8thCivic.com

Go Back   8th Generation Honda Civic Forum > Welcome > Driving Experience

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-01-2007, 02:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
marksi07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 70
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Driving observations. My old 05 RSX Type S and my 07 Si. Differences...

I've had my 07 Si for about 2 months now ( got it June 22nd) and on my way home from work last night, it got me thinking about the driving characteristics between my old 05 RSX Type S and my Si. Here they are. Enjoy.
The RSX is more responsive than my Si. Seems like the Si is tuned differently than the RSX. When driving, the RSX has instaneous response whereas the Si has a slightly delayed response. Is it b/c of their differing throttle responses? one drive by wire right? and the other electronic? I don't know. Ask a mechanic that question. All I know is when driving my RSX, I could immediately feel the car responding. In my Si, its more subdued.
The Si is by far and away, a more civil, easier car to commute to work in. Its A LOT quieter, driving with the windows down. You don't think about that when thinking about cars but you notice it. My RSX's stereo SUCKED. the 6 in dash cd was convenient but the Si's is by far A LOT better. The engine is quieter also. The doors shut with a more solid "thunk" similar to german made cars unlike my RSX which was just typical japanese. not that was all that bad but you notice these things.
The RSX would probably win an out and out race against an Si. My RSX had the AEM V2 intake so the comparison with my Si isn't fair yet b/c i haven't gotten the AEM CAI ( which I am plannin on buying very soon ). I think b/c of the RSX's slightly quicker responses, it would have the edge. If I had a twin and he was driving my RSX and I was driving my Si, I know my RSX twin would win the race. ( so before all Si owners here on this forum start sending me emails saying their Si would win against an RSX, listen.--if you haven't owned BOTH cars, don't think you know what the differences between owning both cars. That means if you think you know what its like owning an RSX simply by driving your friends' RSX, you're absolutely clueless and wrong. And likewise, if some RSX owner thinks he knows what its like to own an Si simply by driving a friends' Si, he's wrong and clueless too. You have to own BOTH cars to know the differences. slight differences.)
Commuting to work every day on I-95, the Si is a lot easier to drive and live with. Its interior is incredibly comfortable. Both cars have excellent manual transmissions and are typical Honda excellent overall. The RSX's leather interior was nice and I never had any problems with it but it just didn't have that much storage bins and being leather, whatever you put on the passenger seat, always slipped off. If you are over 6' tall, however, you might find the RSX confining. I'm 6'1" and even when I had the RSX's driver seat all the way back, it was still not enough. The Si was built to accomadate short and tall drivers like myself. I've mentioned this before but the Si's interior is basically an evolution of the RSX's in terms of making everything just more user friendly ( the audio and ALL the cruise control buttons on the steering wheel; the roof mounted one touch sunroof button are perfect examples ).
When driving, which car attracted more attention, was in my opinion, the RSX. My RSX Type S was the dark grey color and I had a nice medium tint done. I can't count how many times I've had other cars want to race on the road and how many times I've received complements on how good the car looked.. My nbp Si doesn't seem to attract that much unwanted attention thank god.
Every day I drive my Si and I'm happy that I chose to buy it and would in second do it again. Do I miss my RSX? sometimes. It was a great car and I never had any mechanical problems with it. I loved it and would have been happy owning it a few more years. ( had I not gotten my Si, I probably would have traded my RSX in for the new 08 Accord coupe ) The principle reason for trading it in was it made economic sense. For the same amount of money per month ( car payments and car insurance ), I could own a brand new 07 Si rather than my 05 Acura. And when you factor in that the Si's interior was 100x better than the Acura's, it made practical sense to get it.
Which car would I recommend? easy. The Si. If you are into racing and are more aggressive ( and stupid in other words ), buy an 05/06 RSX Type S and enjoy it. If you do a lot of driving and are in traffic alot, the Si is easier to live with so opt for that. If you are into modding your car, the RSX has a slight edge but the Si is still in production so its going to pass the RSX soon if not already.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
marksi07 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2007, 02:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
Kill Your Self Krew
Toys For Tots
 
Zeuceone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Killa Cali.
Posts: 44,789
iTrader: 19 / 100%
its getting late
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by dentrecords View Post
is Missy a squirter?
http://killyourself1.myminicity.com/ build my city.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Zeuceone is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2007, 02:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Burrcold's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 275
Chris
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Good comparo...I've actually been wanting to hear a "real" comparison, from an owner of both.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Burrcold is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2007, 03:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
Smartass comment here...
Toys For Tots
 
kpSTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Granada Hills, CA
Posts: 13,553
Name: Kris
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Decent comparo! By the way, Drive by wire and electronic throttle are the same thing.. Drive by wire isn't a mechanical cable attached to the gas pedal and then to the throttle body. It is a pedal position sensor on the gas pedal that sends the pedal position electronically to the throttle body to tell it how much to open. Oh and by the way AEM CAI supposedly aren't that great for our cars... Injen CAI seems to be a better choice.
__________________
07 FA5 NBP

CLICK HERE, to view my build (mods) thread!

