Where did the DIY seatbelt chime/beep removal go? - Page 4

***boost1320*** · 05-10-2007, 07:25 PM

why doesnt everyone just come to the reality that if a moderator doesnt like it, it is taken down. end of story. whether it is right or wrong, that is the way it is. conduct your business elsewhere.

just my 2 cents. i am going to see what is going on in more informational parts of this forum.

siwelk07 · 05-10-2007, 07:37 PM

i think some people are forgetting what we're talking about here. It's the seatbelt CHIME for christ's sake. Half the people who want to alleviate this annoying sound DO wear their seatbelts but feel its not necessary for the chime to go off every 30 seconds or whatever to remind them. Some people drive down a lane to their mailbox or simply move their car to another side of the street and dont want to deal with the stupid ding that Honda has implemented. On my 04 Ford F150 it gave step-by-step instructions on how to disable the sound in the owners manual. The person who posted the DIY has done nothing more than explored options on how to help fellow owners get around this utterly annoying "reminder." Its sad that their post was deleted because it was informative and gave a solution to a problem many people had inquired about. And isn't that what the internet is for? especially public forums?? The internet was based on the idea that we, as people, need an effective and efficient way to share information. Public forums are created to give people a place to voice their opinions, answer questions, and share information that they have gathered from personal experience. Given the nature of the internet, its going to be full of differing opinions, and thats OK. That's the beauty of the internet, anyone can use it and hopefully people will try to do it in a helpful manner. There has been many posts dealing with how to disable this seatbelt chime. People would ask about it and most of the time it would generate a response from someone in the form of "just grow up" or "just wear your selt belt." Well Im a grown man and Ill choose not to wear my seatbelt if i damn well please. Just because its illegal doesnt mean that I have to follow that rule. Just like i speed sometimes, and fail to use my turn signal on occasion. And it was really nice that someone who shared my feelings on the "chime" matter took it upon themselves to offer a solution to the problem for me and everyone else who wanted the information. Not once in any of the previous threads concerning this topic did a moderator say what would happen once a DIY for this problem was in the making. It's awfully sad that the whole basis for the idea of public forums was infringed upon. The whole reasong behind this being illegal and a "liability" is BS. If they're gonna say that then they need to draw a line in the sand and not let any threads concerning illegal activity be created. i.e. race headers, street racing, speeding, window tint, bumper height, etc. Where is it going to end? I was lucky enough to get the info before it was deleted and I will use the mod and ill be happy with it. I think if Honda wouldve thought about this a little more and made a way to disable it from the factory they wouldnt have people tryin to hack up their seatbelt harness and mess with the airbag sensors and fuses in an attempt to get rid of this nuisance. If you ask me, in a way Honda made this feature less safe because people who dont know what theyre doing are gonna end up disabling their airbags completely and that defeats the whole purpose of Honda's safety. I mean the thread and subsequent posts from members were deleted over a DIY to remove the seatbelt chime??? Give me a freakin' break.

Wether you wear your seatbelt or not I dont care. I couldnt give two ****s about everyones personal opinion on the matter. The fact is, that there was demand from a number of people for a solution to this, one was given, and his offering to the people was takin away. And on what grounds? Because its "illegal"
Come on, its not like he posted a DIY on how to make your Si chime like an ice cream truck and lure naive children. Now THATS wrong. This IMO isnt.

Johnbro · 05-10-2007, 08:07 PM

Well put

j0selikesb0x · 05-10-2007, 08:08 PM

actually my modification... does not interfere with the airbags or fuses in the vehicle... it simulates a person in the seat putting on his or her seatbelt... there are no modifications to the airbag system or anythign like that... thanks for the support everyone.. but im just a lil upset... because there are a lot of liable things posted on this website... and there shouldn't be restrictions on what you should be able to post... IMO

