Needs some advice on machine Polisher...

asdf · 10-24-2007, 02:23 AM

I've been looking into a machine polisher for some time and ready to buy now. I have very light webbing/swirls and some very light scratches; all are mostly on the truck/hood for some reason...

I've used the Porter-Cable 7424 before, but it's been awhile. I now see there is something new out, the "Ultimate Detailing Machine".

Is there any difference between the two?

What pads should I be looking to get?

Or is there a really good 'bang for the buck' package deal out?

I have a few things left over from Meguairs when I had the 7424; Meguiar's #9 and #83; and newer stuff NXT wax and clay bar. Is there anything else I should look into picking up?

tia!

antiprnt · 10-24-2007, 02:30 AM

The ultimate detail machine is basically a porter cable 7424 on steriods. Its modded to be almost as powerful as a rotary. Running it on speed 4 is like running your porter cable 7424 on speed 6. You can use it the same as a 7424. It can take the same pads.

asdf · 10-24-2007, 02:34 AM

I remember reading not to use it at the high of speeds?

asdf · 10-24-2007, 03:03 PM

Anyone...

***NitrousG35*** · 10-24-2007, 05:19 PM

I don't know anything about the Ultimate Detail machine, but Rasky might.

I did find out on the Meguiar's website that they are coming out with a new machine that is supposed to be the latest and greatest in orbital machines:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/thread/40065.aspx

distrbd · 10-24-2007, 05:54 PM

For your PC /UDM future use I would recommend getting :
1)CCS 6.5 inch Smart Pads™ Dual Action Foam Pads by Lake Country.(one blue ,two white ,one orange)
2)Poorboy's SSR 1 ,PB SSR 2.5 .
its a good start.

asdf · 10-24-2007, 05:59 PM

Thanks for the response guys. Yeah I used the Lake Country pads before and they were awesome.

Ok I found a bunchh of "package deals". I want to keep it around the $200 range... Thoughts/insights on these? Some better than others?

http://www.superiorcarcare.net/porter-cable-kit.html
http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-udm-inte...over-kit-.html
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-udmsfx-kit.html
http://www.topoftheline.com/porcabpolpac.html
http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable...cessories.html
http://www.superiorcarcare.net/popocapoprki.html
http://www.autodetailsupplyoutlet.co...roductid=16378

***NitrousG35*** · 10-24-2007, 06:08 PM

I have used Lake Country pads and they are good stuff. However, when I went to visit Rasky, he put me onto the Meguiar's pads. The Meguiar's pads are much better quality and are more substantial.

http://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm?sectionname=Boat/RV%20Care>Buffing%20Pads/Backing%20Plates>Pads&sectionID=513101

distrbd · 10-24-2007, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdf

Thanks for the response guys. Yeah I used the Lake Country pads before and they were awesome.

Ok I found a bunchh of "package deals". I want to keep it around the $200 range... Thoughts/insights on these? Some better than others?

http://www.superiorcarcare.net/porter-cable-kit.html
http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-udm-inte...over-kit-.html
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-udmsfx-kit.html
http://www.topoftheline.com/porcabpolpac.html
http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable...cessories.html
http://www.superiorcarcare.net/popocapoprki.html
http://www.autodetailsupplyoutlet.co...roductid=16378

Yuo know you always get a better deal when you buy a kit ,instead of buying everything indivdually.
Of all the kits you mentioned I like:
#1=
http://www.topoftheline.com/porcabpolpac.html
#2=
http://www.superiorcarcare.net/porter-cable-kit.html

asdf · 10-24-2007, 07:34 PM

Hum I was thinking about this one http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-udm-inte...over-kit-.html Seems like more stuff. But how good are the products? XMT?

***NitrousG35*** · 10-24-2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdf

Hum I was thinking about this one http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-udm-inte...over-kit-.html Seems like more stuff. But how good are the products? XMT?

Looks like a heck of a deal. Price seems good for all the stuff you get. Products are top notch. I just bought a bunch of mf towels from Autogeek. Great place to do business with!

asdf · 10-24-2007, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

Looks like a heck of a deal. Price seems good for all the stuff you get. Products are top notch. I just bought a bunch of mf towels from Autogeek. Great place to do business with!

Would you choose any other ones over this?

***NitrousG35*** · 10-24-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdf

Would you choose any other ones over this?

Not really. The machine looks great and the price is right. If you look at all that you get-machine, pads, polish, mf towels, it is a great deal. The products are top notch. A lot of products to use comes down to personal preference. If I didn't already have a Porter-Cable and a lot of pads, I would jump on it.

asdf · 10-25-2007, 02:13 AM

thanks for the replies. humm no one else has any say? maybe Rasky?

asdf · 10-26-2007, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdf

thanks for the replies. humm no one else has any say? maybe Rasky?

Anyone else? I want to order after this weekend.

asdf · 10-28-2007, 02:08 AM

asdf · 10-28-2007, 02:22 AM

I know I'm going to need 2-3 white(polish), atleast 2 orange(light cut), and some finishing pads (which ones though, grey or black?) Anything else? Any good sites to check for the pad pricing/ordering?

