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Old 02-11-2009, 01:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well, the m7 put on after was just to add a wet look and it was applied by hand. This was purely done to add a wet look. In person the paint looks phenomonal.
I took this trick from Mike Phillips, a very skilled detailer and who knows meguiars products more than anyone on this planet.
Really? He said use it as an LSP? or apply it by hand? A GLAZE is not a wax, hence the name glaze.

Quoted from Autogeek. Highlighted to show point. Source: Meguiars #7 Show Car Glaze is a final step auto glaze to enhanced the gloss prior to wax application. Get a show car shine with Meguiars #7 Show Car
"Renowned for its superb glimmering finish, #7 Show Car Glaze is legendary among those who swear by the hand-rubbed philosophy. But it achieves splendid results when applied by orbital buffer or dual action polisher, also. This is a true showman’s glaze originally developed for the avid collector, serious enthusiast and show-car exhibitor. The depth of shine is nothing short of stunning!

Meguiar’s #7 Show Car Glaze is a true high-yield polish with no protective qualities. Be certain to follow application with a coat of top-quality wax such as Meguiar’s Premium Paint Protection or Meguiar’s Hi-Tech Paste Wax #26. The rich emollients and nourishing oils in #7 Show Car Glaze produce a very deep, heavy mirror-gloss shine. #7 is safe to use on all paints and clear coats.

Whether you’re ready to show or just show off, Meguiar’s #7 Show Car Glaze is equipped to deliver the ultimate high-sheen finish. When you’re that serious; get the glaze the pros use--#7 Show Car Glaze!"


Here's another source: Meguiar’s No. 7 Show Car Glaze


and another source Autopia Review: Paint Polish, Cleaners & Compounds: Meguiars M07 Show Car Glaze

Furthermore, to define a GLAZE: "A glaze is a shine-enhancing product that goes on after polishing but before the wax or sealant. It is made with oils and wetting agents that amplify your paint’s shine and improve the clarity. Glazes are usually used by auto manufacturers and paint and body shops to prefect freshly painted surfaces before the vehicle is handed over to the consumer. Glazes generally do not have protective qualities, but they may have fillers that hide any slight imperfections in the paint. A glaze is often used by a body shop after compounding to restore the shine and eliminate haze.

A glaze is not a polish or wax. It is strictly a shine-enhancing agent that will produce a dramatic wet look on your paint. On the concours series, a glaze is essential to achieve a winning deep gloss. Most glazes have no protective qualities so always follow with a wax or sealant."

I can keep going all day long.
all stating that #7 is not an LSP and has no protective qualities. I'm sure you misunderstood what Mike Phillips was saying. I wouldn't argue with him, but I doubt he'd recommend using #7 as an LSP as it would defeat the purpose of the detail.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
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This is interesting. I know Maiku knows what he's saying for sure, and in the theory (that I understand) back what he said up.
I guess there might be something that I still don't know? Waiting for the detail master "rasky" to chime in.
So my word is no good? Rasky has to come to the rescue? LOL. I think I covered it well enough. Let that man rest a little.
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pretty big difference between before/after

thanks for providing some links for info maiku
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ummm maiku, The #7 afterwards was not used technically correct. I understood that before and after. The trick is to make it look extra wet temporarily. To help show off that beautiful paint. Just to add a temporary extra wet look. Paint has already been sealed, m7 to my knowledge has no aggressive abrasives, I could be wrong. It was an extremely light coat applied by hand. Mike Phillips shows the tricks in one of his videos I purchased and watched 2 times. Regardless I've seen him do it I can't say I was mistaken.

Yes technically the glaze should have gone after the 205. However again (yes I can keep going too) I was purely using the m7 as a temporary added bonus for the customer if you will. That inital shocker factor. I am not trying to boast but my customer was FLOORED when we brought his car back to him. Paint has two coats of sealer on it. It's safe.

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No doubt the car looks great. I'm sure the pictures don't do it justice, they usually don't.
I see where your coming from though. I don't have much experience with it, but the Glaze part of it set off an alert that it's usually not an LSP, even Mike Phillips explains that; "By the way, as someone else commented, usually, #7 is applied first, then wax is applied over it. This is because the #7 is water soluble and the wax isn't', thus the wax will act to "Lock" or "Seal" in the #7."
but he also made it sound like it's okay to put it as a last minute finish at a car show to get that extra shine. He'd know best. He also said it's intended mainly for single stage paints (not Honda's!) Here's his article. Meguiar's #7, by Mike Phillips - Autopia.org

It was the line from Autogeek that reads "Meguiar’s #7 Show Car Glaze is a true high-yield polish with no protective qualities. Be certain to follow application with a coat of top-quality wax such as Meguiar’s Premium Paint Protection or Meguiar’s Hi-Tech Paste Wax #26. The rich emollients and nourishing oils in #7 Show Car Glaze produce a very deep, heavy mirror-gloss shine. #7 is safe to use on all paints and clear coats."
That obviously lead me to believe it was a polish and could possibly remove the wax you had 1st applied. They should remove that statement if it has no abrasives to avoid confusion.
I was just trying to look out for you bud. I'd hate to see that guy coming back complaining the water wasting beading or something, lol.
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nice work man but please find some oem tail lights it would be perfect
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Contrary to belief, I'd rather have an EM1 than FG2. If it wasn't for the EM1's getting stolen after leaving it in a parking lot for 2 min. I'd have one!

Looks very clean man, and bring the OEM tails back!
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