j0selikesb0x · 05-10-2007, 08:17 PM

also... if need be... i can make a new DIY with a disclaimer... and add a switch and some relays in the vehicle.. to make the install a little more professional (as some people are calling it "Ghetto") WIth the flick of a switch the relays will turn on and off the seatbelt switch in the vehicle... there is no way around the seatbelt chime.. as it is built into the multiplex of the car... as well as other chimes necessary for the car to operate.... such as the key sense... or else i would have modifiied the chiming noise instead... this is the only fix for the problem people like me have... i carry tools around all day in my passenger seat... as i am a feild technician doing alarms and remote starts at different car dealerships all day... and my tool box weighs more then 45 lbs... and my pass side light goes on all the time... i personally feel really uncomfortable not wearing my seatbelt..... but i think the deletion of the post was uncalled for by the admin/moderator of the site... one of the reasons y i joined this website... was finding out interesting fixes and stuff for my car... i used to have an s2000... and on the site s2ki.com... they did a DIY for the soft top being able to be put up while u were driving... definatly not safe... but its up there and its convienent... just some more IMO stuff

hondab1015 · 05-10-2007, 08:40 PM

siwelk07

bizzybearfigiblue · 05-10-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siwelk07

And it was really nice that someone who shared my feelings on the "chime" matter took it upon themselves to offer a solution to the problem for me and everyone else who wanted the information. Not once in any of the previous threads concerning this topic did a moderator say what would happen once a DIY for this problem was in the making. It's awfully sad that the whole basis for the idea of public forums was infringed upon. The whole reasong behind this being illegal and a "liability" is BS. If they're gonna say that then they need to draw a line in the sand and not let any threads concerning illegal activity be created. i.e. race headers, street racing, speeding, window tint, bumper height, etc. Where is it going to end? I was lucky enough to get the info before it was deleted and I will use the mod and ill be happy with it. I think if Honda wouldve thought about this a little more and made a way to disable it from the factory they wouldnt have people tryin to hack up their seatbelt harness and mess with the airbag sensors and fuses in an attempt to get rid of this nuisance. If you ask me, in a way Honda made this feature less safe because people who dont know what theyre doing are gonna end up disabling their airbags completely and that defeats the whole purpose of Honda's safety. I mean the thread and subsequent posts from members were deleted over a DIY to remove the seatbelt chime??? Give me a freakin' break.

OK let's blame Honda for making the seatbelt thingy make noise when it senses someone/something on the seat...

that thread was not deleted b/c it was illegal... but b/c it was directly messing with safety features on the car...

relating this to someone changing their steering wheel with a non-SRS steering wheel, considering that's safety as well, doesn't even compare... only b/c your not affecting other operations of the car just the steering wheel... disabling something like this, especially the way he did it by cutting wires affects future passengers and future owners of the car....

something this small CAN get passed inspection from a dealer... and they end up selling the the car and God forbid something happens to the new owner, then Honda is not liable for any problems they have....

you can kinda see how this is not only getting rid of that stupid little chime noise, right??....

and if you read the original thread then you would see as to how this might affect some of the safety features of the car.... b/c of the wires that were cut to bypass the seat sensor....

siwelk07 · 05-10-2007, 09:37 PM

im blaming honda for using a feature that forces people to have to mess with the cars safety features in order to get rid of the chime...it can be completely counterproductive. and what? every other modification to a car doesnt in some way indirectly affect a new owner? and yes this IS simply getting rid of that stupid little chime noise...the mod, when done properly only tricks the car into thinking there is someone in that seat...and guess what? when youre driving youre in the seat anyways, so what does it matter. and as for the stripping and splicing of the wires, it is possible to do it in a proper manner as well.

and please tell me how modifying the steering wheel to remove a factory airbag doesnt qualify as "messing with safety features on the car"

torch02si · 05-10-2007, 09:44 PM

A lot of people are not using precise language here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type X

He is a consenting adult and its his right to make the decision when he gets into a vehicle on his belt....

Actually it's not his "right" because it's against the law...it's his CHOICE

It is no more his right to hit the crack pipe 'cause he is the one smoking it and it only affects him'. Victimless crime I think it's called? Hitting the pipe, by the way, is about the only reason not to wear a seatbelt anyway...

You always hear about the one guy who was ejected from a car that erupted into flames...this is the exception of survivability, and not the rule...talk to an EMT...

I smoked a cigarette one time and didn't get lung cancer from it...I think it's a good idea to start smoking them all the time now because that one time I didn't get cancer...I'll just ignore all the empirical evidence that is available to prove that smoking is a bad idea...I think it's my right...

