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Old 03-27-2008, 05:55 PM   #341 (permalink)
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it IS worth the time to correct! you should have said "ill buy this car on the spot if its twin turbo, and i will pay sticker for it".. then when he checks, ask him why he told you it was twin.. when he says "i thot it was" tell him you shouldnt tell customers things that you are "kinda sure" of, as that was a $1000+ mistake you just made, and you could come off as a liar to some people instead of just misinformed
I sold nissans back in the day, around the time when the Z's were introduced. We were thoroughly informed of every little feature, every button and its purpose, all that stuff. I'm sure Mitsu has a similar way of doing things. If that guy didnt know that a new Evo only has a single turbo, A SINGLE TURBO OF ALL THINGS, then he doesnt really deserve that commission does he?
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:54 PM   #342 (permalink)
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swang by the dealership after work today and the GM was telling a customer (Chinese lady) that the 1.7 shes looking at handles like a jag... :| HUH???
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:34 PM   #343 (permalink)
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Theorem One: The Salesmen Theorem

Suppose you have a car salesmen thats sells cars from price ranges [0, 50,000] and works at any car dealership. Assuming we are at a random instance of time we can conclude:

(i) If the salesmen approaches in a lackluster manner, then assume he is not making a sale.

(ii) If the salesmen falsely labels the vehicle as "extremely quick" and faster than a (random vehicle) even though it isn't, a sale will either be made or it won't be made.

(iii) If the salesmen appears to be making a fool of you consider the following options.
a. Pimp smack him.
b. Leave
c. Tell him he is an idiot.


(iiii) If the Salesmen knows what he is talking about consider this theorem inconclusive.

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When using this theorem please take note that its conditions are only prevalent for male salesmen. If
you are a single male or a young male, respect a female salesmen. If you don't fall into that category,
again this theorem is inconclusive.


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Old 03-28-2008, 09:44 PM   #344 (permalink)
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Soo, why didnt you educate him?
exactly

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I sold nissans back in the day, around the time when the Z's were introduced. We were thoroughly informed of every little feature, every button and its purpose, all that stuff. I'm sure Mitsu has a similar way of doing things. If that guy didnt know that a new Evo only has a single turbo, A SINGLE TURBO OF ALL THINGS, then he doesnt really deserve that commission does he?
exactly, but if he doesnt get commission from many, then how does he keep his job?
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:06 AM   #345 (permalink)
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exactly, but if he doesnt get commission from many, then how does he keep his job?
Because NEW salesman usually get paid 500 a week for the first month until there actually aloud to make commision. atleast thats what it is in were i live. Or unless the person sells enough cars to make more than the 500 for that week. usually the new guy will " probe " the customers interest, then get them into the dealership by saying something like " Follow me inside for a minute, i want to give you some time to think your investment over. Let me give me my card, along with a brochure outlining the vehicle you were looking at today. "

Then out of knowere the " senior '' sales guy, or the " closer " will come in, get the info from the salesman infront of the customers, and try to work out a deal on the spot. Usually saying something like " hey folks, im so and so with so and so dealership. I understand purchasing a new vehicle is a big commitment, and i want to make sure were are equally commited to all of your questions, and all of your service needs at this dealership. We have had numerous dealer awards for outstanding customer service, and have been around for 20 years providing that same commitement to all of our customers. For gaining your business today, i am willing to allow my sales asociate to take off an additional 1000 dollars of the price he just quoted you. Sounds good right? great, ill have him right it up, and if you guys need anything else, heres my card..... "

Assuming that the person was new. sorry for the long post. lol
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:17 AM   #346 (permalink)
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Well this is not a dealer but I know a kid who lies a lot...He is 15 and he tells me he had a 5.0 mustang, a hayabusa, and said he was buying a Ducatti...Anyway he told me there is a 4 cyl turbo mustang back in the 80's that runs 11's stock...I called him out on it right away. I said I will give away my car if this is true.He was like ok check on line then so I did and there is a mustang that came with a 4 cyl turbo with about 180-190hp...I told him the hp and specs and he was like are you serious? He is like that proves how much you know hp doesn't mean everything, so I agreed and said it is no lotus elise it's a mustang ...then I found the 1/4 mile times and it was in the 15's...
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:30 AM   #347 (permalink)
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Well this is not a dealer but I know a kid who lies a lot...He is 15 and he tells me he had a 5.0 mustang, a hayabusa, and said he was buying a Ducatti...Anyway he told me there is a 4 cyl turbo mustang back in the 80's that runs 11's stock...I called him out on it right away. I said I will give away my car if this is true.He was like ok check on line then so I did and there is a mustang that came with a 4 cyl turbo with about 180-190hp...I told him the hp and specs and he was like are you serious? He is like that proves how much you know hp doesn't mean everything, so I agreed and said it is no lotus elise it's a mustang ...then I found the 1/4 mile times and it was in the 15's...
welcome to arguments from at least 30% of car enthusiasts.. its so lame how everybody thinks their car (or one of their favorite cars) are the fastest.. just deal with the fact its not as fast as you think it is and find something else you like about it that makes it better, and if you cant, then why do you like that car in the first place? and can a car just be "faster" than another car? people seem to overuse the phrase "that would smoke it" or "it would rape it" when in reality we are talking about tenths of a second

