DIY Short Shifter

[007FG2]

Mines a little different than those other short shifter DIY where you have to drill your shiftknob. Instead of drilling my shiftknob, I decided to sand down my shifter.

1. removed the shifter
Theres a DIY on how to remove the center console and the shifter somewhere on here




2. Now you need some sort of a grinder, i used something like this

Now grind it just enough so the shift knob will be able to go all the way down, I stopped at the little things sticking out on the sides of the shifter

3. Now it should look liket his when your done

I painted it black


4. Make sure the shift knob fits on and stops turning at the point where the numbers on the knob is facing you, or else your gonna have to do a little more grinding.


5. put everything back


The height where the shift knob sits is adjustable.

When the shift knob is all the way down it feels more accurate and precise and the throw is shorter but shifting requires a little more thrust than when the shift knob is sitting up high. When the shift knob is up high, shifting is very light and the throw is longer

[jpv027]

Looks good! How well does it shift now?

[obert]

Nice job,looks good.

[HTXSI]

Originally Posted by 007FG2

Mines a little different than those other short shifter DIY where you have to drill your shiftknob. Instead of drilling my shiftknob, I decided to sand down my shifter.

1. removed the shifter
Theres a DIY on how to remove the center console and the shifter somewhere on here




2. Now you need some sort of a grinder, i used something like this

Now grind it just enough so the shift knob will be able to go all the way down, I stopped at the little things sticking out on the sides of the shifter

3. Now it should look liket his when your done

I painted it black


4. Make sure the shift knob fits on and stops turning at the point where the numbers on the knob is facing you, or else your gonna have to do a little more grinding.


5. put everything back


The height where the shift knob sits is adjustable.

When the shift knob is all the way down it feels more accurate and precise and the throw is shorter but shifting requires a little more thrust than when the shift knob is sitting up high. When the shift knob is up high, shifting is very light and the throw is longer

Man I did something simular to this and noone cared but they love yours.LOL

Nice job very good Idea same principal as mine just more risky.

[GreyK20z]

^^ why in the f_ck do people quote other people that post 10 pictures, makes no sense at all..

Are you so lazy that scrolling to the bottom and clicking the reply button is just not an option? There is a quick reply button ya know


Nice mod btw but I dislike how the leather booth overlaps itself..

[collins590]

I was thinking about something like this today, but I was more along the lines of can you get away with cutting an inch on the top of the shifter. I want my knob to sit around where the bottom of the stock (ex) knob is now(area with the notch in the knob). I'm pretty sure that If I sand down the bottom like you did I will only need to leave a few threads.

Hopefully this along with a skunk2 or twm knob will get me to where I would like to be.

[purplemonkeydishwasher]

Originally Posted by 007FG2

When the shift knob is all the way down it feels more accurate and precise and the throw is shorter but shifting requires a little more thrust than when the shift knob is sitting up high. When the shift knob is up high, shifting is very light and the throw is longer

Let me say first: Nice DIY.

But I don't understand, how can your throw be shorter if you are not changing the fulcrum point of the shifter. All you are doing is basically lowering the knob. The point of engagement at the gears still remains the same, so the throws aren't shorter, it's a placebo.

And it required more force only because you shortened the rod. If the lever arm is shorter, it needs more force to push into place.

Just my .02.

[collins590]

You obviously missed physics class. A rod is on a pivot, the longer the rod, the further you need to move the end, and the less effort needed, to do the same amount of work as if the rod were shorter. Just grab your shifter from the bottom and shift and you will see that you will not have to move your arm nearly as much, but it will be harder.

[HTXSI]

Originally Posted by purplemonkeydishwasher

Let me say first: Nice DIY.

But I don't understand, how can your throw be shorter if you are not changing the fulcrum point of the shifter. All you are doing is basically lowering the knob. The point of engagement at the gears still remains the same, so the throws aren't shorter, it's a placebo.

And it required more force only because you shortened the rod. If the lever arm is shorter, it needs more force to push into place.

Just my .02.

Look at this and then say it dosnt do anything.

Diy ss

[ocdcivic]

Originally Posted by collins590

You obviously missed physics class. A rod is on a pivot, the longer the rod, the further you need to move the end, and the less effort needed, to do the same amount of work as if the rod were shorter. Just grab your shifter from the bottom and shift and you will see that you will not have to move your arm nearly as much, but it will be harder.

