New mitsubishi lancer vs an r18

lightlypurified · 04-23-2007, 12:22 AM

I was wondering since mitsubishi released a new regular lancer with sportronic modes who would win this car or an r18?

http://www.mitsucars.com/MMNA/jsp/index.do

e60.deluxe · 04-23-2007, 12:50 AM

the lancer has slightly more HP, but is slightly heavier. i think they end up with practically the same power/weight ratio, if im reading the specs on weight right.

CVTs still arent as good as manuals for performance. they only really shine cruising at a set speed. id say vs a manual probably the R18.

manual vs. manual may be different.

Tiznonay · 04-23-2007, 01:48 AM

according to car & driver both the manual R18, and the paddle shifting lancer achieved a lousy 7.8 0-60.... probably comes down to a drivers race

truflip · 04-23-2007, 02:07 AM

the new lancers a boat..

Jardiniboy · 04-23-2007, 05:15 AM

I calculated the power to weight ratios for the Civic EX (Manual) and the Lancer GTS. The civic had the better power to weight ratio. Civc=19.2 Lancer 19.9. But the lancer has more torque.

CivicSiR · 04-23-2007, 10:22 PM

got one down on my to do list already..haha..its all about the driver GL if u race one..haha

Tastycakes · 04-24-2007, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

the lancer has slightly more HP, but is slightly heavier. i think they end up with practically the same power/weight ratio, if im reading the specs on weight right.

CVTs still arent as good as manuals for performance. they only really shine cruising at a set speed. id say vs a manual probably the R18.

manual vs. manual may be different.

Shouldn't a CVT be better at performance? In theory it can just hold the RPM at peak HP and just adjust the gear ratio. I dunno how good the current CVT's are tho.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 04-24-2007, 01:49 AM

i'd getthe new design lancer rally art than an r18...

e60.deluxe · 04-24-2007, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tastycakes

Shouldn't a CVT be better at performance? In theory it can just hold the RPM at peak HP and just adjust the gear ratio. I dunno how good the current CVT's are tho.

when adjusting the gear ratio, the transmission is constantly slipping, wasting power. the usefullness out of the CVT is that there is no shift shock.

CVT's are really meant to be an improvement for automatics, not manuals.

***Cybergypsy*** · 04-24-2007, 10:12 AM

The new lancer rocks, the navi is amazing all your setting for the car are on the navi, lights, locks...and it comes with a DVD player standered plus the bluetooth makes it a sweet package...

***Cybergypsy*** · 04-24-2007, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiznonay

according to car & driver both the manual R18, and the paddle shifting lancer achieved a lousy 7.8 0-60.... probably comes down to a drivers race

The paddle shifters are flawless, my son who only drives stick said he would get a auto lancer in a heartbeat...

MBK · 04-24-2007, 05:03 PM

those paddles are not true paddles like DSG, and i will go onto say that DSG isn't a real manual anyway (i don't consider it one without a third foot pedal). if you're going to get the mitsu, i say get it in the true manual.

***Cybergypsy*** · 04-24-2007, 05:41 PM

Would love too, but my right arm just had surgery and cant drive one for a while

MBK · 04-24-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybergypsy

Would love too, but my right arm just had surgery and cant drive one for a while

that sux... feel better :)

Kidekat · 04-25-2007, 01:07 AM

I vote for the Lancer.

My old MTX 96 Dodge Neon SOHC kept up with an r18, and its has 180K miles on the odo.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 04-25-2007, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kidekat

I vote for the Lancer.

My old MTX 96 Dodge Neon SOHC kept up with an r18, and its has 180K miles on the odo.

04-23-2007, 12:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
lightlypurified Senior Member Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,163 iTrader: 0 / 0%	New mitsubishi lancer vs an r18 I was wondering since mitsubishi released a new regular lancer with sportronic modes who would win this car or an r18? http://www.mitsucars.com/MMNA/jsp/index.do

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*Cybergypsy* Mini Me! Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 48 Posts: 7,436 iTrader: 3 / 100%	The new lancer rocks, the navi is amazing all your setting for the car are on the navi, lights, locks...and it comes with a DVD player standered plus the bluetooth makes it a sweet package... __________________ I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Best part of being a Mini owner....the love doesn't Fade!

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*Cybergypsy* Mini Me! Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 48 Posts: 7,436 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Would love too, but my right arm just had surgery and cant drive one for a while __________________ I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Best part of being a Mini owner....the love doesn't Fade!

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e60.deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lake Forest, CA Age: 22 Posts: 4,811 iTrader: 3 / 100%	the lancer has slightly more HP, but is slightly heavier. i think they end up with practically the same power/weight ratio, if im reading the specs on weight right. CVTs still arent as good as manuals for performance. they only really shine cruising at a set speed. id say vs a manual probably the R18. manual vs. manual may be different.

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Tiznonay Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 914 iTrader: 0 / 0%	according to car & driver both the manual R18, and the paddle shifting lancer achieved a lousy 7.8 0-60.... probably comes down to a drivers race

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CivicSiR Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Richmond va stockton ca Age: 25 Posts: 147 Mont iTrader: 3 / 100%	got one down on my to do list already..haha..its all about the driver GL if u race one..haha

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MBK Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Park Ridge Posts: 6,590 Mike iTrader: 3 / 100%	those paddles are not true paddles like DSG, and i will go onto say that DSG isn't a real manual anyway (i don't consider it one without a third foot pedal). if you're going to get the mitsu, i say get it in the true manual.

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Kidekat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corona/Redlands, CA Posts: 692 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I vote for the Lancer. My old MTX 96 Dodge Neon SOHC kept up with an r18, and its has 180K miles on the odo.