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Old 03-31-2008, 03:00 AM   #348 (permalink)
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Here's one for ya. I'm buying my '07 FA5. I haggle with them for 3 days over the price. They tell me, "Its a rare car and highly sought after. Thats why there's a markup." I finally got my car for $21,200, but that's beside the point.
Four months later when the new Accord coupe comes out I go and look at them at the same dealer I bought my FA5 from. Out of curiosity I see how much they would give me for the FA5 as a trade-in. They proceed to tell me my car is worth $16,000 as a trade (with only 4,000 miles on her). As my jaw hits the floor, I ask them how the came to that price? The dealers response was, "These 4 dr Si's are a dime a dozen and not very popular!! We would just auction it off." I literally told the salesman to go **** himself, and left!
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:05 AM   #349 (permalink)
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When my girlfriend was looking at the new si i had to tell the salesman all that it could do and even my girlfriend knew more about the car than him. Also at nissan one salesman told me and my friends that the 350z was a 10 second car stock. and kia rios have a 0-60 time of 2 to 3 seconds

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Old 03-31-2008, 03:08 AM   #350 (permalink)
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Here's one for ya. I'm buying my '07 FA5. I haggle with them for 3 days over the price. They tell me, "Its a rare car and highly sought after. Thats why there's a markup." I fially got my car for $21,200, but thats beside the point.
Four months later when the new Accord coupe comes out I go and look at them at the same dealer I bought my FA5 from. Out of curiosity I see how much they would give me for the FA5 as a trade-in. They proceed to tell me my car is worth $16,000 as a trade (with only 4,000 miles on her). As my jaw hits the floor, I ask them how the came to that price? The dealers response was, "These 4 dr Si's are a dime a dozen and not vey popular!! We would just auction it off." I literally told the salesman to go **** himself, and left!
Thats why I dont buy my cars from any dealers dude. I usually wait till someone sells his barely used car and save myself some money and the seller gets more money then if he would have traded it in to the dealership.
Dealers HAVE to charge more and take less so they can pay for their place and employees. I stay away from them.
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Here's one for ya. I'm buying my '07 FA5. I haggle with them for 3 days over the price. They tell me, "Its a rare car and highly sought after. Thats why there's a markup." I finally got my car for $21,200, but that's beside the point.
Four months later when the new Accord coupe comes out I go and look at them at the same dealer I bought my FA5 from. Out of curiosity I see how much they would give me for the FA5 as a trade-in. They proceed to tell me my car is worth $16,000 as a trade (with only 4,000 miles on her). As my jaw hits the floor, I ask them how the came to that price? The dealers response was, "These 4 dr Si's are a dime a dozen and not very popular!! We would just auction it off." I literally told the salesman to go **** himself, and left!
was it the same exact guy that told you rare then dime a dozen?
if so i would have proceeded to take a shit on his desk or if i had gloves on shit in my hand and brown wash his 2 faced ass
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Don't ever trade in your car to a dealer, you'll get ripped off every time. Sell it on your own.
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Old 03-31-2008, 09:52 PM   #353 (permalink)
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I just went to the dealership today and they told me I did alot of work to the car even though all i have now is an exhaust and Hondata IMG. Than they proceeded to tell me that the problems with my car are because the bolts that hold the stock intake on aren't there.
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Took my car for service not too long ago. It was raining outside, so I pulled into the Express lane at Honda (its inside) they get in my car and open the window and then drive outside and to a work bay.

While the car was in there they where trying to figure out while the shifts where shorter and stiffer so they asked what I did to make the shifts better, I told them I put a Short Shifter and bushings on the car, they asked me if I wanted them to install the stock parts back on the car at a cost of 200 bucks.... I laughed and no I like it now a lot better than when I first bought her
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:45 AM   #355 (permalink)
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I doubt a salesmen would promote used car sales over new car sales unless he was a used car salesmen. New cars is where the money is at man, and they want to sell you them. This is a first.
actually, they make more on used cars than new!!!!!
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credit checks are stupid
just cuz you have bad or no credit does not mean you cant afford the car
just because you have good credit doesnt mean you can
but i guess modern society is based firmly on credit
which to me just means banks own everything
that doesnt sit well with me
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just so you know, if enough people do a credit check it WILL lower your credit score regardless if you buy or not
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On a side note, I test drove a 08 Spec V last week for kicks. I wasnt watchin, but my homie and my girl said that the salesman was gripping the sides of his seat as I was rippin thru 3rd gear.



You know they have a G-Meter in those things? dumb.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:05 PM   #358 (permalink)
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actually, they make more on used cars than new!!!!!
ahh....so true. i made $1000 off 1 used car when i was selling. the best i ever made on a new car without someone having a trade was $300 and $580 with a trade
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Aw man you guys are all about the salesmen! My friends all work in the service as mechanics....WOW there have been some bad things go on!

You'd be surprised how many times the techs forget to fill back up with oil, start the car, leave it running a minute while they catch a smoke break, then come back and realize they haven't pumped oil in and then do it. I mean the cars runs for a good 2-5 minutes!

When you pay the dealer 65-80 bucks for a "Honda" alignment, most of the Hondas and their dealer alignment racks only adjust the toe, camber and caster isn't messed it.

The guy that balances your new tires gets paid 9 bucks an hour like the idiot who fills up your oil. The wheel guys frequently do a bad balance and then the customers come back complaining of bumpy rides.

Ever see what they have to do when they fill the engine with WAY too much oil? they have to shoot it out of the spark plug holes. VERY LOUD. all because they turn the pump on and forget.

I've never seen a Honda tech use a torque wrench.
set the tow and let it go
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