07 Si traction control?

***CaliGuy*** · 06-25-2006, 11:45 PM

I just read (on another post here) that the 07 Si will be coming with traction control. Can anyone verify this? Also, how exactly does traction control work?

Thanks all:)

xtv-sidecar · 06-26-2006, 12:00 AM

I dont know about that but it would not surprise me. Takeing apart the dash you see all kind of stuff that is not used and have to wonder what is that spot for...

brooklynscat69 · 06-26-2006, 12:04 AM

Yep Dnieves told me the same thing. 07 will be getting tractioncontrol.

CivicWithNav · 06-26-2006, 01:04 AM

it will most likely be a cheap TCS...which uses wheel sensor and ABS(which is already there) to brake and reduce throttle(DBW) when wheel slippage is detected

aodmisery · 06-26-2006, 01:25 AM

i dont think its traction control its getting, but the new si's will be getting vsa which makes me mad cause us 06 owners dont get it. wonder if the price of the si will go up again and will our si's be worth less

***CaliGuy*** · 06-26-2006, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aodmisery

i dont think its traction control its getting, but the new si's will be getting vsa which makes me mad cause us 06 owners dont get it. wonder if the price of the si will go up again and will our si's be worth less

vsa?

khunthun · 06-26-2006, 01:53 AM

Does the Si really need the traction control(TCS/VSA) since we already have a LSD?

aodmisery · 06-26-2006, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliGuy

vsa?

vsa=vehicle stability assist
heres the article:http://www.collegehillshonda.com/art...icle_474.shtml

CivicWithNav · 06-26-2006, 01:59 AM

TCS maybe not...but VSA(vehicle stability assist...honda's name for it) is crucial and woudl benefit on EVERY CAR out there.

it has sensors out the wazoo to monitor your cars position, speed, wheel angle and what not and as soon as you begin to slide sideways it will immediately correct it.

khunthun · 06-26-2006, 02:05 AM

Hmmm...I guess VSA would benefit us. I have VSA in my TL, I only see it in action(blinking exclamation point) when the tires are slipping. I don't know about it assisting in other ways, but I wouldn't know.

larryd · 06-26-2006, 02:22 AM

I would think that VSA would be a bad thing for people who actually want to push the car to its limits and ofcourse those who use the Si to autox unless ofcourse you can turn it on/off when you want.

khunthun · 06-26-2006, 02:27 AM

I am pretty sure the VSA could be turned off. VSA in my TL can be turned off but I think I read somewhere in the manual it will come back on after you pass a certain speed.

**Gonzo** · 06-26-2006, 03:18 AM

Hopefully you will have the option of turning it off. Nice that they will add it.

2evolved · 06-26-2006, 09:47 AM

Traction control? No thank... Had something called VDC on the G35 and it causing lots of problems controlling the car yourself.

Sure traction control is great and could be life saving for the daily driver but for someone who wants to pull quick turns once in a while it could wreck your car thanks to the traction control. Also you couldn't burn out, chirp, or break anything loose with traction on.

Even turning it off on the G35 it still had some type of traction control that you needed to do some hard wiring to get rid of.

***Jaranath*** · 06-26-2006, 01:05 PM

If I'm reading the College Hills Honda article correctly, the Civic may not be getting VSA. The bit in question is this:

"The completion is signaled by standard application of anti-lock brakes (ABS), driver and front passenger side airbags with front passenger position sensors, and side curtain airbags to virtually all Honda and Acura passenger vehicles- from the subcompact Fit to the Ridgeline pickup truck - as well as Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) and rollover sensors for the side curtain airbags on all light trucks."

The boldface part (added by me) is what I question. This could be interpreted as meaning that only all light trucks are getting VSA, not all Honda models.

***Izzy*** · 06-26-2006, 01:08 PM

The graph in that article shows that the VSA is Si only (as in, not other civic models, if I read it right), once it comes out for the '07 model year. Although, I see what you're saying.

Ah well, it won't make me love the car any less...until the 2009 version comes out with just that little bit more horsepower. :P

***Jaranath*** · 06-26-2006, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

The graph in that article shows that the VSA is Si only (as in, not other civic models, if I read it right), once it comes out for the '07 model year. Although, I see what you're saying.

Ah well, it won't make me love the car any less...until the 2009 version comes out with just that little bit more horsepower. :P

Oh fer!

I didn't see that table. Stopped reading when it started descending into the typical corporate PR boilerplate...

radiocontrolhead · 06-26-2006, 04:34 PM

we need vsa because of that guy who rolled over their car! tightsi i think it was.

skittleslegend · 06-26-2006, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaranath

If I'm reading the College Hills Honda article correctly, the Civic may not be getting VSA. The bit in question is this:

"The completion is signaled by standard application of anti-lock brakes (ABS), driver and front passenger side airbags with front passenger position sensors, and side curtain airbags to virtually all Honda and Acura passenger vehicles- from the subcompact Fit to the Ridgeline pickup truck - as well as Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) and rollover sensors for the side curtain airbags on all light trucks."

