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Old 06-26-2009, 05:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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To help ATR users with posting different table information, easy as copy and paste...

We wanted to start this thread to help out AccessTUNER Race (ATR) users with communicating how they have made various changes to different ECU tables.

Step 1 - Go to the ATR software and highlight the entire table content you are looking to post, press CTRL+C to copy all highlighted table data.
Step 2 - Start a thread on your favorite forum. In the body of that post press CTRL+V to past all copied ATR table data. Enter the following text before [code] and after [/code] the table data...remember BRACKETS AND SLASHES MUST BE USED APPROPRIATELY. Please be sure to preview your post so you can verify the table data is displayed appropriately. This format may not work on all forums, but I know it works here.
Step 3 - Rinse and repeat so all of your ATR buddies can easily post various ECU calibration data up for others to test, critique, and enjoy. .

Intake Cam Phasing CL/High VTEC
Code:
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	8.0	9.0	10.0	10.0	10.0	10.0	10.0	10.0	10.0	6.0	5.0	5.0	5.0	5.0
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	13.0	14.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	11.0	10.0	10.0	10.0	10.0
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	17.5	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	16.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	15.0
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	20.0	25.0	22.5	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	20.0	25.0	22.5	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	15.0	15.0	15.0	20.0	25.0	25.0	25.0	25.0	25.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0	20.0
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	10.0	25.0	25.0	25.0	28.3	31.7	30.0	29.2	26.7	26.7	23.3	23.0	22.7	22.3	22.0	21.7
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	20.0	35.0	35.0	35.0	36.7	38.3	35.0	33.3	28.3	28.3	26.7	26.0	25.3	24.7	24.0	23.3
0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	30.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	40.0	37.5	30.0	30.0	30.0	29.0	28.0	27.0	26.0	25.0
Ign Adv OL/High VTEC @ 40 Cam Advance
Code:
45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0
45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0
45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	44.9	43.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0
45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	41.1	40.0	42.2	43.5	43.5	43.5	43.5
45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	45.0	44.5	43.7	43.5	41.3	40.0	38.5	37.0	38.5	39.1	39.0	39.0	39.0
44.0	44.0	44.0	44.0	44.0	44.0	44.0	42.0	40.0	38.8	37.5	36.5	34.0	34.3	35.0	35.3	35.7	36.0	36.0	36.0
39.5	39.5	39.5	39.5	39.5	39.5	37.0	36.2	35.4	35.0	34.5	33.6	32.8	33.5	33.5	33.8	34.2	34.5	34.5	34.5
34.0	34.0	34.0	34.0	34.0	34.0	30.0	30.4	30.8	31.1	31.5	31.2	31.5	32.0	32.5	32.8	33.2	33.5	33.5	33.5
33.2	33.2	33.2	33.2	33.2	33.2	30.0	30.4	30.8	31.1	31.5	31.3	31.2	31.1	31.0	31.3	31.7	32.0	32.0	32.0
32.8	32.8	32.8	32.8	32.8	32.8	30.0	30.4	30.8	31.1	31.5	30.9	30.8	30.1	30.0	30.3	30.7	31.0	31.0	31.0
MAF Sensor
Code:
0.00	0.00	0.01	0.20	0.66	1.10	1.49	1.70	1.97	2.13	2.39	2.68	3.07	3.45	3.93	4.39	4.75	5.24	5.68	6.15	6.64	7.25	8.04	8.73	9.42	10.49	11.04	11.64	12.92	13.58	14.69	15.58	16.24	17.85	18.77	19.96	20.88	22.18	23.28	24.54	25.79	27.62	28.77	31.58	35.07	40.42	48.35	55.82	60.61	69.09	77.32	86.49	96.21	106.56	117.59	129.38	141.95	150.79	164.72	179.45	195.07	211.71	261.33	289.03
Idle Target RPM
Code:
1500	1500	1500	1500	1500	1050	750	750
Throttle Table A = JDM FD2 Throttle Table Settings
Code:
0.0	1.6	3.2	4.8	6.1	8.2	10.4	12.4	15.2	19.3	23.9	41.8	60.0	84.0	100.0
0.0	1.6	3.2	4.8	6.1	8.2	10.4	12.4	15.2	19.3	23.9	41.8	60.0	84.0	100.0
0.0	1.6	3.2	4.8	6.1	8.2	10.4	12.4	15.2	19.3	23.9	41.8	60.0	84.0	100.0
0.0	3.6	4.5	5.4	7.4	9.8	12.4	15.2	18.7	22.8	28.8	43.2	61.6	85.5	100.0
0.0	4.0	5.2	6.4	8.4	11.2	14.3	17.9	21.6	26.7	33.6	47.3	65.8	88.8	100.0
0.0	4.4	5.9	7.3	9.5	12.6	16.1	20.4	25.0	31.5	39.5	54.6	69.9	90.8	100.0
0.0	4.8	6.6	8.3	10.7	14.0	17.9	22.7	27.6	35.7	45.7	61.2	73.9	90.8	100.0
0.0	5.3	7.2	9.2	11.9	15.2	19.5	24.6	30.5	40.8	51.7	67.8	77.7	90.8	100.0
0.0	5.5	7.9	10.3	13.0	16.8	21.2	27.0	34.0	46.5	60.1	73.6	81.6	90.8	100.0
0.0	5.9	8.6	11.4	14.2	18.2	22.7	29.2	37.8	52.8	64.9	77.7	84.0	90.8	100.0
0.0	6.2	9.4	12.4	15.1	19.2	24.2	31.2	41.5	57.6	67.6	80.4	84.0	90.8	100.0
0.0	6.2	9.4	12.7	16.3	20.5	26.1	33.4	45.6	61.2	69.9	80.4	84.0	90.8	100.0
0.0	6.2	9.4	13.0	16.8	21.4	28.0	35.8	48.0	62.7	71.4	80.4	84.0	90.8	100.0
0.0	6.2	9.4	13.0	16.8	22.2	29.5	37.2	50.9	64.0	73.1	80.4	84.0	90.8	100.0
0.0	6.2	9.4	13.0	16.8	23.0	31.6	41.5	53.7	66.7	74.8	80.4	84.0	90.8	100.0
You are welcome to quote this post so you can get a better idea about how the text and data needs to be formatted. The process is super easy to be honest, give it a try.