Is it that big of a deal? I have heard the sound twice in 15k miles. One time a friend of mine didn't put his belt on. He put it on and it turned off. He knows that I wouldn't be able to live with myself if, god forbid, I survived an accident and he didn't.
The other time I had my laptop and some other stuff on the front seat. I moved the stuff to the trunk where it belongs (in an accident this material could be flying through the passenger compartment whacking into people). After all the luggage was safely in the trunk, the beep went away. After all these creative solutions to the problem, maybe I should write up a DIY....

dust0ut · 05-10-2007, 10:05 PM

the semantics of this entire issue is really frustrating. I wish someone could just find a way to disable ONLY the seatbelt noise without disabling other functions.

Tastycakes · 05-10-2007, 10:11 PM

Find the small plastic speaker and take a lighter to it, worked wonders years ago on my annoying 56k

j0selikesb0x · 05-10-2007, 10:20 PM

like i said... theres is no way to disable otherwise... unless opening the instrument cluster and removing the light... otherwise you will be affecting the cars multiplex system...

**wing_gundam** · 05-11-2007, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnbro

not ness. when my dog is in, but i have people and heavy papers and boxes, and briefcasses and other stuff that i carry in my car, and anytime i put more than like 30 or 40 lbs on the seat it goes off, and i hat having to put it on the stuff take it off, put it on take it off, etc.

And i don't want to "screw" anything up, i don't know what all you have to do to turn it off, maybe just take out a fuse and then perhaps put it back it when you want to, i just wanted to see how to do it

This isn't true. For these objects specifically the passenger airbag turns off. Hence the light that shows you when that airbag is off.

If its heavier, use the trunk or the floor....

bizzybearfigiblue · 05-11-2007, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siwelk07

every other modification to a car doesnt in some way indirectly affect a new owner? and yes this IS simply getting rid of that stupid little chime noise...the mod, when done properly only tricks the car into thinking there is someone in that seat...and guess what? when youre driving youre in the seat anyways, so what does it matter. and as for the stripping and splicing of the wires, it is possible to do it in a proper manner as well.

and please tell me how modifying the steering wheel to remove a factory airbag doesnt qualify as "messing with safety features on the car"

if you read my whole post you would've seen the part where i said that something like this mod can slip past a technician at a dealership... something like a steering wheel is very noticeable and would get changed immediately...

idk if you know but when someone trades in a car to a dealership... if it's only a few years old then they put the car back to stock... if you put speakers in the car, I/H/E, etc... that's one of the reasons y u lose money when u add things to a car and try and trade it in....

as far as him cutting wires and making it "ghetto" that really has nothing to do with what i'm talking about...

and an FYI if you trick the car into thinking there was someone in the passenger seat and u get into an accident the airbags will deploy... and on these cars we have one in the seat/dash/headliner just on the passenger side... i've changed these airbags b4 on all those places dash=$1000+, seat=not sure on price but you have to replace the whole back frame + the seat cover + airbag in the seat + the seat sensor module (on side of the seat), on the headliner not sure on price either but u have to change the headliner + airbag + if that plastic piece (a-pillar)breaks too... ohh and you have to also replace the srs unit (airbag module)....

all that just b/c the car thinks someone is in the passenger seat.... this mod will only cost more money in the end and possibly even worse...

ffswizzlestick · 05-11-2007, 01:27 AM

Why dont you just wear your seatbelt? Then you will never hear the chime. I didnt even know it was there until after owning my car for like a month and a passenger didnt wear theirs.

DATA02 · 05-11-2007, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondab1015

siwelk07

Damn son, your rep reads you got a "blown head gasket"

for a k20 in need

dust0ut · 05-11-2007, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffswizzlestick

Why dont you just wear your seatbelt? Then you will never hear the chime. I didnt even know it was there until after owning my car for like a month and a passenger didnt wear theirs.

It's for that very reason I hate that beeping noise. I never drive without putting on my seatbelt, but I have passengers in my car quite often and they LOVE to take off their seatbelts before the car reaches a complete stop. Very annoying.

**webby** · 05-11-2007, 04:11 AM

make a petition at this link for honda to fix the issue you have with the chime. Tell them you want a work around or whatever you're seeking. Then post a link for others to put their name on the list and send it to honda.

http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html

the other mods have spoken about the potential issues with future owners of the car. It does in fact pose a specific risk with the way airbags are deployed. Get a petition going for honda to fix the issue and don't make a claim like "I don't like to wear my seat belt... and don't want to listen to the chime". If they were made aware that a large # of people were cutting wires to the seat belt harness to disable the chime, they may see that as reason enough to address the issue. I doubt they want future owners to potentially die because of a chime noise that was meant to be a reminder.... was disabled by cutting it.