The boldface part (added by me) is what I question. This could be interpreted as meaning that only all light trucks are getting VSA, not all Honda models.

The Civic gets Stability Control in 2007. My car has it. And yes, it has an on-off switch. And it's going to stay off until winter...

I'll take a pic if someone wants, but you'll have to wait, because I just did a teardown of the interior and I can't find half my sh*t. lol.

BLU BY U · 06-26-2006, 05:15 PM

i've had 2 vehicles with traction control, always turned it off. The only reason they are putting it on is because the GTI has it, they must be throwing it in to slap them in the face. Personally i think its a waste of money if you actually know how to drive your vehicle.

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06-26-2006, 12:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
xtv-sidecar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the x-mas tree. Posts: 1,869 Kevin iTrader: 6 / 100%	I dont know about that but it would not surprise me. Takeing apart the dash you see all kind of stuff that is not used and have to wonder what is that spot for...

06-26-2006, 12:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
brooklynscat69 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brentwood, NY Posts: 1,874 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yep Dnieves told me the same thing. 07 will be getting tractioncontrol.

06-26-2006, 01:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
CivicWithNav Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Woodstock MD Posts: 2,566 iTrader: 13 / 100%	it will most likely be a cheap TCS...which uses wheel sensor and ABS(which is already there) to brake and reduce throttle(DBW) when wheel slippage is detected

06-26-2006, 01:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
aodmisery Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norcal Age: 27 Posts: 1,821 MEOW!! iTrader: 1 / 100%	i dont think its traction control its getting, but the new si's will be getting vsa which makes me mad cause us 06 owners dont get it. wonder if the price of the si will go up again and will our si's be worth less

06-26-2006, 01:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
khunthun Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Age: 21 Posts: 112 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Does the Si really need the traction control(TCS/VSA) since we already have a LSD?

06-26-2006, 01:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
CivicWithNav Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Woodstock MD Posts: 2,566 iTrader: 13 / 100%	TCS maybe not...but VSA(vehicle stability assist...honda's name for it) is crucial and woudl benefit on EVERY CAR out there. it has sensors out the wazoo to monitor your cars position, speed, wheel angle and what not and as soon as you begin to slide sideways it will immediately correct it.

06-26-2006, 02:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
khunthun Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Age: 21 Posts: 112 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hmmm...I guess VSA would benefit us. I have VSA in my TL, I only see it in action(blinking exclamation point) when the tires are slipping. I don't know about it assisting in other ways, but I wouldn't know.

06-26-2006, 02:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
larryd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,809 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I would think that VSA would be a bad thing for people who actually want to push the car to its limits and ofcourse those who use the Si to autox unless ofcourse you can turn it on/off when you want.

06-26-2006, 02:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
khunthun Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Age: 21 Posts: 112 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I am pretty sure the VSA could be turned off. VSA in my TL can be turned off but I think I read somewhere in the manual it will come back on after you pass a certain speed.

06-26-2006, 03:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gonzo BROCCOLI Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,697 NOTHING BUT BROCCOLI iTrader: 5 / 100%	Hopefully you will have the option of turning it off. Nice that they will add it.

06-26-2006, 09:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
2evolved Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Age: 24 Posts: 603 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Traction control? No thank... Had something called VDC on the G35 and it causing lots of problems controlling the car yourself. Sure traction control is great and could be life saving for the daily driver but for someone who wants to pull quick turns once in a while it could wreck your car thanks to the traction control. Also you couldn't burn out, chirp, or break anything loose with traction on. Even turning it off on the G35 it still had some type of traction control that you needed to do some hard wiring to get rid of.

06-26-2006, 01:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
*Jaranath* 8 arms and a beak Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 / 0%	If I'm reading the College Hills Honda article correctly, the Civic may not be getting VSA. The bit in question is this: "The completion is signaled by standard application of anti-lock brakes (ABS), driver and front passenger side airbags with front passenger position sensors, and side curtain airbags to virtually all Honda and Acura passenger vehicles- from the subcompact Fit to the Ridgeline pickup truck - as well as Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) and rollover sensors for the side curtain airbags on all light trucks." The boldface part (added by me) is what I question. This could be interpreted as meaning that only all light trucks are getting VSA, not all Honda models.

06-26-2006, 04:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
radiocontrolhead Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hollywood, ca Age: 21 Posts: 2,927 Danny iTrader: 0 / 0%	we need vsa because of that guy who rolled over their car! tightsi i think it was.

06-26-2006, 05:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
BLU BY U Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 7,601 iTrader: 2 / 100%	i've had 2 vehicles with traction control, always turned it off. The only reason they are putting it on is because the GTI has it, they must be throwing it in to slap them in the face. Personally i think its a waste of money if you actually know how to drive your vehicle.