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[White05X3]

Thanks all for the positive comments. Clearly the adults here can understand the potential impact on my credit score. Until you have something like this interfere with getting a home mortgage or the like you lack the perspective to comprehend the gravity of this situation. For those of you who say "move on" I will do just that as soon as I get something in writing telling me that their collection efforts have closed. I am about to buy another car and don't want this impacting that deal.

The main thing I want to accomplish at this point is to warn potential buyers away from the dealership. For what it's worth, I don't expect them to buy the car back. I don't expect them to do anything other than get me something in writing saying that I am off the hook.

But to anybody who is considering buying a new Honda in So Cal, please shop elsewhere.

[White05X3]

Following the advice of people on this forum I contacted American Honda. In not so many words they told me "sorry...nothing we can do."

So here it is 2 months later and still no resolution.

[PeterC.]

Well if its any consolation, I will not buy nor reccomend anyone to buy from Spirit Honda. They have horrible customer service from my own experience. If you dump your car, go to Penske, they are great. I had a slight problem with my car which I mentioned in the phone survey and before I knew it, Penske was bugging me in to bring the car in for an inspection.

[SiliconX]

Originally Posted by White05X3

Following the advice of people on this forum I contacted American Honda. In not so many words they told me "sorry...nothing we can do."

So here it is 2 months later and still no resolution.

Yeah. Dealerships are franchises, Honda America doesn't get involved in their financial stuff.

I can't believe they thought this is the proper way to handle business and treat a customer. I hope you get this rectified, it's complete garbage that your credit score is going to take a hit because of their mistake.

[TampaSi07]

LOL, your credit score won't take a hit at all. Just write the three bureaus the same letter of explanation with proof and then the people putting the hit on your credit will have to prove their case which they won't be able to and there will be nothing on your credit. I have done this numerous times for both my business and my personal credit as I have so many financial dealings between personal and business that what I really need is a CFO for the S corp.

That simply takes far less time and is a lot less stressful than trying to deal with idiots.

It amazes me that educated people can't figure out easy solutions to their problems. Instead they try to take a molehill and turn it into a mountain. That suggests to me there are ulterior motives and along with the suggestion for them to take the car back I think we all know what those motives are. The other possibility is just stupidity so I am giving the OP the benefit of the doubt and just calling him greedy. Otherwise I would be very wary of hiring an attorney who can't even get a simple financial error sorted out on his own.

[White05X3]

Originally Posted by TampaSi07

LOL, your credit score won't take a hit at all. Just write the three bureaus the same letter of explanation with proof

Otherwise I would be very wary of hiring an attorney who can't even get a simple financial error sorted out on his own.

And there you go...exactly my problem. It is all about getting the PROOF. Did you not comprehend my point? After all this time I have been unable to get any PROOF. My bank statement is not PROOF of their error. I thought that was easy enough for people to comprehend but apparently not...You see, because the collection agency violated both Federal and California law by not providing a copy of the alleged debt I am placed in the position of trying to prove a negative. Now, I don't know if you are a lawyer or not (but based on your post I would guess not) but usually proving a negative is next to impossible.

Further, how do you know that the credit bureaus will act in a timely fashion to resolve the dispute and not harm my score BEFORE my next purchase (which, for what it's worth, will finalize tomorrow)? You think they get my letter and put everything else aside and take care of my credit score first?

You presume too much and are frankly way out of line! I needed to get this resolved quickly because of another purchase I was about to make. I needed something in writing that I could use if BMW Financial Services raised a concern about this situation. Is that really so difficult to understand?

By posting this I just wanted to warn people about poor business practices of a bad dealer. Neither of the motives you erroneously ascribe to my post exist...You totally missed the point!

But hey...continue posting comments that would discourage people from sharing negative experiences so that others can avoid problem dealerships. That is very helpful!!!

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by TampaSi07

Yup, this is America alright where people want to cry and sue if you look at them funny. What's next, see a psychiatrist so you can make a good mental anguish case?

Sounds to me like you are just looking for an excuse to get out of the car (you'll never admit that but I guarantee that's the case).

I still don't see where he states that he is in fact suing this company for money. He/They signed a contract for purchase of this car and he feels they have breached that contract, so he just wants his money back and to return the car.. But since he doesn't have the authority to force the dealership to do that it must be taken to court.

BTW MidnightTex, was station was that on? I have a good feeling that I used to listen to that radio program.

[holy EFFING cow]

Originally Posted by TampaSi07

It amazes me that educated people can't figure out easy solutions to their problems. Instead they try to take a molehill and turn it into a mountain. That suggests to me there are ulterior motives and along with the suggestion for them to take the car back I think we all know what those motives are. The other possibility is just stupidity so I am giving the OP the benefit of the doubt and just calling him greedy. Otherwise I would be very wary of hiring an attorney who can't even get a simple financial error sorted out on his own.

Please don't breed.

[White05X3]

Originally Posted by firmhonda

I still don't see where he states that he is in fact suing this company for money. He/They signed a contract for purchase of this car and he feels they have breached that contract, so he just wants his money back and to return the car.. But since he doesn't have the authority to force the dealership to do that it must be taken to court.