***xtant21*** · 05-11-2007, 08:56 AM

^^ I think webby has the best idea right there.

When I initially replied to the first thread and then in this one I wasn't trying to stir up this hornet's nest of to seat belt or not seat belt...mod my car or not.

Simply put a lot of you that are reading this thread are seeing this as some annoying little alarm. I think there is a general consensus that the alarm is annoying; however, some people seem to have more ability to tolerate this in knowing that it is there for safety. The problem most of you are failing to see is that this alarm is part of a system as a whole.

The explanation given earlier of how to defeat this alarm does so in a manner that is not safe and in fact can cause worse harm in the event of an accident. The issue also goes deeper in that Honda put this in the car - you disable it but you don't re-enable it when you sell it and someone else gets hurt because of it. There is a rabbit whole of issues with this particular "fix". This is the basis for why this particular "fix" is being singled out. It's not about you wearing your seatbelt or not or someone here telling you that you should.

If someone isn't wearing their seat belt the air bag deploys with a lightened and slower force KNOWING that you are not wearing your seatbelt...if you disable the alarm buzzer in the manner explained earlier you are TELLING the system that someone IS wearing their seatbelt when they aren't...in turn they get blasted with a full-force air bag deployment...the safety system is expecting them to be restrained by the seat belt and they will hit the bag at a different point in time than they would have had they NOT been wearing their seatbelt. This could cause the worst harm of all if you know what I mean. The reason we have this two stage system today is because the automakers got sued years ago because the airbags were deemed to release too hard when someone wasn't wearing a seatbelt and caused worse injury and sometimes death. So to alleviate the problem they put in a system to determine seatbelt usage and deploy the airbags accordingly. Thus we have seat pressure sensors to tell if someone is seated and seatbelt sensors to tell whether a seatbelt is buckled or not. Additionally...there IS an automotive "blackbox" in these vehicles...it records events like a flight data recorder...including speed, seatbelt usage etc... That...is just a side note and FYI.

No one...not even the mods are trying to tell you to wear your seat belt...all I am saying and they are saying is that this particular way to "fix" this problem is a fundamentally bad idea. If you want to be mad at someone...be mad at me...I am the one who first suggested the thread be deleted before someone follows it and gets hurt. The mods must have agreed.

Again...many of you see this is "just the annoying alarm" but the way in which this "fix" defeats the alarm buzzer upsets other sensors that are there to protect in the event of an accident. In turn, this can cause worse harm. In this particular case, this "fix" is not just about the buzzer. This would not even be an issue if the fix explained did not upset other parts of the safety system. If the fix here simply did ONLY affect the alarm...you would not have heard a word from a moderator. In that case you are not making the safety system work against you...like you are with the "fix" explained earlier.

This whole issue should not be about what is illegal and legal...what to mod what not to mod...mufflers...dvds...and whatever else everyone pulled out of the air to try and bolster their case for their side of the argument. Replacing a steering wheel does remove the airbag and does reduce the safety of the vehicle; however, it also is an extremely visible change to the safety system and also does not affect OTHER parts of the safety system. That change is not affecting the safety system as a whole.

People really need to see this "fix" for what it is...and stop being upset and ticked off that someone is trying to tell you to do something (wear a seatbelt) that you don't want to do. Or that someone is trying to censor your feelings. Everyone needs to stop being petty about this and come up with another solution. One that does not affect the system...just the alarm buzzer itself.

Sorry guys...go back to having fun...I never meant for this to be the ridiculous argument that it is. Even if you don't agree with me...let's just drop this thing already...it is getting none of us anywhere. The best thing to do is petition Honda like Webby said or find a method that deals with the buzzer only...not the system. Ok? That's all we're asking.

siwelk07 · 05-11-2007, 12:58 PM

this "wear your seatbelt" fanaticism is completely ridiculous

people need to realize that i have just as much right to choose to not wear my seatbelt as other people have to choose to wear theirs. this topic has never been about whether people do or do not wear their seatbelt, but how to fix the dinging sound associated with the safety feature. the plain and simple truth is that if someone chooses to do this to their car, thats their choice and they probably know the risks and dont need to be preached at...im sure we all have mothers to do that already

im gonna try to do this mod this weekend...for those of you who are interested pm me and ill let you know the results