The same simple copy and paste functions can be used from this thread to the ATR software as well. Just use your mouse cursor to highlight the appropriate areas, copy the data and paste into ATR for testing. Please remember, as the Beta ATR software evolves, some table data may change due to changes in data conversions, formats, being Standard or Metric units, etc.

We hope this helps,
COBB Calibration Team.
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Oh aren't you sneaky! Throwing the FD2 throttle table in there at the end.

Thanks for the tip. This'll help when I'm trying to explain things to peeps.
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Can I use that Throttle table and dont change anything else?
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Can I use that Throttle table and dont change anything else?
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Thats what I did^
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Thats what I did^
Any comments on how it changes the way the throttle input is? I'm stuck at work so I can't do anything with this on my car till later. If Cobb had 64-bit drivers I could install ATR at work, but alas, I cannot.
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rpm vs actual pedal position vs corrected pedal position.

hmmmmmmm

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Old 06-26-2009, 08:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yeah, it seems like it would help with rev matching. As you'd probably get more juice out of a quick blip of the throttle. At least that's what I'm hoping.
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^^ yeah from looking at it, a quick throttle blip at a higher rpm would be more responsive from looking at this table.

If you look on a graph at what this curve looks like vs stock. Ours is very linear, across the board.

ON the type-r curve, at high rpms 50% throttle is much more responsive vs our car.

