*DIY-HONDATA IMG Install-Q Style

[HanCivicSI]

We just finished the install but when we turn the key to the "on" position (not turning the car on), the CEL comes on and blinks 5 times and then turns off. Now the only thing we can think of is because we didnt relocate the ground from the fuel rail...would that be the reason, or do the 5 blinks mean something else?

[k20z3civic]

Originally Posted by HanCivicSI

We just finished the install but when we turn the key to the "on" position (not turning the car on), the CEL comes on and blinks 5 times and then turns off. Now the only thing we can think of is because we didnt relocate the ground from the fuel rail...would that be the reason, or do the 5 blinks mean something else?

It's not the rail ground and I don't understand why people relocate this ground?? I understand Hondata says so but it really makes no sense when you still have 8 bolts as your ground.

[HanCivicSI]

Originally Posted by k20z3civic

It's not the rail ground and I don't understand why people relocate this ground?? I understand Hondata says so but it really makes no sense when you still have 8 bolts as your ground.

I was having the same debate with some buddies helping me out. I do have the car in pieces but all sensors and everything else are all buttoned up. Headlights are out, bumper is still off....other than that everything else is tight. Just to make sure, I triple checked all plugs fittings etc. After warming the engine up, the car ran fine. I'm stumped.

[HanCivicSI]

Just to clarify...when I turn the key forward two clicks, not starting, the system test starts. After about 15 seconds, the engine light flashes 5 times then goes off. When I start the car, the engine light does not come on. Hope this helps.

[Qshooter151]

i honestly have no idea bro. i'd do a search for cel's and if that doesn't turn up anything, start a new thread in the mechanical problems section. i didn't have this issue...

[HanCivicSI]

BTW, repped for the install instructions. There were a few different things on my car vs your car but mostly the same.

I'm still looking for the CEL codes but the closest I could get (older model) was that 5 blinks when the key is turned forward may indicate a manifold air pressure sensor is reading too high or too low. How would it know that if I haven't even started the engine? I know I know, I'll start another thread on this. Just wanted to give you props on this DIY.

[Qshooter151]

Originally Posted by HanCivicSI

BTW, repped for the install instructions. There were a few different things on my car vs your car but mostly the same.

I'm still looking for the CEL codes but the closest I could get (older model) was that 5 blinks when the key is turned forward may indicate a manifold air pressure sensor is reading too high or too low. How would it know that if I haven't even started the engine? I know I know, I'll start another thread on this. Just wanted to give you props on this DIY.

thanks man...it's cool to post about it in here, it happened after you installed your IMG. i just figured you'd get a better response in the other section w/ a new thread. keep us posted about this issue cuz i'm sure you won't be the last to run into it and whatever you find out can benefit those who do...

[ErichPryde]

I just did this project today, after reading this DIY completely. Q, damn good write-up.

I didn't remove the front bracket, I didn't want to deal with that, I just struggled with various extensions and funny angles, because I figured that would take just as long.

Originally Posted by dentrecords

Thanks for the write up.. exactly what I ended up doing with that clamp. I ended up using a dremel to get the original off!!!

I wish I'd seen the recommendation (or at least thought of it) to remove that front bracket.. getting at a few of those bolts was a real challenge.. to say the least.

the left bolt coming out of the block had to be shaved by a thread or so simply to get the manifold off. Great write up man, you have rep.

I used the dremel idea as well. thanks for that tidbit! I almost had to shave the left bolt as well, but I was able to twist the Intake manifold up and counterclockwise enough that it finally came loose.

I didn't bypass any coolant lines, and I don't notice any difference in temperature of the IM between how it used to be and how it is now. What lines did you guys bypass, or reroute? anyone have a picture?

[Gonzo]

Qshooter gave me some support over AIM for getting the manifold off but now it is putting it on that is the problem. Fighting between the two studs, that black bar underneath, and the engine mount thing on the left that prevents the studs from lining up it is hard to get it back on.

[Qshooter151]

sorry i couldn't hang witcha any longer man. how'd you make out???

[DakidzSi]

I just did the install today and had the same problem on my 07 sedan. I disconnected the negative terminal of the battery but first make sure you have your radio code. Makes no sense to get rid of your CEL on not be able to listen to your radio.

I left the negative off for about 5 minutes, after which I reconnected it. Turn your car on and let it sit idling for about 30 minutes. I've been driving all day and have no CEL. I hope this works for you

[asdf]

Where did yall get the Hondata gasket from? Looks like none of sponsors on here sell it...

[DakidzSi]

Originally Posted by asdf

Where did yall get the Hondata gasket from? Looks like none of sponsors on here sell it...

Got mine from Corsport. Same product and they are very good at getting it to you fast.

[Qshooter151]

Originally Posted by asdf

Where did yall get the Hondata gasket from? Looks like none of sponsors on here sell it...

got mine from Hondata when my ecu was reflashed...

http://www.hondata.com/

[ozfizzle]

Just purchased the gasket myself and i will be following your DIY but i had one question. i am going to use a torque wrench can you tell me at how many pounds of pressure i need to install the bolts? if anyone knows please can you tell me, thanks.

[DakidzSi]

I believe it's 16ft/lbs for IM and TB bolts.

[Gonzo]

Ok, finally uploaded pictures off my camera and was reminded of this...




This is a lifesaver. Please get a pair of locking pliers and use them to grab and keep those clips open. You know that tricky clip under the manifold? No problem with locking pliers. Not only do they let you grab onto it but they let you move the clip with both hands while the pliers keep it open for you.

[nese005]

Awesome write up !

[HanCivicSI]

Sorry, haven't been here for a while since the IMG install. I drove my car for a short time but could not get rid of the CEL. It was too late to do anything else so I crossed my fingers, loaded up and took off for the Tail of the Dragon Meet. Luckily, nothing happened. After my first stop to fill up, I tested it again and it had cleared! I've noticed since the TB and IMG installs, I get a noticable increase in gas mileage. Not much, but enough over the course of a full tank.

[Matauz]

Here was mine all apart, but I ported the intake and polished the inside along with cutting the access alum ,used stock gasket looks like it might off been easier taking the front apart :P