05-10-2007, 07:25 PM	#61 (permalink)
*boost1320* She'll cut you Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 26 Posts: 2,526 Brian iTrader: 3 / 100%	why doesnt everyone just come to the reality that if a moderator doesnt like it, it is taken down. end of story. whether it is right or wrong, that is the way it is. conduct your business elsewhere. just my 2 cents. i am going to see what is going on in more informational parts of this forum. Last edited by boost1320; 05-10-2007 at 10:08 PM.

05-10-2007, 07:37 PM	#62 (permalink)
siwelk07 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 98 Kyle iTrader: 1 / 100%	i think some people are forgetting what we're talking about here. It's the seatbelt CHIME for christ's sake. Half the people who want to alleviate this annoying sound DO wear their seatbelts but feel its not necessary for the chime to go off every 30 seconds or whatever to remind them. Some people drive down a lane to their mailbox or simply move their car to another side of the street and dont want to deal with the stupid ding that Honda has implemented. On my 04 Ford F150 it gave step-by-step instructions on how to disable the sound in the owners manual. The person who posted the DIY has done nothing more than explored options on how to help fellow owners get around this utterly annoying "reminder." Its sad that their post was deleted because it was informative and gave a solution to a problem many people had inquired about. And isn't that what the internet is for? especially public forums?? The internet was based on the idea that we, as people, need an effective and efficient way to share information. Public forums are created to give people a place to voice their opinions, answer questions, and share information that they have gathered from personal experience. Given the nature of the internet, its going to be full of differing opinions, and thats OK. That's the beauty of the internet, anyone can use it and hopefully people will try to do it in a helpful manner. There has been many posts dealing with how to disable this seatbelt chime. People would ask about it and most of the time it would generate a response from someone in the form of "just grow up" or "just wear your selt belt." Well Im a grown man and Ill choose not to wear my seatbelt if i damn well please. Just because its illegal doesnt mean that I have to follow that rule. Just like i speed sometimes, and fail to use my turn signal on occasion. And it was really nice that someone who shared my feelings on the "chime" matter took it upon themselves to offer a solution to the problem for me and everyone else who wanted the information. Not once in any of the previous threads concerning this topic did a moderator say what would happen once a DIY for this problem was in the making. It's awfully sad that the whole basis for the idea of public forums was infringed upon. The whole reasong behind this being illegal and a "liability" is BS. If they're gonna say that then they need to draw a line in the sand and not let any threads concerning illegal activity be created. i.e. race headers, street racing, speeding, window tint, bumper height, etc. Where is it going to end? I was lucky enough to get the info before it was deleted and I will use the mod and ill be happy with it. I think if Honda wouldve thought about this a little more and made a way to disable it from the factory they wouldnt have people tryin to hack up their seatbelt harness and mess with the airbag sensors and fuses in an attempt to get rid of this nuisance. If you ask me, in a way Honda made this feature less safe because people who dont know what theyre doing are gonna end up disabling their airbags completely and that defeats the whole purpose of Honda's safety. I mean the thread and subsequent posts from members were deleted over a DIY to remove the seatbelt chime??? Give me a freakin' break. Wether you wear your seatbelt or not I dont care. I couldnt give two ***s about everyones personal opinion on the matter. The fact is, that there was demand from a number of people for a solution to this, one was given, and his offering to the people was takin away. And on what grounds? Because its "illegal" Come on, its not like he posted a DIY on how to make your Si chime like an ice cream truck and lure naive children. Now THATS wrong. This IMO isnt. Last edited by siwelk07; 05-10-2007 at 07:44 PM.*

