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Old 05-10-2007, 05:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yea could you imagine if the dealer finds out what you did when you go to trade it in, wonder how many $$ off for replacing wires.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yea could you imagine if the dealer finds out what you did when you go to trade it in, wonder how many $$ off for replacing wires.

Actually Im a buyer for a dealership, and wouldnt deduct a dollar, and actually would have no way to find out if the mod was done or not.

Trade ins are all number games. Unless the car is a pile of crap, they just want to play numbers.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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As far as the safety aspect, leave it out. I dont care to hear anyones input on that subject, Im a grown man and can make my own decisions on whats right and wrong for my cars and myself.
It is a safety feature...you can't leave it out...it is the core of why this is an issue.

Again...if YOU want to do this fine go do it...as you said you are a grown man capable of making your own decisions. And if you are so schooled in cars like Type X stated then I'm sure you have the wherewithall to figure out how to do this on your own.

You are being selfish...you keep talking about YOU. You are free to do whatever you want...just as every one here is entitled to do. I'm with their decision to not host the content...it does not benefit anyone in a positive way...other than to make a select few feel better about not having to listen to the alarm. I figured this alarm thing out a while ago and I refused to post the answer because of the potential problems it could cause.

You are getting bent out of shape for deleted posts...you say it violates your right to post on a public forum. Well...the forum has a right to protect itself from possible liability. That is the forums right. You have the right to disagree and not like it.

Maybe you wouldn't but there are people out there that would sue someone because they gave them the means of how to do this and in turn got hurt worse in an accident. These same people are the type that would sue Honda for not protecting them better...sue the seat belt manufacturer and then sue the website for hosting the information.

Maybe you aren't one of those people...but you can't go by just one person.

Cool off...seriously.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
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True, a dealer wouldn't take off $$ for it cause they're gonna give you sh!t for your trade in reguardless
I was kinda thinkin from a buyers point of view. Like trying to pick every little detail to get the price of the car down.

Oh and IBTL
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:59 PM   #25 (permalink)
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As far as the safety aspect, leave it out. I dont care to hear anyones input on that subject, Im a grown man and can make my own decisions on whats right and wrong for my cars and myself.
Cool. I understand and agree completely with you here. The thing that we're drawing the line on here is the fact that we understand you can make your own judgements as a grown man, but we don't want to provide the resources for you to make that action.

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How is it not? You guys edited all of my posts!

This is a public forum, on the internet. Other people in this world have opinions that differ from yours mine and everyone else. So for you to feel that not wearing a seatbelt isnt in my best interest, and delete the thread my thread and edit all the posts, then its being opinionated based on the mods opinions.
This isn't about opinions, it's about committing an illegal act. We just don't want be that resource. We've never edited any of your other posts. I just deleted the ones in this thread because again, it's relating to the DIY we originally moved. Feel free to post anything else.
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Yea rigging the seat belt is a bad idea. Its like cutting the wires to your speakers cause you dont want to listen to the music The radio still functions as does the air bag system thinking your wearing your seat belt. I'm pretty sure the airbags work different w/ your seat belt on and off.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It is a safety feature...you can't leave it out...it is the core of why this is an issue.

Again...if YOU want to do this fine go do it...as you said you are a grown man capable of making your own decisions. And if you are so schooled in cars like Type X stated then I'm sure you have the wherewithall to figure out how to do this on your own.

You are being selfish...you keep talking about YOU. You are free to do whatever you want...just as every one here is entitled to do. I'm with their decision to not host the content...it does not benefit anyone in a positive way...other than to make a select few feel better about not having to listen to the alarm. I figured this alarm thing out a while ago and I refused to post the answer because of the potential problems it could cause.

You are getting bent out of shape for deleted posts...you say it violates your right to post on a public forum. Well...the forum has a right to protect itself from possible liability. That is the forums right. You have the right to disagree and not like it.

Maybe you wouldn't but there are people out there that would sue someone because they gave them the means of how to do this and in turn got hurt worse in an accident. These same people are the type that would sue Honda for not protecting them better...sue the seat belt manufacturer and then sue the website for hosting the information.

Maybe you aren't one of those people...but you can't go by just one person.

Cool off...seriously.


How many lawsuits have you personally seen against other internet forums based of info on how to mod a car?
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:08 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I dont understand how people complain so much about the seatbelt chime and "being safe"

yet applaud members that boost the cars, cut springs, cut interiors, change out steering wheels for non SRS ones, Nitrous etc etc..


He is a consenting adult and its his right to make the decision when he gets into a vehicle on his belt....

and i dont think that a LACK of one puts ANYONE else other than himself in danger

So why all the high horse responses?
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:09 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Cool. I understand and agree completely with you here. The thing that we're drawing the line on here is the fact that we understand you can make your own judgements as a grown man, but we don't want to provide the resources for you to make that action.