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When you copy it & paste it into the table you can hold ctrl+V to paste and then ctrl+z undo. You can keep toggling it to see the comparison from before to after. Also check out the model (if applicable)

Uploading FD2 throttle settings map now
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When you copy it & paste it into the table you can hold ctrl+V to paste and then ctrl+z undo. You can keep toggling it to see the comparison from before to after. Also check out the model (if applicable)

Uploading FD2 throttle settings map now
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How is it? Is it too aggressive? I am at work until midnight but I want to try this out tomorrow. Thanks.
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word. I want to hear more feedback about the throttle map. This tinkering is too cool for school. at the same time, I'm kind of underwhelmed with stage 1. I wish I had used the dyno feature before I flashed it on to see what stage 1 did, because I honestly don't feel much of a difference. It is nice to know my fuel trim is more accurate now though!

I will definitely compare stage 1 to 2 if I can ever get a header!
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I added the throttle table to my current tune. I can't notice too much of a difference.

Except more sensitive throttle at high rpms.

If you look at how it changes our throttle curve you would see why.
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I added the throttle table to my current tune. I can't notice too much of a difference.

Except more sensitive throttle at high rpms.

If you look at how it changes our throttle curve you would see why.
Yeah, it just seems like its more edgy. Which is good for aggressive driving. If you've spent a lot of time on the back roads or on the track you'd notice more of a difference. I just drove around a bit with it, and I have to say that I like how it just kinda makes the car take off without too much throttle input.
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word. I want to hear more feedback about the throttle map. This tinkering is too cool for school. at the same time, I'm kind of underwhelmed with stage 1. I wish I had used the dyno feature before I flashed it on to see what stage 1 did, because I honestly don't feel much of a difference. It is nice to know my fuel trim is more accurate now though!

I will definitely compare stage 1 to 2 if I can ever get a header!
I hear you on the underwhelmed part. You need a header man. Just get it done. Stop fooling around. Get a Strup or a Vibrant w/o cat. It's so worth it. If you get a header with a cat you'll regret it. A catless header is the only way you'll feel the difference in power.
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I want a header with hfc since I'm cali though, and I hear the vibrant with hfc makes comparable power as without a hfc (I hear they are within 1-3hp of each other). I got a seller lined up *crosses fingers* but he's waiting for his turbo to come in lol. Maybe in a couple weeks!

I was actually surprised, after my catback, my car definite has the "pull" I wanted in vtec...not I just want a bit more plus a bit more midrange, which apparently the vibrant is good for. Once I get that, I'll see how I feel about the AP.
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I am at work on duty so I had some time to look at the numbers. I compared the FD2 vs. the FG2/FA5 tables and found that a couple of numbers have decreased on the lower revs.

Could it be that since the FD2 naturally has more power that the throttle response was toned down and with the Si having less power the throttle increased?

Will it be safe for me to incorporate the higher numbers of the two tables into one hybrid setting ?
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I want a header with hfc since I'm cali though, and I hear the vibrant with hfc makes comparable power as without a hfc (I hear they are within 1-3hp of each other). I got a seller lined up *crosses fingers* but he's waiting for his turbo to come in lol. Maybe in a couple weeks!

I was actually surprised, after my catback, my car definite has the "pull" I wanted in vtec...not I just want a bit more plus a bit more midrange, which apparently the vibrant is good for. Once I get that, I'll see how I feel about the AP.
Damned CHP, that sucks. Cat's are teh lose.

Yeah, I was underwhelmed by my Vibrant until I got the AP. And actually at first I was underwhelmed by the AP. But after all this tinkering we've all been doing, my car is seriously quick for how stock it really is. So I'm enjoying my investment. My engine's only running CAI and Header, stock exhaust and no other mods.

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I am at work on duty so I had some time to look at the numbers. I compared the FD2 vs. the FG2/FA5 tables and found that a couple of numbers have decreased on the lower revs.

Could it be that since the FD2 naturally has more power that the throttle response was toned down and with the Si having less power the throttle increased?

Will it be safe for me to incorporate the higher numbers of the two tables into one hybrid setting ?
That's exactly what I was going to do. The FD2 has a 5.06 FD, and a better mid-range, so they toned down the throttle in the midrange to keep it more linear. If you take the time to interpolate the numbers, please share!
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