05-11-2007, 08:56 AM	#79 (permalink)
*xtant21* Philawarepragacago Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida Posts: 817 Bill iTrader: 0 / 0%	^^ I think webby has the best idea right there. When I initially replied to the first thread and then in this one I wasn't trying to stir up this hornet's nest of to seat belt or not seat belt...mod my car or not. Simply put a lot of you that are reading this thread are seeing this as some annoying little alarm. I think there is a general consensus that the alarm is annoying; however, some people seem to have more ability to tolerate this in knowing that it is there for safety. The problem most of you are failing to see is that this alarm is part of a system as a whole. The explanation given earlier of how to defeat this alarm does so in a manner that is not safe and in fact can cause worse harm in the event of an accident. The issue also goes deeper in that Honda put this in the car - you disable it but you don't re-enable it when you sell it and someone else gets hurt because of it. There is a rabbit whole of issues with this particular "fix". This is the basis for why this particular "fix" is being singled out. It's not about you wearing your seatbelt or not or someone here telling you that you should. If someone isn't wearing their seat belt the air bag deploys with a lightened and slower force KNOWING that you are not wearing your seatbelt...if you disable the alarm buzzer in the manner explained earlier you are TELLING the system that someone IS wearing their seatbelt when they aren't...in turn they get blasted with a full-force air bag deployment...the safety system is expecting them to be restrained by the seat belt and they will hit the bag at a different point in time than they would have had they NOT been wearing their seatbelt. This could cause the worst harm of all if you know what I mean. The reason we have this two stage system today is because the automakers got sued years ago because the airbags were deemed to release too hard when someone wasn't wearing a seatbelt and caused worse injury and sometimes death. So to alleviate the problem they put in a system to determine seatbelt usage and deploy the airbags accordingly. Thus we have seat pressure sensors to tell if someone is seated and seatbelt sensors to tell whether a seatbelt is buckled or not. Additionally...there IS an automotive "blackbox" in these vehicles...it records events like a flight data recorder...including speed, seatbelt usage etc... That...is just a side note and FYI. No one...not even the mods are trying to tell you to wear your seat belt...all I am saying and they are saying is that this particular way to "fix" this problem is a fundamentally bad idea. If you want to be mad at someone...be mad at me...I am the one who first suggested the thread be deleted before someone follows it and gets hurt. The mods must have agreed. Again...many of you see this is "just the annoying alarm" but the way in which this "fix" defeats the alarm buzzer upsets other sensors that are there to protect in the event of an accident. In turn, this can cause worse harm. *In this particular case, this "fix" is not just* about the buzzer.** This would not even be an issue if the fix explained did not upset other parts of the safety system. If the fix here simply did ONLY affect the alarm...you would not have heard a word from a moderator. In that case you are not making the safety system work against you...like you are with the "fix" explained earlier. This whole issue should not be about what is illegal and legal...what to mod what not to mod...mufflers...dvds...and whatever else everyone pulled out of the air to try and bolster their case for their side of the argument. Replacing a steering wheel does remove the airbag and does reduce the safety of the vehicle; however, it also is an extremely visible change to the safety system and also does not affect OTHER parts of the safety system. That change is not affecting the safety system as a whole. People really need to see this "fix" for what it is...and stop being upset and ticked off that someone is trying to tell you to do something (wear a seatbelt) that you don't want to do. Or that someone is trying to censor your feelings. Everyone needs to stop being petty about this and come up with another solution. One that does not affect the system...just the alarm buzzer itself. Sorry guys...go back to having fun...I never meant for this to be the ridiculous argument that it is. Even if you don't agree with me...let's just drop this thing already...it is getting none of us anywhere. The best thing to do is petition Honda like Webby said or find a method that deals with the buzzer only...not the system. Ok? That's all we're asking. Last edited by xtant21; 05-11-2007 at 09:13 AM.

05-11-2007, 12:58 PM	#80 (permalink)
siwelk07 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 98 Kyle iTrader: 1 / 100%	this "wear your seatbelt" fanaticism is completely ridiculous people need to realize that i have just as much right to choose to not wear my seatbelt as other people have to choose to wear theirs. this topic has never been about whether people do or do not wear their seatbelt, but how to fix the dinging sound associated with the safety feature. the plain and simple truth is that if someone chooses to do this to their car, thats their choice and they probably know the risks and dont need to be preached at...im sure we all have mothers to do that already im gonna try to do this mod this weekend...for those of you who are interested pm me and ill let you know the results Last edited by siwelk07; 05-11-2007 at 01:06 PM.