BTW MidnightTex, was station was that on? I have a good feeling that I used to listen to that radio program.

Thank you. TampaSi07 is a moron...I am in fact not suing anybody. I just had a very short time to get this resolved and was trying to get people to act quickly. Tampa's entire analysis is off base because that person does not have all the facts. All of that is fine...I don't owe anybody an explanation since I am not here seeking assistance or guidance. All I want is to warn people away from the dealership.

That mission has been accomplished.

[midnightex]

Originally Posted by firmhonda

I still don't see where he states that he is in fact suing this company for money. He/They signed a contract for purchase of this car and he feels they have breached that contract, so he just wants his money back and to return the car.. But since he doesn't have the authority to force the dealership to do that it must be taken to court.

BTW MidnightTex, was station was that on? I have a good feeling that I used to listen to that radio program.

570AM KLIF

Credit Talk USA is the name of the show. Every Sat night, 7pm.

[tukai]

You should change your name from TampaSi07 to TampaxSi07. The OP didn't do anything wrong. Hope it works out for you and it's good you came here to warn people.

[White05X3]

Much thanks! I appreciate the support!

[KB1IOQ]

I hope everything works out for you man. TampaSi is just silly, I don't think he understands what your trying to say. This could have a large adverse affect on your credit score in the future and it could affect anything. From getting a loan for your kids to go to college, to buying your wife that new Lexus SUV she always wanted, to purchasing another home.

If you let this stuff slip away it will come back to bite you in the ass. Again, there are a lot of kids on this forum who didn't buy their cars and know nothing about purchasing a car other than mommy or daddy saying "sign here hunnie." I'm happy to see that there are other intelligent consumer adults on this forum that know more about life than jut the horsepower and torque of their cars.

[White05X3]

Originally Posted by KB1IOQ

I hope everything works out for you man. TampaSi is just silly, I don't think he understands what your trying to say. This could have a large adverse affect on your credit score in the future and it could affect anything. From getting a loan for your kids to go to college, to buying your wife that new Lexus SUV she always wanted, to purchasing another home.

If you let this stuff slip away it will come back to bite you in the ass. Again, there are a lot of kids on this forum who didn't buy their cars and know nothing about purchasing a car other than mommy or daddy saying "sign here hunnie." I'm happy to see that there are other intelligent consumer adults on this forum that know more about life than jut the horsepower and torque of their cars.

Thanks! I appreciate that!

[MikeColangelo]

White05X3, good luck in geting this straightened out. It's amazing how incompetent and/or devious people can screw with your hard-earned credit rating.

It reminds how my local Honda dealer (Lancaster Honda in SoCal) INSISTED on running a credit check on me when I was purchasing my Si even after I told them that I was paying cash. (Credit checks hurt your credit rating for those who don't know) The sales manager said it was for National Security reasons which is a blatant - and poorly executed - lie. I almost died when I heard that, LOL!

Anyway, good luck with taking care of this I hope you have a better experience with the Bimmer!

[White05X3]

Originally Posted by MikeColangelo

White05X3, good luck in geting this straightened out. It's amazing how incompetent and/or devious people can screw with your hard-earned credit rating.

It reminds how my local Honda dealer (Lancaster Honda in SoCal) INSISTED on running a credit check on me when I was purchasing my Si even after I told them that I was paying cash. (Credit checks hurt your credit rating for those who don't know) The sales manager said it was for National Security reasons which is a blatant - and poorly executed - lie. I almost died when I heard that, LOL!

Anyway, good luck with taking care of this I hope you have a better experience with the Bimmer!

Thanks man! I have bought 6 from the same sales lady and she gives me amazing service. I should send the losers from Spirit Honda to learn about customer service.

Hope to see you at the track soon!

[07 Figi Blue Si]

I envy your approach, eloquence, demeanor, and patience on this one. May the net present a single consumer the networking power to get his arguement across to 50 states and 1000's of readers, and may that power persuade Goliath (American Honda, Dealers) to cowl to the David's (consumers) we are.

I was so pissed about my tranny grind, that I filed a Consumers Report and I just received my JD Power new car evaluation in the mail. I will have fun filling that out too. May more follow your lead, and change the system where it is corrupt.

[E. Honda]

I'm probably missing something here, but couldn't you look at your credit report and see if the collection is still outstanding? If not it would seem you're in the clear.

[White05X3]

Originally Posted by E. Honda

I'm probably missing something here, but couldn't you look at your credit report and see if the collection is still outstanding? If not it would seem you're in the clear.

As a follow-up...I finally got something (more or less) in writing from the collection agency. While not as clear as I wanted, it will have to do.

There was a time crunch for me though...I needed to sign a lease on a new car before this got resolved and didn't want to take a chance on this error messing-up the deal.

I still think this all represented extremely poor customer service on the part of the dealership and would still recommend that people avoid buying there. In So Cal there are dozens of Honda dealerships and IMHO people should spend their money elsewhere.

[sgtpruitt]

Kill them