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Old 03-28-2008, 12:46 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I read something over on fitfreak that says when your foot is at 100% throttle, the dbw on that car makes it 73% throttle to save gas. Can someone with a fit verify?
you mean the fit can tecnically never be full throttle? or are you just talking about once it us up to speed. Cause if 73% is all it can do then thats its full throttle
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:50 PM   #102 (permalink)
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yea its like when people get a fit, and want to mod it, people are all for it...

but when people get an r18 and want to mod it, people say get an si...

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Yeah well one of the mods to the Fit would have to be a K20 swap otherwise it wouldn't me worth it IMHO, so there you go. A fit w/ a K20 and K-pro would be a thing of beauty!
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:52 PM   #103 (permalink)
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you mean the fit can tecnically never be full throttle? or are you just talking about once it us up to speed. Cause if 73% is all it can do then thats its full throttle
That's what I read over on one of the fit forums. fitswap or fitfreak. I'm not sure. They're talking about throttle controllers as mods to make their cars better.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:53 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Isn't the 09 fit supposed to get something like 43 or 46 mpg/hwy?
No way, our civics now have better highway fuel economy, due to gearing and much better areodynamics. Just look at the new and revised window stickers.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:55 PM   #105 (permalink)
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No way, our civics now have better highway fuel economy, due to gearing and much better areodynamics. Just look at the new and revised window stickers.
Idk about that. Any proof?
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:56 PM   #106 (permalink)
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you mean the fit can tecnically never be full throttle? or are you just talking about once it us up to speed. Cause if 73% is all it can do then thats its full throttle
This can not be.. safety wise its not a good idea. Sometimes you need maximum power to avoid an accident or something like that. Maybe what they mean is the throttle slowly builds up to full throttle, as in it wont go WOT right away.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:58 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Everyone that rates the Fit in any car magazine they say they love it. The only thing that you cant change too much about it are its areodynamics. They say becuse of its tall profile and lighter weight its more susceptible to cross winds.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:55 PM   #108 (permalink)
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No way, our civics now have better highway fuel economy, due to gearing and much better areodynamics. Just look at the new and revised window stickers.
Yeah but can you fit 4 people in comfortably or haul nearly the amount of crap around?
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Old 03-28-2008, 05:10 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Idk about that. Any proof?
Just do a quick fueleconomy.gov compare.

Auto civic - 25/36
Auto Fit - 27/34

MT civic - 26/34
MT Fit - 28/34

So the Auto civic is the best highway traveller. I'm guessing thats because the auto civic will rev lower while at higher speed.
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Old 03-28-2008, 06:29 PM   #110 (permalink)
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I'm not sure on the full throttle thing, however I can claim that mashing the pedal to the floor or just backing off a bit really doesn't make much of a difference; so there might be something to that.

As far as MPG, the Civic should get much better highway mileage with your everyday average driving. On a road trip from CT to Florida going between 75-80 w/ stop and go for about 2 hours in Virginia (on both trips, grrrr) I got about low 35mpg. I'm sure if I dropped the speed down by 10-15mph it would've been a lot better, many eco-drivers on Fitfreak.net get in the 40s for mpg. Around the city though it's really no contest between the two cars.

Also remember, the L15 engine has been around since the beginning of the Fit (2001), so all the gas saving is just based on the fact that it's small. Whereas the R18 is much more advanced as far as being efficient. So about the comment on the 2nd gen Fits, that MPG is pretty believable since it's still a small 1.5 liter but now with a lot of the technologies that went into the R18.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:29 PM   #111 (permalink)
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I think it's fair to say the fit is better than the yaris, but wouldn't you consider it's competition to be the scion xA/xD? How do you think it compares?

My GF has an '06 xA which she loves, but I think the interior isn't as polished as my civic. Seems a lot cheaper and more plastic-y looking.
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I think it's fair to say the fit is better than the yaris, but wouldn't you consider it's competition to be the scion xA/xD? How do you think it compares?

My GF has an '06 xA which she loves, but I think the interior isn't as polished as my civic. Seems a lot cheaper and more plastic-y looking.
The xA is going away, the xD is the new entry level scion.

Edmonds had a compare of the Fit vs xD:

Comparison Test: 2007 Honda Fit Sport vs. 2008 Scion xD

Results is the Fit has about 5 more cubic feet of storage space, and is slightly more efficient. The xD has more power and gets going slightly quicker.
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Old 03-29-2008, 04:13 PM   #113 (permalink)
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I did. Here is what you need to see.


Difference I see is that you have an 08 and I have an 07. Idk if they started to get their motors from japan after 07 or what, but it's worth looking into.
our 08 is 100% japanese straight from the boat.
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:57 PM   #114 (permalink)
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our 08 is 100% japanese straight from the boat.
No it's not! It's 70% canadian, 30% Japanese.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:04 PM   #115 (permalink)
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yea its like when people get a fit, and want to mod it, people are all for it...

but when people get an r18 and want to mod it, people say get an si...

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Right but the reasoning is because the Si is more sporty, made to be driven hard. The R18 non-Si is an economy car, made for better fuel efficiency. The Fit, until the next model, didn't have a sportier model. Now there is the Fit Sport, so you'll hear that next.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:23 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Interesting thread. Funny thing is, I've been thinking about the Fit a lot lately.
I don't mind the look of it, then again, I didn't mind the "mini-bus" a.k.a EP3s... But I am female, so apparently I'm allowed to like mini-vanish things.

Anyhoo, my reasoning to switch out of the Si and to a Fit would be somewhat similar to Nighthawk's.
My Si is leased, the lease will end next summer (2009). When that happens, I can either buy it out, or trade up, for which I've been thinking I'd trade for a Fit.
I don't think I will be financially able to keep this car, but that is a bridge I'd have to cross when I get there.
But the Fit is cute, mod-able, and quite versatile.
For financial or space reasons, I can understand trading up.
It is the new wave of econo-box, like the Civic used to be.
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:01 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:18 AM   #118 (permalink)
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the Fits do look nice.

Fit>Yaris
YES fit> yaris .... HONDA> toyota hahah well imo... and the newest yaris out there... is it just me or does that car look like a computer mouse? haha
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:32 AM   #119 (permalink)
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Unless I was going to get another Si or maybe a hybrid, I'd definitely get a Fit. I love the storage space, transmission, looks, and price. I've been eying the 2009 Fit, which I'd love to see in person. I think the Fit is a great car, and one of the better looking hatches from Honda in the last 10 years.
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because they look pretty damn nice imo:
My gas guzzler!
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