Last edited by kpSTI; 09-01-2007 at 03:23 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
kpSTI is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2007, 07:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 45
iTrader: 0 / 0%
i had an 04 rsx-s, my si sedan is a definate improvement from the rsx- it feels nothing like it.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
pezones is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 12:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
sdimicko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 90
iTrader: 0 / 0%
I think I read that the k20 in the rsx was tuned to 210 hp stock. Which makes what you are saying sound right. So when you get the reflash I would be interested in how the si compares as far as throttle response. It's good to hear from someone who owned the rsx type s and how they compare.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
sdimicko is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 03:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
2000civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rancho Cucamunga,California
Age: 20
Posts: 1,399
Robert
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdimicko
I think I read that the k20 in the rsx was tuned to 210 hp stock. Which makes what you are saying sound right. So when you get the reflash I would be interested in how the si compares as far as throttle response. It's good to hear from someone who owned the rsx type s and how they compare.
That was from the old standards. In 06 the type-s had 201hp, 4 more than the Si. I have heard mixed reviews, some say the Si is faster, some the type-s, and some say they are equal. Idk, Im gonna stick with its a drivers race.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
2000civic is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 07:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
AXIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: So. Cal
Age: 27
Posts: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
paragraphs are your friend. haha. good comparison though
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
AXIS is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2007, 08:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
shutter13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,422
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000civic
That was from the old standards. In 06 the type-s had 201hp, 4 more than the Si. I have heard mixed reviews, some say the Si is faster, some the type-s, and some say they are equal. Idk, Im gonna stick with its a drivers race.
drivers race!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
shutter13 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2007, 10:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
nese005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: 614 ohio
Posts: 1,564
Panda
iTrader: 1 / 100%
nice comparison ! any pics of the si?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
nese005 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2007, 07:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
nastynogales's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 714
iTrader: 1 / 100%
BTW - in the Type S, are you able to hit 60mph in second gear? what do you top out at in second?

I hate how the Si only gets upto 57...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
nastynogales is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2007, 07:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
Kill Your Self Krew
Toys For Tots
 
Zeuceone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Killa Cali.
Posts: 44,789
iTrader: 19 / 100%
in a 05 corolla xrs you can do 60 in secind aswell.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by dentrecords View Post
is Missy a squirter?
http://killyourself1.myminicity.com/ build my city.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Zeuceone is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 03:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 84
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by shutter13
drivers race!
agree
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
pokapreak is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 01:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tampa/Gainesville
Age: 23
Posts: 1,612
Jason
iTrader: 0 / 0%
I absolutely LOVE my Si, but the one thing I believe that the RSX has on our Si's is the fact that the RSX were 100% made in Japan.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
AllShowNoGo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 05:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Leonard1818's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: OH
Posts: 2,085
Leonard
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Thanks for the comparison...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is thinking of (or has done) this...

Except I have an 02 type S....

I don't see why one wouldn't do the switch!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Leonard1818 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 05:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
rmfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 27
Posts: 3,309
Ronnie
iTrader: 2 / 100%
I had to stop reading because the wall of words really hurts my head. Try making some paragraphs so we can follow along.

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
rmfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 05:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Member
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Saint Marys, GA
Age: 22
Posts: 2,432
Jeremy
iTrader: 6 / 100%
i had an 03 type s and i loved that car but i do like my si better
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
jeremy0203 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 06:14 PM   #18 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
nayilsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: I have to return some Video Tapes.
Posts: 6,266
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynogales
BTW - in the Type S, are you able to hit 60mph in second gear? what do you top out at in second?

I hate how the Si only gets upto 57...

i did 59 on mine.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
nayilsi is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 11:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
RAI
Senior Member
 
RAI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 388
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by shutter13
drivers race!

Definitely.

I raced a Type S with headers and exhaust, and I actually came out on top by about half a car.

I run a stock sedan.

I threw away all my slips, so I can't tell you how fast I ran.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
RAI is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 11:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
VIP Member
Toys For Tots
 
Undispu7ed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Miramar, FL
Posts: 3,591
Jon
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Your comparison might have been a tad bit better of you put your posts in paragraphs and what not. With that being said, my personal experience with my old 05 Type-S and my current 08 Si, I would say the Si is overall a more solid car.

Si pros:
- Much more innovative interior
- LSD
- Type R style stitching
- Better audio system
- Stock to stock, Si sounds nicer
- More room in back seats

Type-S pros:
- Heated side mirrors
- Much more scratch resistant interior than the Si
- Rear windshield wipers
- Larger engine bay (more room for mods)
- More tuning options (That's because it's a little older than the Si, but this will change soon)

Everything else is subjective. Some prefer cloth over leather or leather over cloth, some like the looks of the Type-S better, prefer regular trunk as opposed to hatchback, vice versa.

That's all I can think of for now.
__________________

Hardships of my RR Si http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/intro...k-anymore.html
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Undispu7ed is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/driving-experience/55009-driving-observations-my-old-05-rsx-type-s-my-07-si-differences.html
Posted By For Type Date
Driving observations. My old 05 RSX Type S and my 07 Si. Differences... - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum This thread Refback 12-18-2007 01:26 AM

Thread Tools
Display Modes