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Old 04-29-2009, 06:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DIY Navi Retro Install

i will add pictures later BUT you really dont need pics, but here you go

what you need from hondapartsdeals.com:

1) a navi (duh, if its an si make sure its a premium audio system navi)
2) gps antenna (39835-SNA-A01)
3) 2 #10 (93913-14420)
4) 8 #8 (91551-SE0-003) (4 for each side)
5) 1 # 7 (91507-SL9-003)

thats for that picture, next is from this picture:

6) 1 #12 (77250-SNA-A01ZA)
7) 1 #13 (77255-SNA-A00)
8) 1 #14 (77256-SNA-A00)
9) for numbers 35, 36, and 27 re-use from the stock radio

ok now that you got all of that begins the install (again pics will be added later):
theres two ways of doing this install...the easy way and the harder way.
lets do the easy way (since i did do it this way)

ok buy pigtails for this, what are pigtails? they are the harness plugs that plug into the back of the navi. you only need 12p/22p:

17p is the same as HARNESS A (you WILL use from your stock radio)

ok now that you got the pigtails, lets first do the easy one the 17p plug:
here's the pin out for the pigtail....



tap (from the navi pigtail) 1 to A17
tap 4 to A9

now next to the B HARNESS/22P, luckily for us the one on the left is from the navi pigtail and the one on the right is from the stock radio.

this is a pic of the two harness you need. it goes from the green one to the stock one under it

the following pics show the taping from one wire to the other wire



connect B1 to B3
connect B2 to B4
connect B3 to B5
connect B6 to B6
connect B7 to B7
connect B11 to B13
connect B12 to B14
connect B13 to B15
connect B15 to B <----there is no ground for the B HARNESS, so i tapped this one into A9 from above
conncet B20 to B16<-----is not on the diagram but this is your amp

the gps antenna is easy...just unscrew 3 screws from your speedometer lift it on the right side and you will see a place to put it, plug in your cables and fire it up, make sure you got the 4 digit radio code.


***this is up to you how you want to tap... there are plenty of ways to "tap" the way i did it was i stripped each wire about 2 cm then poked a hole then from the navi pigtail i went in the hole and twist it around...then i soldered it and covered it with electric tape.****

also the hard way to do this is no pigtails...just find some wires then solder TO THE NAVI then the other end tap it into the stock harness...i say harder because who would want to solder to tha navi?
got questions? just shoot away....


sites i used:
DIY - Installing an OEM Nav into a Non-Nav CRV - HondaSUV Forums - Discussion forum and bulletin board for Honda CR-V, CRV, Element, Pilot, HR-V owners
Help, CRV stereo pinout? where's the Ignition sense? - HondaSUV Forums - Discussion forum and bulletin board for Honda CR-V, CRV, Element, Pilot, HR-V owners
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/attac...1&d=1193346656

this is information collected from a one month period. i hope you guys can benefit from this, i know i did!


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nothing? this is a diy for all civics that want navi and need a diy

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Looks extremely complicated, especially without pictures. But hey, I'm a noob and everything looks harder to me

With pics I think it will be easier to help people do it themselves
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Does not look fun !!! But good DIY....
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Looks extremely complicated, especially without pictures. But hey, I'm a noob and everything looks harder to me

With pics I think it will be easier to help people do it themselves
yea its not that hard, theres no need for pics, all you have to do is tape one wire to another, its as simple as it gets, but im gonna post pics later when i do this to my gf's car
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Does not look fun !!! But good DIY....
thanks obert! always good to hear from a buddy of mine
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update!! i have not done this, but heres another option:
instead of tapping into your stock harness, you could theoritacly rearange the wires...

look at your stock radio harness (from behind) from this pic use a needle of some sort and poke right under each wire to be able to pull out the wire, and just rearange the wires so that the right looks like the left side, i have not done this but i just though of it, as far as the little one on the top left, you still need to solder 2 wires to it:
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If you don't mind me asking. How much did it cost you total to do this install parts wise? I might be willing to try if its reasonable.
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If you don't mind me asking. How much did it cost you total to do this install parts wise? I might be willing to try if its reasonable.
i got the navi only for 685
then i bought the parts for 50 bucks (antenna brackets and the dashboard)
then paid 50 bucks (a friend of mine =D ) to do everything
heres the other small hump in the road, the pigtails, if you dont get it, your gonna have to buy some wires (around 22) so that they can connect to the navi.

but you can find the navi for cheaper, im guessing no more than 800 for worse case scneario

still cheaper than honda 2 grand just for the navi =D
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would your boy like to make 50 more bucks ?
yea no prob 2 reminders:
disconnect the battery
and 2 if you have an lx or so get the navi with the non premium audio stereo


if it says premium audo stereo (si) then make sure ur new navi says the same

also my boy make 50 more bucks? you want to do it? he does a great job, hes done it to mine and my gf's so he knows whats up. so we are the guienea pigs. = )
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yea no prob 2 reminders:
disconnect the battery
and 2 if you have an lx or so get the navi with the non premium audio stereo


if it says premium audo stereo (si) then make sure ur new navi says the same

also my boy make 50 more bucks? you want to do it? he does a great job, hes done it to mine and my gf's so he knows whats up. so we are the guienea pigs. = )
i have an LX and i got the premium audio Navi would it still work
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yea it will (i think) its just that the premium (im guessing) has the ability to power the sub/amp the lx doesnt have one so your good, but if it was the other way around, si with a non premium navi then your sub/amp wont work. but yea he'll do it but you need the pigtails or else its harder
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yea it will (i think) its just that the premium (im guessing) has the ability to power the sub/amp the lx doesnt have one so your good, but if it was the other way around, si with a non premium navi then your sub/amp wont work. but yea he'll do it but you need the pigtails or else its harder
whats the pigtails? and where does your boy stay at?
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the thing im holding if you dont have it then its going to be harder, and prob charge you more, because hes going to have to make those wires, and its no fun, it took 2 hrs WITH the pigtails, imagine w/o it
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the thing im holding if you dont have it then its going to be harder, and prob charge you more, because hes going to have to make those wires, and its no fun, it took 2 hrs WITH the pigtails, imagine w/o it
but what are pigtails where do i get that?
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pigtails are pretty much that green thing that plugs into something and you cut it off, pretty much looks like pigtails, where to get one? lol thats the hardest part of the diy, theres almost 0 chance of finding one, cuz how many people actually cut off the harness from their car? if you cant get that, your next step is getting a lot of wires and getting putting this at the end of it:

let me look for the end of it online, then ill post that pic
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pigtails are pretty much that green thing that plugs into something and you cut it off, pretty much looks like pigtails, where to get one? lol thats the hardest part of the diy, theres almost 0 chance of finding one, cuz how many people actually cut off the harness from their car? if you cant get that, your next step is getting a lot of wires and getting putting this at the end of it:

let me look for the end of it online, then ill post that pic
how did you get yours?
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