06+ Civic SI Ingalls "Stiffy" Engine Torque Damper Install (LOADS of pics) - Page 7

Notoriously_rob · 11-12-2008, 12:13 PM

so call me dumb, please....I have only owned 1 import

What does this to to help out throttle response?

My buddy has one on his 06 Si and it makes the whole car vibrate....

Flame On!

bueno4x4 · 11-12-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcrgrn312

Just installed this tonight and the difference was...dramatic. I got in and started the car and there was some additional noise at idle but nothing serious, then I pulled out of the driveway and was amazed! There is a huge improvement in how connected the clutch and throttle feel to the engine. I ran down the street and my shifts were smoother (it was like I was being very ginger with the clutch only I wasn't...I was just dropping it either but casually shifting). I turned on the A/C and there was a slight increase in vibration similar to turning it on at low speed: 10-15 mph.

On the road, I tried a launch from 4k rpm and floored it and the tires squeeled instead of chirping spiratically and then the car took off. VTEC is MUCH more agressive sounding and there is more response once the clutch engages.

In summary, I believe the biggest increase is the noise but it's all good noise. This thing does exactly what everyone says it will. It's fantastic. If it would make a difference, I'd install another...somewhere...not really. Thanks Ingalls! Oh and Corsport...I got the ETD two business days after I ordered it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatBigDude

installed mine a month ago and never chimed in here so heres my input.. when i first installed i felt the vibration in the cabin but no biggie i can dela with it.. i had no rattle.. now after a few weeks i do get some rattle in the engine bay at idle but its worth it.. i really love the mod cause i always hated wheel hop... now the wheels really wanna rip pavement when u romp on it.

^^from the last page

cliffnotes: it absorbs the energy caused by the engine when you floor it, thus, reducing wheel hop

Bueno

nycclaye · 11-12-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notoriously_rob

so call me dumb, please....I have only owned 1 import

What does this to to help out throttle response?

My buddy has one on his 06 Si and it makes the whole car vibrate....

Flame On!

your dumb

giantsnation · 11-13-2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeban

I installed this yeturday .. the pictures on here are very good .. other then the way the bolts are positioned .. I noticed you have them the other way around and the rubber rings go in between the braket and the damper for sound deadening. But very good pictures !! They claim its 14 mm preload but mine was more like 12 mm I shortened it to 11 mm ..

The only thing that really confused me was the stiffness settings. Seeing they claimed that it is suposed to be 14 mm I began lowering it without checking the original mm preload. after lowering it a bit .. I noticed I was at 11 mm already .. so it couldnt have come with 14mm. And I really dont know what everyone was talking about how there car rattles all over the place. It makes a bit of noise when im lifting off the clutch but as long as I give it a bit of gas there is nothing. One thing I noticed is it makes the car sound louder..and my shifts are very smooth now. Great product .. worth every penny !

Hey maybe I missed something, but anyone know why the car would sound louder?

rcrgrn312 · 11-13-2008, 01:33 PM

Your soft rubber motor mounts (stock) are designed to do one thing: dampen out vibration! The "stiffy" pretty much connects your engine to your chassis and is sending more vibration throughout the entire body of the car and most noticeably to you, the cabin. According to CorSport, the stiffy is supposed to be the least drastic in terms of vibration increase when compared to the other methods of reducing wheel hop.

07LXcoupe · 11-14-2008, 07:42 AM

Im not 100% sure but Im pretty positive that this thing will work on R18's the mounting points for the brackets seem to be the same so I dont know why it wouldnt fit. Has anyone with an R18 tried to fit it on their car?

darken0420 · 11-25-2008, 12:00 AM

just finished!!!!! Goin for a drive! Good DIY cept the whole bolt the wrong way thing. Oh well proly doesn't matter

rcallaham · 11-26-2008, 03:56 PM

Excellent pictures and write-up, 2007k20z3. I'm glad I joined this forum because of help like this.

darken0420 · 11-27-2008, 02:31 AM

Thanks for all the help. And thanks for the later pics some of you posted. I really like my "stiffy". It def. rides better. Great DIY and Great investment.

darken0420 · 11-27-2008, 09:40 PM

Had to go back and re-adjust it. MAKE SURE U R USING MM AND NOT CM!!!
11mm is just under 1/2 inch. I was using a

y tape measure the first time.

kskillz · 12-01-2008, 04:24 PM

Hi all,

When adjusting the ETD, do you all unmount it from the brackets first? Or have you been able to adjust the stiffness with it mounted?

