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[Izzy]

That's Tim's FIRST retro, where they were using a different sealing compound (Nissan, IIRC). I believe Bjorn is using the toyota stuff now, which seems to cake more than the old stuff.

For whatever reason, the second set also seems to be set further back in, which may be the reason it sticks out back more.

Oddly, my set-up has no rear shots.
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[Phalanx]

Originally Posted by dt07Si

I would save the images and host them myself but I can't save them.

Click on both of the links. look at the individual pictures of the back side of the headlights.

the first one is much cleaner looking and has a ring or donut that is holding the projector in place.

the scond one doesn't and just has what appears to be the Toyota headlight sealant applied and holding it in place.

both are the same projectors so I am trying to figure out why. The first headlight looks much cleaner than the second.

Ahh, I see what youre talking about now. Yea... the 1st one Looks cleaner... but Im sure theres a good reason why they changed it. Plus, its on the back side... so not a big deal

[jrMartinez24]

Originally Posted by Izzy

That's Tim's FIRST retro, where they were using a different sealing compound (Nissan, IIRC). I believe Bjorn is using the toyota stuff now, which seems to cake more than the old stuff.

For whatever reason, the second set also seems to be set further back in, which may be the reason it sticks out back more.

I agree...I have TYPE X's old 1's and his has the same thing as Tim's......maybe b/c they were the older 1's.....I am assuming they have upgraded their techniques

[dt07Si]

Originally Posted by Izzy

That's Tim's FIRST retro, where they were using a different sealing compound (Nissan, IIRC). I believe Bjorn is using the toyota stuff now, which seems to cake more than the old stuff.

For whatever reason, the second set also seems to be set further back in, which may be the reason it sticks out back more.

Oddly, my set-up has no rear shots.
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I can understand them changing sealant compounds but I'd like to know if there is a reason why they stopped using the ring/donut to secure the projector. Maybe theres something I'm missing but I don't see why they couldn't use that ring and just the new/better sealant?

Originally Posted by PhalanX

Ahh, I see what youre talking about now. Yea... the 1st one Looks cleaner... but Im sure theres a good reason why they changed it. Plus, its on the back side... so not a big deal

Yeah its on the backside, but to me a part of a well done retro is a clean backside and that is one of the harder parts of a retro. To me the retros that have stood out to em are the ones that functions well and looked good not only front the front but from the back. Attention to detail.

Originally Posted by jrMartinez24

I agree...I have TYPE X's old 1's and his has the same thing as Tim's......maybe b/c they were the older 1's.....I am assuming they have upgraded their techniques

I would assume so also, i guess we'll just have to wait and see what bjorn says.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by dt07Si

I can understand them changing sealant compounds but I'd like to know if there is a reason why they stopped using the ring/donut to secure the projector. Maybe theres something I'm missing but I don't see why they couldn't use that ring and just the new/better sealant?



Yeah its on the backside, but to me a part of a well done retro is a clean backside and that is one of the harder parts of a retro. To me the retros that have stood out to em are the ones that functions well and looked good not only front the front but from the back. Attention to detail.



I would assume so also, i guess we'll just have to wait and see what bjorn says.

I'm still a little blind as to what "donut" you're referring to. I'm looking at the back area of the housing where you can clearly see the white residue of the old sealant on Tim's retro. I do believe that part is already there, IIRC.

Mine are in-set just as much as Tim's are, so the only thing really sticking out of the back is just enough for the D2S bulb to attach unto.

Are you talking about the part behind the MDX shroud? Again, this may be a byproduct of how the projector was mounted, as opposed to "quality control".

[dt07Si]

Originally Posted by Izzy

I'm still a little blind as to what "donut" you're referring to. I'm looking at the back area of the housing where you can clearly see the white residue of the old sealant on Tim's retro. I do believe that part is already there, IIRC.

Mine are in-set just as much as Tim's are, so the only thing really sticking out of the back is just enough for the D2S bulb to attach unto.

Are you talking about the part behind the MDX shroud? Again, this may be a byproduct of how the projector was mounted, as opposed to "quality control".

I don't know what else to call it.

But I don't know how your not seeing what I am seeing. Just look at the area immediately surrounding or wrapped around the back of the projector.

On Tim's headlights there is a perfectly circular black piece covered in what looks like silicone (white/clear residue). I don't think it is part of the OEM headlight housing but maybe I'm wrong.