This isn't about opinions, it's about committing an illegal act. We just don't want be that resource. We've never edited any of your other posts. I just deleted the ones in this thread because again, it's relating to the DIY we originally moved. Feel free to post anything else.

So I guess the hundreds of posts that say "Go to a junk yard and buy and exrta buckle" is okay?

What about the posts that say, "Just stick your key in there untill it clicks?"


I simply wanted a proven way to eliminate the seat belt chime. I could go out and figure it out myself, but this is part of being a member of a forum. To see if anyone else has going that route, and if its proven to work.

Hell if I even knew the orig poster, I would have just PMed him. Thats why I made this thread, to see if he would step up and tell me how to get it done.
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I dont think its how many have there been its the point that it is entirely possible to get sued over something like this. I mean if you can break into a house and break your leg and sue the home owner, im pretty sure you can sue someone for telling you how to disable a safety system.

And for you ppl that dont wear you seat belt:

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Air bags inflate rapidly in a crash. If you’re not buckled up, you could be thrown too close to the air bag and seriously injured or even killed.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...nonpolice.html
I think thats good enough reason to not rig my seat belt and so the air bag stays on.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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This isn't about opinions, it's about committing an illegal act. We just don't want be that resource. We've never edited any of your other posts. I just deleted the ones in this thread because again, it's relating to the DIY we originally moved. Feel free to post anything else.
an illegal act that is punishable by what... a 50 dollar NON moving ticket?
if it was "so illegal" they would arrest and jail him for it.
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How many lawsuits have you personally seen against other internet forums based of info on how to mod a car?
Modding a car is one thing...explaining in detail how to defeat a safety feature is another. Especially when the feature being disabled can cause more injury in the event of an accident.

People have sued and won for their coffee being too hot. You know it's coffee...it has to be hot but they'll sue when they burn their mouth.

People will sue for anything these days...I don't want to see 8thCivic take a fall for someone posting bad information about SAFETY. The site might not be able to be held liable but they can be called into question for not taking more proactive steps to keep information like this off of their site.

How many people are suing myspace for their teenage daughters getting raped by some pervert on the web? It happens dude. Again...you have every right to your opinion...8thCivic and myself have our right to ours.
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I dont understand how people complain so much about the seatbelt chime and "being safe"

yet applaud members that boost the cars, cut springs, cut interiors, change out steering wheels for non SRS ones, Nitrous etc etc..


He is a consenting adult and its his right to make the decision when he gets into a vehicle on his belt....

and i dont think that a LACK of one puts ANYONE else other than himself in danger

So why all the high horse responses?
Its just this site man...
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i completely agree with hondab... this is a public forum.. as long as you put a disclaimer... i dont see anything wrong with the posts.... im mean as for legallity issues... im sure theres a DIY on how to install a catless exhaust on here... which is also illegal... as well as people modding there double din stereos on here... which are illegal... you are not supposed to be able to watch a dvd in the front seat of the vehicle no matter what... it causes distractions... i dont see why my post had to be deleted (expecially since i took the time to write it out and help a few people out on here) i think it should be a choice for themselves whether they should want to do it or not...
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:12 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Its just this site man...
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:13 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Sorry, couldnt resist, continue plz...
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Modding a car is one thing...explaining in detail how to defeat a safety feature is another. Especially when the feature being disabled can cause more injury in the event of an accident.

People have sued and won for their coffee being too hot. You know it's coffee...it has to be hot but they'll sue when they burn their mouth.

People will sue for anything these days...I don't want to see 8thCivic take a fall for someone posting bad information about SAFETY. The site might not be able to be held liable but they can be called into question for not taking more proactive steps to keep information like this off of their site.

How many people are suing myspace for their teenage daughters getting raped by some pervert on the web? It happens dude. Again...you have every right to your opinion...8thCivic and myself have our right to ours.

Your talking 2 totally differnt things. How many forums do you know of that have been sued for listing an illegal modification?
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Yea but watching dvds in the front or removing your cat wont directly lead to a bad situation. I mean if you watch a dvd and your take your eyes off the road you may crash.

If you disable the seat belt and the air bag flys up and breaks the neck of a 16 year old kid and the mom finds out that he learned on this site how to do it, i think we might have a problem there.

Edit: You have a choice to steer the car and watch a dvd, you dont have a choice on how close you'll be thrown to the air bag before it comes out at 200 mph.
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Your talking 2 totally differnt things. How many forums do you know of that have been sued for listing an illegal modification?
An illegal modification is one thing...leaving a detailed explanation on how to defeat a safety system is another. You cannot put them in the same grouping.
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An illegal modification is one thing...leaving a detailed explanation on how to defeat a safety system is another. You cannot put them in the same grouping.

No?

As the other guy said, we sure do have DIY on how to mod a factory navi to play dvd's while rolling down the road. Wouldnt you think honda prevented that as a safety concern?
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