05-10-2007, 08:07 PM	#63 (permalink)
Johnbro Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Wort Texas Age: 20 Posts: 691 John iTrader: 0 / 0%	Well put

05-10-2007, 08:08 PM	#64 (permalink)
j0selikesb0x Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 130 Jose iTrader: 0 / 0%	actually my modification... does not interfere with the airbags or fuses in the vehicle... it simulates a person in the seat putting on his or her seatbelt... there are no modifications to the airbag system or anythign like that... thanks for the support everyone.. but im just a lil upset... because there are a lot of liable things posted on this website... and there shouldn't be restrictions on what you should be able to post... IMO

05-10-2007, 08:17 PM	#65 (permalink)
j0selikesb0x Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 130 Jose iTrader: 0 / 0%	also... if need be... i can make a new DIY with a disclaimer... and add a switch and some relays in the vehicle.. to make the install a little more professional (as some people are calling it "Ghetto") WIth the flick of a switch the relays will turn on and off the seatbelt switch in the vehicle... there is no way around the seatbelt chime.. as it is built into the multiplex of the car... as well as other chimes necessary for the car to operate.... such as the key sense... or else i would have modifiied the chiming noise instead... this is the only fix for the problem people like me have... i carry tools around all day in my passenger seat... as i am a feild technician doing alarms and remote starts at different car dealerships all day... and my tool box weighs more then 45 lbs... and my pass side light goes on all the time... i personally feel really uncomfortable not wearing my seatbelt..... but i think the deletion of the post was uncalled for by the admin/moderator of the site... one of the reasons y i joined this website... was finding out interesting fixes and stuff for my car... i used to have an s2000... and on the site s2ki.com... they did a DIY for the soft top being able to be put up while u were driving... definatly not safe... but its up there and its convienent... just some more IMO stuff

05-10-2007, 08:40 PM	#66 (permalink)
hondab1015 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 68 iTrader: 1 / 100%	siwelk07

05-10-2007, 09:37 PM	#68 (permalink)
siwelk07 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 98 Kyle iTrader: 1 / 100%	im blaming honda for using a feature that forces people to have to mess with the cars safety features in order to get rid of the chime...it can be completely counterproductive. and what? every other modification to a car doesnt in some way indirectly affect a new owner? and yes this IS simply getting rid of that stupid little chime noise...the mod, when done properly only tricks the car into thinking there is someone in that seat...and guess what? when youre driving youre in the seat anyways, so what does it matter. and as for the stripping and splicing of the wires, it is possible to do it in a proper manner as well. and please tell me how modifying the steering wheel to remove a factory airbag doesnt qualify as "messing with safety features on the car"

05-10-2007, 10:05 PM	#70 (permalink)
dust0ut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: HoCo, Maryland...Santa Monica,CA Age: 20 Posts: 358 Dustin iTrader: 2 / 100%	the semantics of this entire issue is really frustrating. I wish someone could just find a way to disable ONLY the seatbelt noise without disabling other functions.

05-10-2007, 10:11 PM	#71 (permalink)
Tastycakes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Libertyville, IL Age: 24 Posts: 2,522 Mike iTrader: 0 / 0%	Find the small plastic speaker and take a lighter to it, worked wonders years ago on my annoying 56k

05-10-2007, 10:20 PM	#72 (permalink)
j0selikesb0x Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 130 Jose iTrader: 0 / 0%	like i said... theres is no way to disable otherwise... unless opening the instrument cluster and removing the light... otherwise you will be affecting the cars multiplex system...

05-11-2007, 01:27 AM	#75 (permalink)
ffswizzlestick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lisle, IL Posts: 574 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Why dont you just wear your seatbelt? Then you will never hear the chime. I didnt even know it was there until after owning my car for like a month and a passenger didnt wear theirs.

05-11-2007, 04:11 AM	#78 (permalink)
webby Acorns! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Storage Room B Posts: 11,487 iTrader: 10 / 100%	make a petition at this link for honda to fix the issue you have with the chime. Tell them you want a work around or whatever you're seeking. Then post a link for others to put their name on the list and send it to honda. http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html the other mods have spoken about the potential issues with future owners of the car. It does in fact pose a specific risk with the way airbags are deployed. Get a petition going for honda to fix the issue and don't make a claim like "I don't like to wear my seat belt... and don't want to listen to the chime". If they were made aware that a large # of people were cutting wires to the seat belt harness to disable the chime, they may see that as reason enough to address the issue. I doubt they want future owners to potentially die because of a chime noise that was meant to be a reminder.... was disabled by cutting it.