And then on the second set of photos, that perfectly circular piece is no longer there and instead there is just the sealant applied.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by dt07Si

On Tim's headlights there is a perfectly circular black piece covered in what looks like silicone (white/clear residue). I don't think it is part of the OEM headlight housing but maybe I'm wrong.

And then on the second set of photos, that perfectly circular piece is no longer there and instead there is just the sealant applied.

That part, I'm sure is there from the start. Hell, I can check right now on my car if you want. The second set with the black shrouds is set waaaaaaaay back, apparently, so the projector housing itself is sticking further back, necessitating the use of the large clump of sealant.

[brdhouse]

Here's mine. I was hoping to get some better pics (cutoff/wall shots and whatnot), but we've had snow here for awhile, and the forecast doesn't call for anything much over 20°, so this is probably going to have to do. lol.

Not a day goes by that I'm not thankful for these beautiful retros. best mod ever... Custom Lightz FTW, indeed!

S2k/MDX:

[Izzy]

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/_MG_0207.jpg

^-- Beautiful shot!

[dt07Si]

Originally Posted by Izzy

That part, I'm sure is there from the start. Hell, I can check right now on my car if you want. The second set with the black shrouds is set waaaaaaaay back, apparently, so the projector housing itself is sticking further back, necessitating the use of the large clump of sealant.

Idk man, maybe its the pictures but that piece doesn't appear to be on the second headlight.

[Izzy]

Here's a newer retro: http://www.customlightz.com/gallery/...a/civic18h.jpg

It has that "ring" around the back as well. Again, it may be just the way the retro you're referring to is designed. The housing sits back, therefore, so seal off the housing from the projector and to keep water out, they caulked the adhesive all over it.

[dt07Si]

Originally Posted by Izzy

Here's a newer retro: http://www.customlightz.com/gallery/...a/civic18h.jpg

It has that "ring" around the back as well. Again, it may be just the way the retro you're referring to is designed. The housing sits back, therefore, so seal off the housing from the projector and to keep water out, they caulked the adhesive all over it.

yeah your right that pic does have the "ring" also and it does appear as if in the other retro they just used much more sealant and actually covered it with the sealant.

My conclusion as of now, it appears as if they used to used a silicon based (or clearish) sealant with the projector not as far set back and have now gone the black Toyota headlight sealant and set the projectors farther back.

On another note that Galaxy Grey Si above looks great! I like the way the black mid section of the lip ties in with the black retro.

[JCool]

I thought that is was a cool shot.

[vincentek9]

dang you guys love tsx projectors. lol

[dt07Si]

^^^ Thats because they are realatively easy to get ahold of, not too expensive, and perform great for the money!

[mgmind]

love those tsx projecters !

[vtecsir85]

lexus RX330 projectors with MDX shrouds

[-Bionic-]

Nice Cars!


Let me try to answer the question here. Our projectors sit slightly further back now then they used to in the very beginning. Postitioning the projectors further back looks better. As far as the back of the headlight, we cannot simply place the rubber grommet back on, because our projectors would touch the "inner" ring. Thus, elimminating proper alignment.

I know some retrofitters re-use the rubber grommet, but that's because their projectors are placed closer to the front. With a little trimming, however, we could fit the grommet back on. Personally, the back of the headlight is not nearly as important as the front of the headlight, nor is it anywhere close to the washer mod, and alignment.

The sealant used on the back of the headlight is the "Nissan OEM" headlight/taillight sealant, and cost about $20 for two headlights. It would be in my interest to use the rubber grommet, but I personally know that the nissan sealant protects the headlights from the outer elements a lot better than a rubber piece.

Second, we certaintly don't use clear silicone on the back. You realize that silicone gets really stiff and hard, thus, you would loose the adjustment functionality.

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If there is a general consensus/request to use the rubber grommet instead of the Nissan headight sealant, I will most certaintly comply. It's an easy request. But by all means don't think it's a matter of detail or quality, since the insentive was to place something much more expensive and resistant than the oem grommet.


Thanks for posting the picks here.

Bjorn

[dt07Si]

Thanks for clearing that up Bjorn. I figured you made the change for a good reason, I just wasn't sure what it was exactly.

[JCool]

good quality, I like.