TERRIBLE DBW, grabby brakes, 3rd gear grind, cheap paint, scuffed interior panels, and a steering wheel that looks like a vagina. The Z has NONE of these problems.

If I still have my FA5 next time Cow (350z) is in town, I'll race him and get it on video and post in this thread again.

[dc5jimbo]

Originally Posted by holy EFFING cow

I've gotten my ass kicked by exactly zero people since I've bought the car. Unlike tools like you, I don't feel the need to validate my penis size by racing my car.

As far as brand loyalty, I couldn't give a flying (don't kill me ethlar) about brand bashing. I've owned a Dodge, a Pontiac, a Honda, & now a Nissan.

But that's not the point. You never "walked all over Z's" or however you said it.

im not pointing out a z in general and im not a tool im just making a point and its not to you stop picking fights with me like last time to buddy

[dc5jimbo]

Originally Posted by User_name:

You got alot to learn d-bag....

really ok

[HHondaZC]

SI is going to be cheaper to drive as far as gas/insurance/modifications/maintenece goes and with simple bolt ons I/H/E/Reflash should keep up with a Z. also if your gonna be buying it, honda's resale value is like 12% higher then Nissans (feel free to think im wrong as I work at a dealership and deal with this stuff daily)

[dc5jimbo]

Originally Posted by HHondaZC

SI is going to be cheaper to drive as far as gas/insurance/modifications/maintenece goes and with simple bolt ons I/H/E/Reflash should keep up with a Z. also if your gonna be buying it, honda's resale value is like 12% higher then Nissans (feel free to think im wrong as I work at a dealership and deal with this stuff daily)

lmao bro every body is wrong around here all day now lol but u are 100% right on that

[taffysi]

Originally Posted by 24boosted

MPG is about the same.

oh rly???

[HHondaZC]

Originally Posted by dc5jimbo

lmao bro every body is wrong around here all day now lol but u are 100% right on that

[MutantCheese]

When are they going to redesign the Z? I'm tired of seeing the same old tired design. I saw a few spy shots of the so called new Z, but they weren't all that new looking to me.

[replica]

Originally Posted by HHondaZC

SI is going to be cheaper to drive as far as gas/insurance/modifications/maintenece goes and with simple bolt ons I/H/E/Reflash should keep up with a Z. also if your gonna be buying it, honda's resale value is like 12% higher then Nissans (feel free to think im wrong as I work at a dealership and deal with this stuff daily)

Wow, so you've proved a stock Z can run with a modded Si, how is this something to be happy about? I still don't get how drag racing is the measuring stick of what a good car is. How much do quality I/H/E and Hondata cost? Enough to make up a large part of the difference between a new SI and a new 350z? hahaha

The resale of a Honda is much higher, so it makes used Z's extremely affordable and almost makes the idea of an SI silly considering the essential differences for the price. The gas arguement was already shot down earlier, insurance almost becomes a moot point when you're 25 and don't have a shit driving record.

I'm amazed people overestimate their Si's sooooo much. It's pretty scarey.