3M WW Mount Injection

[dil2502]

I injected my motor mounts today, but needless to say it ended up being a little more difficult then orginally intended.

I started injecting the mounts and noticed that I was almost at the end of the tube and was only done with one mount. So I instantly figured out that the little pushy thing on the chaulk gun was FU(K3D up! So I took the tube out of the chaulk gun to find that the pusher at the bottom of the window weld turn sideways and the stuff was just oozing behind it.

Not having another chaulk gun, I just decided that I would pack them like you do wheel bearings, so I just started fishing the stuff out with my fingers. Needless to say it got messy. FAST. Eventually I had to get a kitchen knife to get to the part of the tube that I couldn't get with my fingers. That didn't work all the way either, so I just cut the tube open and had a ball.

Now my hands are semi-clean, and the mounts are filled and hardening as we speak. I had my wife take a few snaps with my phone, so they aren't the greatest but they show the insanity. Enjoy, I will update you on there progress and how they are once installed!

Taking the mounts out...Thanks to lpa1984 for letting me borrowing his mounts while mine are down

In the process of packing them with my fingers (Bad Idea)

All done packin'

Waiting for my hands to dry so I could peel of the window weld

[wrecked]

nice.. get some gloves dude.

[asdf]

Damn that camera phone is better than most digital cameras! What a mess lol...no gloves?

[sh33t_0f_p4p3r]

can those mounts be removed without lifting the engine?

[mikochu]

Damn, on carpet. That's ballsy.

[lpa1984]

Originally Posted by sh33t_0f_p4p3r

can those mounts be removed without lifting the engine?

Yes.

The mounts removed are the two torque rods (upper and lower) and the front engine mount. The driver and passenger side engine mounts (which aren't being removed here) do the work of supporting the engine assembly. So you can take all of these out without having to support the engine.

[sh33t_0f_p4p3r]

sweet, ill have to take it to a shop and see how much they want to do it

what exactly do i want to inject it with? can somone post a link to the product, or a picture of it?

[sh33t_0f_p4p3r]

i will prolly just do the front mount like skunk2 did, seem the easyest and 1 tube will do it?

[lpa1984]

Originally Posted by sh33t_0f_p4p3r

i will prolly just do the front mount like skunk2 did, seem the easyest and 1 tube will do it?

1 tube should be able to fill 2 mounts with some left over. If you're just doing the front, 1 tube will definitely be enough. Although instead of the front, if I were doing it, I'd fill the upper and lower torque rods instead. That will distribute the force evenly between 2 mounts, and will reduce movement from engine torque the most effectively.

[sh33t_0f_p4p3r]

thats true, but i was just going to fallow what skunk2 did, i mean, theres a reason they did just the front and not the other 2? im not looking for anything drastic, but thank you for the input, and taking your time to type it, it means alot to me

also, do you think i drive without the front mount for a day? i mean if i drive like a grandma? while the mounts cure

[dil2502]

Originally Posted by wrecked

nice.. get some gloves dude.

Originally Posted by asdf

Damn that camera phone is better than most digital cameras! What a mess lol...no gloves?

No, didn't have gloves. It's all good, I only have a few places let where it won't come off just yet, mostly on the back of my hand where I just don't want to pull if off because of the hair

Originally Posted by mikochu

Damn, on carpet. That's ballsy.

It was hot outside

Originally Posted by sh33t_0f_p4p3r

sweet, ill have to take it to a shop and see how much they want to do it

what exactly do i want to inject it with? can somone post a link to the product, or a picture of it?

I would just do it yourself, I used that little socket set for the whole thing, well and the pipe because some of the bolts were tight as hell....and a torque wrench. You only need two sockets a 17mm and a 3/4" (I don't know what the metric is for that but that is what I used)

And the tube looks like this when it isn't cut open


Only thing I would suggest is that you buy a decent caulk gun because the $2 one at wal-mart sucks (as you can see)

[EuphoricRhythm]

why use window weld instead of epoxy?

[w00t692]

the reason they did the front one and not the rear 2 is:

If you look at other hondas they don't have a front engine mount, just torque rods top and bottom and side mounts.

the k-series have this front mount... but it's weak as hell, it's nearly just for show...

it's by far the flimsiest stock mount on the car. making it stiff will greatly improve engine movement.

[Kakashi]

Originally Posted by EuphoricRhythm

why use window weld instead of epoxy?

Pliability probably.

[dil2502]

Originally Posted by Kakashi

Pliability probably.

Correct, window weld is not as hard a epoxy when dry, I don't mind some vibration in the cabin, but I think epoxy would be too much for my taste

[feralbrute]

I plan on injecting the same three mounts that you did, and I know that I can get the top dogbone and front engine mount out for sure, but how exactly (tips/links) did you go about removing and reinstalling the bottom torque rod? Thanks!

Edit: Nevermind... I got all three off and filled (without resorting to packing them by hand. Lol), and they are now hardening in front of a space heater in my shop. I can't wait for them to cure so I can test them!

[jaxson]

For ppl who just injected the front lower mount, did you notice an increase in noise in the cabin? My ETD def did, but that's located inches from the dashboard/cabin area.

[Zeuceone]

are you talking about the dogbone?

[jaxson]

The mount under the radiator...or the one that skunk2 suggest injecting.

[Baddrummerboyy]

I have the window weld stuff but can you use a normal caulking gun on it? Because the rear doesn't look like the normal caulking housing.