Thx....

a1j7g · 12-05-2008, 09:20 AM

have to adjust it first before install...I have mine set at 13mm

rcallaham · 12-05-2008, 07:28 PM

I know there is a clearance issue with the stiffy when you install the NST (Non-stop Performance) underdrive pulleys. Has anyone had the clearance issues with this ETD when the Unorthadox Pulleys are installed?

darken0420 · 12-19-2008, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1j7g

have to adjust it first before install...I have mine set at 13mm

Really? why do you have to take it off? I set mine for 15mm originally then I went back and made it 11mm but kept it on. Is this wrong? I did notice a rattle when I come out of 1st slow. Kinda thought it was my exhaust ratlin but now im not sure.

red_eg · 12-20-2008, 07:55 PM

thanks

rcallaham · 12-20-2008, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcallaham

I know there is a clearance issue with the stiffy when you install the NST (Non-stop Performance) underdrive pulleys. Has anyone had the clearance issues with this ETD when the Unorthadox Pulleys are installed?

Bump^ Anyone have feedback/opinions about this?

IceMurder · 12-24-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcallaham

I know there is a clearance issue with the stiffy when you install the NST (Non-stop Performance) underdrive pulleys. Has anyone had the clearance issues with this ETD when the Unorthadox Pulleys are installed?

no there isn't. not on the new ETD's, the bracket is modified by Ingall's so that pulleys will work.

rcallaham · 12-25-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceMurder

no there isn't. not on the new ETD's, the bracket is modified by Ingall's so that pulleys will work.

sweet. thanks!

IceMurder · 12-25-2008, 03:19 PM

installed mine today and i love it

can actually do a burn out not without my car bouncing up and down, lol

IceMurder · 12-25-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanamaSi2007

This is a reply from Ingalls:

"As long as the o ring is between the bracket and the damper it doesn't matter witch way you install the nut and bolt."

that's common sense. anyone in this thread saying it makes a difference which way the bolt goes is poorly misinformed.

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11-12-2008, 12:13 PM	#121 (permalink)
Notoriously_rob Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Grovetown, Ga Posts: 138 Rob B.	so call me dumb, please....I have only owned 1 import What does this to to help out throttle response? My buddy has one on his 06 Si and it makes the whole car vibrate.... Flame On!

11-13-2008, 01:33 PM	#125 (permalink)
rcrgrn312 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Goldsboro, NC Age: 27 Posts: 85 Jeff	Your soft rubber motor mounts (stock) are designed to do one thing: dampen out vibration! The "stiffy" pretty much connects your engine to your chassis and is sending more vibration throughout the entire body of the car and most noticeably to you, the cabin. According to CorSport, the stiffy is supposed to be the least drastic in terms of vibration increase when compared to the other methods of reducing wheel hop.

11-14-2008, 07:42 AM	#126 (permalink)
07LXcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cape coral Age: 24 Posts: 607 Tony	Im not 100% sure but Im pretty positive that this thing will work on R18's the mounting points for the brackets seem to be the same so I dont know why it wouldnt fit. Has anyone with an R18 tried to fit it on their car?

11-25-2008, 12:00 AM	#127 (permalink)
darken0420 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lake Zurich Age: 34 Posts: 2,011 Dave	just finished!!!!! Goin for a drive! Good DIY cept the whole bolt the wrong way thing. Oh well proly doesn't matter

11-26-2008, 03:56 PM	#128 (permalink)
rcallaham Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glasgow, KY Posts: 706 Russell	Excellent pictures and write-up, 2007k20z3. I'm glad I joined this forum because of help like this.

11-27-2008, 02:31 AM	#129 (permalink)
darken0420 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lake Zurich Age: 34 Posts: 2,011 Dave	Thanks for all the help. And thanks for the later pics some of you posted. I really like my "stiffy". It def. rides better. Great DIY and Great investment.

11-27-2008, 09:40 PM	#130 (permalink)
darken0420 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lake Zurich Age: 34 Posts: 2,011 Dave	Had to go back and re-adjust it. MAKE SURE U R USING MM AND NOT CM!!! 11mm is just under 1/2 inch. I was using a y tape measure the first time.

12-01-2008, 04:24 PM	#131 (permalink)
kskillz Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 34	Hi all, When adjusting the ETD, do you all unmount it from the brackets first? Or have you been able to adjust the stiffness with it mounted? Thx....

12-05-2008, 09:20 AM	#132 (permalink)
a1j7g Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,504 Andy	have to adjust it first before install...I have mine set at 13mm

12-05-2008, 07:28 PM	#133 (permalink)
rcallaham Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glasgow, KY Posts: 706 Russell	I know there is a clearance issue with the stiffy when you install the NST (Non-stop Performance) underdrive pulleys. Has anyone had the clearance issues with this ETD when the Unorthadox Pulleys are installed?

12-20-2008, 07:55 PM	#135 (permalink)
red_eg Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 222 Albert	thanks

12-25-2008, 03:19 PM	#139 (permalink)
IceMurder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Age: 26 Posts: 2,574 Chris	installed mine today and i love it can actually do a burn out not without my car bouncing up and down, lol

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