I'll admit I never went to physics but all your doing is shortening the actual movement that your arm makes. Your not actually shortening the throw right?

Originally Posted by HTXSI

Look at this and then say it dosnt do anything.

Diy ss

And your throw appears to be shorter because your measurements are not constant. If you measured the throw from the same low point on the stock you would see that its the same distance. All I'm saying is that if you lean a 10ft. pole 10 degrees obiously the tip of the 10' pole is going to be farther from the origin than on a 5' pole. But the distance 10 degrees is still the same.

Get it? right? wrong?

[collins590]

Yes your angle is the same but it always will be on our civic unless you add a pulley to the cables that has two slots, one with a smaller diameter. Attach the cable going to the shifter on the smaller diameter part and you can reduce the angle.

Your throw on the other hand is how much you need to move your arm which is indeed shortened. ie. \/<--- 1st to second shift.. the distance is greater at the top than if it were half way down( shortened rod)

[ocdcivic]

Makes sense, Short Throw Shifter is decresing the amount of throw, in this case the distance your arm actually travels.

[HTXSI]

Originally Posted by ocdcivic

I'll admit I never went to physics but all your doing is shortening the actual movement that your arm makes. Your not actually shortening the throw right?



And your throw appears to be shorter because your measurements are not constant. If you measured the throw from the same low point on the stock you would see that its the same distance. All I'm saying is that if you lean a 10ft. pole 10 degrees obiously the tip of the 10' pole is going to be farther from the origin than on a 5' pole. But the distance 10 degrees is still the same.

Get it? right? wrong?

Look at it this way.



Just look at the pic for a long time it will come to you

Telling me that my measurements are incorrect.

[007FG2]

Look i understand your point but try to see it this way, that picture of the triangle above, the top line say its 10 inches and the bottom one is 5 (just making up numbers) at first you have to **** 10 inches from in 1st gear to 2nd gear, you shortened the shifter and now its only 5 inches from 1st to 2nd, the length of the shift is shorter thus = shorter shifting from 1st to 2nd.

True, the angle will always be the same 10degrees or whatever it is, the angle will never change, the only change is the length of the sides of the triangle (from the bottom vertex)

Not so easy to explain, do the opposite make it longer, add some sort of a shifter extender like a feet or two to the shifter to make it longer and shift from 1st to 2nd, you will see its a longer distance to cover from point a to b

[007FG2]

[HTXSI]

Originally Posted by 007FG2

Thank you fg2 didnt want to take the time to do that myself.

[blknytro]

I dont understand, I took the nut off and even if I use the stock knob and not grind anything it doesnt hit anything which means it would be pointless to grind away anthing right? The part that you grinded away, if that stayed the same and be stock it doesnt stop the knob from going down the thread does. Can you help me out here lol im so confused

[blknytro]

Should I try and shave off part of the threading???

[HTXSI]

Originally Posted by blknytro

I dont understand, I took the nut off and even if I use the stock knob and not grind anything it doesnt hit anything which means it would be pointless to grind away anthing right? The part that you grinded away, if that stayed the same and be stock it doesnt stop the knob from going down the thread does. Can you help me out here lol im so confused

It sounds like you are trying to use the stock nob, if so the nob will just not sit as low as the things we are doing.

But if you ground down the shift rod like the starter of this thread, and also cut off some threading(just like 1/2 inch) then you could run the nob almost all the way down, like you want to.

[purplemonkeydishwasher]

Originally Posted by 007FG2

Look i understand your point but try to see it this way, that picture of the triangle above, the top line say its 10 inches and the bottom one is 5 (just making up numbers) at first you have to **** 10 inches from in 1st gear to 2nd gear, you shortened the shifter and now its only 5 inches from 1st to 2nd, the length of the shift is shorter thus = shorter shifting from 1st to 2nd.

True, the angle will always be the same 10degrees or whatever it is, the angle will never change, the only change is the length of the sides of the triangle (from the bottom vertex)

Not so easy to explain, do the opposite make it longer, add some sort of a shifter extender like a feet or two to the shifter to make it longer and shift from 1st to 2nd, you will see its a longer distance to cover from point a to b

Ok I do understand what you guys are saying. Yea I wasn't trying to hate, just didn't understand exactly how your throw was shorter from my point of view.