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Old 03-26-2010, 03:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation DIY: 2nd GEAR GRIND FIX!!!!- Clutch Adjust

For more information on why this works, read this thread!

2nd Gear Grind Theory- PLEASE READ!

Hello everyone. I want to thank everyone who participated in the discussion I started about the clutch drag. It seems to me that it is the absolute cause of the high rpm grinding we are experiencing.

This DIY should solve all your gear-grinding woes; it did for me

The write up was rather hard to take pictures of because the space was so cramped.

So I know this was highly anticipated and I can't wait to hear others results!

Tools needed: 12mm Box End Wrench
About 10 Minutes


MODS PLEASE MAKE THIS A STICKY!


Let's start by putting a clean towel down on your floor mat. Your going to be putting your head here. I also suggest putting the seat all the way back, and tilting the steering wheel all the way up.




Now go under your steering column and look for the little knob that you rotate to remove the plastic cover. Turn it 90 degrees.




Go ahead and pull this cover off, it will make everything easier to get at.




Now time to lay down and check out the view we have. Look for the rod at the top of the clutch pedal. This is what we're going to adjust.




Now at the base of this rod, where it meets the clutch pedal, there is a lock nut to keep it from loosening. We need to loosen this lock nut. Proceed to crack this nut loose with your 12mm. It is a little tricky to get the wrench in there, but give it a few minutes




Now this next part is REALLY easy, so don't over think it. You're going to turn the rod CLOCKWISE until you can't turn it anymore. All you need to use is your fingers. Push on your clutch a little to feel how your adjustment is going. You want it to start feeling firmer. I couldn't get a good picture but you need to use both hands; one of the left side and one on the right side of the rod. Just rotate outward until it doesn't go anymore. It's that simple!




Once the rod is fully adjusted outward, go ahead and snug the lock-nut the same way you loosened it.


Replace the plastic cover and you're done!


What this did was increase the travel of the rod, pushing on the Master Cylinder more; and therefore getting the clutch out a little more!


The clutch will feel very different after the adjustment but you will get used to it. It is VERY important to remember to never rest your foot on the clutch, now especially, because it is more sensitive to short travel now.


Guys, when you go out and test this, remember: warm up your transmission before shifting at high rpm! Drive for at least 10 minutes if it's for the first time of the day. I noticed a night and day difference with the tranny being warm compared to when it's cold.

Here is a video I put together. I went from never being able to access 2nd at 6K+, to this! I hope you all have the same results and PLEASE share with the rest of us!

YouTube - Civic Si- Proper Shifting

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Will it help me not grind if I am powershifting???? Anyways, I would sometime adjust it needed after a clutch install...
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thx ak! im gonna get this done tomorrow and i will most definately post results. plus i will be adding a new intake and fp tomorrow as well =) im psyched!!!
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Im about to go try this., in for more reviews though.
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How does it feel different? Softer, harder, different catch point? I'd like to give this a shot. I ground the other night with this chick in my car and felt like a 8=o
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How does it feel different? Softer, harder, different catch point? I'd like to give this a shot. I ground the other night with this chick in my car and felt like a 8=o
The engagement point is later, and it feels firmer all the way through. I felt like crap every time I used to grind, haha!
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thx ak! im gonna get this done tomorrow and i will most definately post results. plus i will be adding a new intake and fp tomorrow as well =) im psyched!!!
Oh man your going to love flashpro and your ability to shift!!!!!


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Will it help me not grind if I am powershifting???? Anyways, I would sometime adjust it needed after a clutch install...
I would not suggest power-shifting. Even though I do it, I'm just saying...
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=/ just ran outside and did this, took her for a spin around the block and it definitely feels better. however, i grinded shifting into second on the way home soooo maybe i messed up?
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Can't wait to try this out this weekend. I think if this doesn't work on its own, then adding boomba mounts and changing my tranny fluid which hasn't been changed in ages, should all equal to no grinding I'm hoping.

Great DIY
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Hmmm, interesting. We'll see how if feels and if it is effective! Thanks for the write up!
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i shouldve probably asked this on the previous thread but while everyone is on this one....how exactly does the clutch adjust iteself? i mean if it has the ability to adjust itself through hydrolics then there must be some kind of electrical connection tied to it no? (i have a feeling im gonna get flamed hard) lol
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=/ just ran outside and did this, took her for a spin around the block and it definitely feels better. however, i grinded shifting into second on the way home soooo maybe i messed up?
Make sure you have the clutch all the way down before you shift. I know this sounds elementary but I noticed it's easy to get excited when your trans actually starts shifting well. When you get excited you tend to try shifting before the clutch is all the way in. If you said it feels better then it sounds like you did the steps correctly.

Another thing I noticed is since my trans is already butchered from all my previous grinds, it's really necessary to warm the transmission up before you start shifting hard. Mine shifts like butter once it's hot.
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quick question, I noticed in the pic where you said you turn the rod counter-clockwise, the red arrow is actually going "clockwise", just wondering which one it is...thanks!
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i'm going to have to try this tomorrow if it's not raining here again.... nice write-up

btw i like in the video how you roll past a honda dealership lol

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man i wish i could regain traction in first gear at WOT lol. if you fully adjust the clutch then what happens when the clutch self adjusts and you have no more play ?

does the rod go back down on its own or something?
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quick question, I noticed in the pic where you said you turn the rod counter-clockwise, the red arrow is actually going "clockwise", just wondering which one it is...thanks!
The arrow is pointing the right way if you look at where it's screwing out of. Imagine you're looking down on the rod... It is spinning counter clockwise out of the clutch bracket.
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The arrow is pointing the right way if you look at where it's screwing out of. Imagine you're looking down on the rod... It is spinning counter clockwise out of the clutch bracket.
Um, wow...that's confusing. I understand what your saying...glad the arrow was there. Cuz I woulda turned it the other way. Now, I understand.
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