I will just be doing a few really bad cars, but other than that mostly just mine (just need to remove swirls mostly and freshening up)

truflip · 10-28-2007, 03:02 AM

Get the Ultimate Detailing Machine (UDM) - look it up on Autopia- great reviews!

asdf · 10-30-2007, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdf

I know I'm going to need 2-3 white(polish), atleast 2 orange(light cut), and some finishing pads (which ones though, grey or black?) Anything else? Any good sites to check for the pad pricing/ordering?

I will just be doing a few really bad cars, but other than that mostly just mine (just need to remove swirls mostly and freshening up)

???

***NitrousG35*** · 10-30-2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdf

???

After visiting Rasky's shop, we discussed products and tools to use. Rasky showed me the Meguiar's pads. He liked them better than Lake Country pads. The Meguiar's pads seem more substantial and have a better quality IMO. Here is the Meguiar's site:

http://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm?sectionname=Boat/RV%20Care>Buffing%20Pads/Backing%20Plates>Pads&sectionID=513101

10-24-2007, 02:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Needs some advice on machine Polisher... I've been looking into a machine polisher for some time and ready to buy now. I have very light webbing/swirls and some very light scratches; all are mostly on the truck/hood for some reason... I've used the Porter-Cable 7424 before, but it's been awhile. I now see there is something new out, the "Ultimate Detailing Machine". Is there any difference between the two? What pads should I be looking to get? Or is there a really good 'bang for the buck' package deal out? I have a few things left over from Meguairs when I had the 7424; Meguiar's #9 and #83; and newer stuff NXT wax and clay bar. Is there anything else I should look into picking up? tia! Last edited by asdf; 10-24-2007 at 02:54 AM.

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10-24-2007, 02:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
antiprnt Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: manatee county, fl Age: 23 Posts: 37 iTrader: 0 / 0%	The ultimate detail machine is basically a porter cable 7424 on steriods. Its modded to be almost as powerful as a rotary. Running it on speed 4 is like running your porter cable 7424 on speed 6. You can use it the same as a 7424. It can take the same pads.

10-24-2007, 02:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I remember reading not to use it at the high of speeds?

10-24-2007, 03:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Anyone...

10-24-2007, 05:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
*NitrousG35* Mr. Cowl Induction Join Date: May 2007 Location: To Infiniti and beyond... Posts: 9,812 Wild VTEC'n Bill iTrader: 3 / 100%	I don't know anything about the Ultimate Detail machine, but Rasky might. I did find out on the Meguiar's website that they are coming out with a new machine that is supposed to be the latest and greatest in orbital machines: http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/thread/40065.aspx

10-24-2007, 05:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
distrbd Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto ,Canada Posts: 269 ken iTrader: 0 / 0%	For your PC /UDM future use I would recommend getting : 1)CCS 6.5 inch Smart Pads™ Dual Action Foam Pads by Lake Country.(one blue ,two white ,one orange) 2)Poorboy's SSR 1 ,PB SSR 2.5 . its a good start.

10-24-2007, 05:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Thanks for the response guys. Yeah I used the Lake Country pads before and they were awesome. Ok I found a bunchh of "package deals". I want to keep it around the $200 range... Thoughts/insights on these? Some better than others? http://www.superiorcarcare.net/porter-cable-kit.html http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-udm-inte...over-kit-.html http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-udmsfx-kit.html http://www.topoftheline.com/porcabpolpac.html http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable...cessories.html http://www.superiorcarcare.net/popocapoprki.html http://www.autodetailsupplyoutlet.co...roductid=16378

10-24-2007, 06:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
*NitrousG35* Mr. Cowl Induction Join Date: May 2007 Location: To Infiniti and beyond... Posts: 9,812 Wild VTEC'n Bill iTrader: 3 / 100%	I have used Lake Country pads and they are good stuff. However, when I went to visit Rasky, he put me onto the Meguiar's pads. The Meguiar's pads are much better quality and are more substantial. http://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm?sectionname=Boat/RV%20Care>Buffing%20Pads/Backing%20Plates>Pads&sectionID=513101

10-24-2007, 07:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Hum I was thinking about this one http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-udm-inte...over-kit-.html Seems like more stuff. But how good are the products? XMT?

10-25-2007, 02:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%	thanks for the replies. humm no one else has any say? maybe Rasky?

10-28-2007, 02:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%

10-28-2007, 02:22 AM	#17 (permalink)
asdf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 885 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I know I'm going to need 2-3 white(polish), atleast 2 orange(light cut), and some finishing pads (which ones though, grey or black?) Anything else? Any good sites to check for the pad pricing/ordering? I will just be doing a few really bad cars, but other than that mostly just mine (just need to remove swirls mostly and freshening up)

10-28-2007, 03:02 AM	#18 (permalink)
truflip Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Age: 22 Posts: 7,613 iTrader: 11 / 100%	Get the Ultimate Detailing Machine (UDM) - look it up on Autopia- great reviews!