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Old 03-07-2008, 09:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Get Rid of Orange peel

How do you get rid of orange peel? I am fairly good at detailing my car, and I am not afraid to take a block to it. But I do not know were to start. I am very patiant so time doesnt really matter. Can anyone provide some insight please. Rasky were are you
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Old 03-07-2008, 10:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i think you gotta wet sand it eeeeekkk
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i think you gotta wet sand it eeeeekkk


Hopefully, you have something to buff the scratches out with.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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repaint the car, no other way to get rid of orange peel. You can try an abraisive like a rubbing compound, but that will burn the clear away and top coat. then you will have to spray a new clear coat over it and buff that spot with some wax.

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You can wet sand and buff it but given how thin are clear is already it could eventually lead to premature clear coat failure. I did wet sanded my hood on my old Habi but I don't recommend anyone else doing it. We just have to live with it or have the car repainted.


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repaint the car, no other way to get rid of orange peel. You can try an abraisive like a rubbing compound, but you have to recoat the area you do that with a clear coat.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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^ haha, that made me laugh, I will also go ahead and say: "?"
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what is an 'orange peel'? i thought to get rid of it you picked it up and threw it out?


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Old 03-07-2008, 11:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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what is an 'orange peel'? i thought to get rid of it you picked it up and threw it out?


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Texture of the paint is rough like an orange, should be smooth like glass.

This website explains it a little...

Though his theory about removing the paint to the lowest point would seem correct other professionals would strongly disagree...

GlossyCar, Wet Sanding, Paint Polishing, colorsanding, wetsand, show car wetsanding
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Ah... I think I understand, when you mentioned how it feels I got it.

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You can wet sand and buff it but given how thin are clear is already it could eventually lead to premature clear coat failure.


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Rasky, I thought, that "grainy" look in a car was desirable. My car doesn't "exactly" look like a "mirror", but it is very smooth looking. Any clarification on this issue?

See here for "grainy look": New Si orange peel

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Rasky, I thought, that "grainy" look in a car was desirable. My car doesn't "exactly" look like a "mirror", but it is very smooth looking. Any clarification on this issue?

See here for "grainy look": New Si orange peel

My head hurts after reading some of those posts!

I don't see how it can be desirable; it diminishes the overall gloss and clarity of the paint job. Look at almost any show car and the paint will be like glass. All paint whether factory or repainted will have orange peel to a varying degree unless it's been wet sanded. Factories won't do this because it takes time and money. Only the very high end and exotic cars are wet sanded and buffed before leaving the factory.
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Sorry Rasky, didn't mean to offend you. I've just never noticed it that much. It doesnt really bother me all that much. But I seemed to notice that it is more obvious after waxing, hense my understanding. Sorry, didn't mean to mis-guide others. Guess I learned something today.
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Sorry Rasky, didn't mean to offend you. I've just never noticed it that much. It doesnt really bother me all that much. But I seemed to notice that it is more obvious after waxing, hense my understanding. Sorry, didn't mean to mis-guide others. Guess I learned something today.
lol, I wasn't offended in any way bro

I just can't believe all the fallacious information that was posted on that thread.

As far as the orange peel goes I would say that most people have little knowledge of it and until you point it out they would think it was normal.
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I said exactly what you said but in a different way...there i made the change
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repaint the car, no other way to get rid of orange peel. You can try an abraisive like a rubbing compound, but that will burn the clear away and top coat. then you will have to spray a new clear coat over it and buff that spot with some wax.
Sorry but it is still reads inaccurate...maybe it's just your wording.

You don't have to repaint the car to remove orange peel. It can be done by first wet sanding and then buffing with a compound but, without having an expensive paint thickness gauge and a LOT of experience in wet sanding this however is not recommended.

There is some play room on our clear coats than can safely be removed. Problem is that once you remove it you won't be able to continue to safely do any necessary paint correction that may be needed later on down the road.

So by saying you have to repaint your car to remove orange peel isn't really accurate, though it would probably be the best way. If you do choose that route you would want to specify an extra clear to the painter and then you will still have to wet sand and buff the car. Too much clear can be very bad too...

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Rasky, I thought, that "grainy" look in a car was desirable. My car doesn't "exactly" look like a "mirror", but it is very smooth looking. Any clarification on this issue?

See here for "grainy look": New Si orange peel
Bro, the last thing anyone would want is to have a paint texture that looked like the surface of a golf ball or orange with dimples in it. To be honest, I can't think of anyone who has ever felt that "grainy" was desirable.

Nevertheless, in a show car finish, the object is to smooth out the surface of the paint so that the surface is uniform. On cars that have been professionally repainted, extra layers of paint and clear coat are applied so that the paint can be wet sanded and then polished out.

For me, having that mirror finish is what I desire. As Rasky said, given the thinness of our paint, wet sanding is a risky bet at best. It is something you just have to live with.
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Old 03-07-2008, 06:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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do not wet sand it if you dont know what you are doing. trust me *sigh* the clear is very thin like rasky already stated. you will sand right through it quickly. Just learn to live with the orange peel
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lol i would agree dont wetsand. were only driving a "civic" i dont think much is expected espicially if its a daily driver. i used to be a dick about it but after some rock chips and crap i just said w/e. do your best but dont overkill
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