Laying a bit of rubber in a FG2

[TinoCivicSi]

I have an 07 FG2 (up here in canada we didn't get the VSA until the 08 model) and I've noticed over the weekend when we were doing some burnouts at a photoshoot that if I had the wheels straight I would get a fair bit of wheel hop and a shuttering like the car is trying to hookup and spin at the same time.

But if I turn the wheel a bit it would open up and allow the spin... I'm assuming this has to do with the helical locking differential but I'm not 100%

Anybody have any suggestions/comments aside for the 'ur an idiot for smoking your tires!'. I could go to my mom for those

[habitat]

Interesting observation, the wheel hop and shutter is the nature of our cars FF layout. It maybe possible that the LSD is providing all the torque to one wheel forcing complete loss of traction...

Originally Posted by howstuffworks.com

The Torsen (from Torque Sensing) works as an open differential when the amount of torque going to each wheel is equal. As soon as one wheel starts to lose traction, the difference in torque causes the gears in the Torsen differential to bind together. The design of the gears in the differential determines the torque bias ratio. For instance, if a particular Torsen differential is designed with a 5:1 bias ratio, it is capable of applying up to five times more torque to the wheel that has good traction.

However, if one set of wheels loses traction completely, the Torsen differential will be unable to supply any torque to the other set of wheels. The bias ratio determines how much torque can be transferred, and five times zero is zero.

[B-Stylz]

Isn't there a fix for the wheel hop? An engine mount stiffner.

[volvo9]

Originally Posted by B-Stylz

Isn't there a fix for the wheel hop? An engine mount stiffner.

Stiffer mounts help out a lot. The less the engine and trans can wobble around the better. My brother had bad wheel hop in his SE-R till he got motor mount inserts, then it was pretty much gone after that.

[bkarno]

Tru Dat! Motor mounts help on ton on FWD cars with excessive wheel hop.

[ray]

It's called castor. If you'll notice, as you turn the front wheels of a car (any car) away from center they are no longer parallel to the pavement. This is due to the fact that the kingpins are laid back (top towards the rear of the car). As you turn the steering wheel the contact patches of the tires are reduced as the inside edge of the tire is forced into the pavement and the outside edge is unloaded. This is to load the inside front wheel and pick up the outside front, which in turn unloads the inside rear wheel--which is required to allow a four-wheeled vehicle to turn in anything more than a cursory manner.

I would imagine if you google the term 'castor' you can find all kinds of information illustrating the principle.

[knowledge_6]

the 08 models still don;t have VSA in canada... cause if they did i got ripped off...

i have a blank (well now fog light button) plug where the VSA button should be

[TinoCivicSi]

Thanks guys... makes a bit of sense... I guess for launching out on the strip the upgraded engine mounts will definetly help reduce the bouncing.

Originally Posted by knowledge_6

the 08 models still don;t have VSA in canada... cause if they did i got ripped off...

i have a blank (well now fog light button) plug where the VSA button should be

hmm... I guess I was wrong on that then too... I don't know if I would even want the VSA really... I can't think of a time that it would have actually engaged in the last 9 months of owning the vehicle.

Thats what I'm suprised with on this car, stability and grip is amazing even for a FWD car

[ray]

Oops, make that caster.

Caster angle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[B-Stylz]

This is what you need and what I spoke about.

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[BladeAZ]

Originally Posted by ray

Oops, make that caster.

Caster angle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"castor" is actually an accepted variant of the word. :)

[D.ryan]

can i get some more information on these mounts. Where can i get them, how much are they, how hard are they to install.. Thanx all...

[NASAMike]

Get one. They help

[EvilSardine]

Heh, I noticed the same thing as well.

I was at my local race track making a left turn (wheels slightly turned) and waiting for other race car drivers to pass, once they did I revved up to 4000 and let her loose. She peeled out and darted away.

A few days later, I was with my race car co-pilot after dropping off my friend at racing school, and he asked me "Have you launched this thing before?"

Silly question to ask a race car driver on a closed circuit I said to myself. So this time, I did the same thing, only it was on a straight away with the wheels straight. It did nothing but wheel hop so I had to ease off the gas. :\

[D.ryan]

Originally Posted by NASAMike

Get one. They help

but this still doesnt tell me how to get one

[perral1]

Originally Posted by D.ryan

but this still doesnt tell me how to get one

That's because someone already did:

Originally Posted by B-Stylz

This is what you need and what I spoke about.

CorSport Online Store: Honda - 06+ Civic - 93038