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Old 05-06-2008, 04:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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is it bad to...

kick in the clutch as the gas is coming up? or do i have to be completely off the gas first?
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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explain what your talking about exactly bc as I read it, i would say you should've gotten an automatic
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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kick in the clutch as the gas is coming up? or do i have to be completely off the gas first?
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nothing wrong with disengaging the clutch with or without gas... but if you're quickly "kicking" it causing it to disengage then re-engage violently, you'll most definitely increase the wear of your clutch.
Even so, your clutch is a wear and tear item so it's not like you're car will blow up...
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^^what he said^^ once that engine starts and your car is rolling the clutch is gonna wear...it's gonna wear faster/slower based on driver habbits. So to answer your question no it's not bad...
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sorry, should have been more clear i guess... what i'm asking is if i have to wait until the gas is completely back up before pushing in the clutch to shift.... it feels smoother if i push it in as i'm letting off the gas as opposed to gas fully off, then clutch in. reason i ask though is because due to the rev hang, if i put the clutch in before completely off the gas the tach will actually jump up a little if you watch it
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You're a senior member with 946 posts and you seriously are asking this question? I'm boggled.
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sorry, should have been more clear i guess... what i'm asking is if i have to wait until the gas is completely back up before pushing in the clutch to shift.... it feels smoother if i push it in as i'm letting off the gas as opposed to gas fully off, then clutch in. reason i ask though is because due to the rev hang, if i put the clutch in before completely off the gas the tach will actually jump up a little if you watch it
"wait until the gas is completely back up" describes a technique called Rev-matching
Detailed here: rev matching@Everything2.com

When you have mastered rev-matching, then you can learn heel and toe downshifting
Detailed here:How To Heel-and-Toe Downshift
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sorry, should have been more clear i guess... what i'm asking is if i have to wait until the gas is completely back up before pushing in the clutch to shift.... it feels smoother if i push it in as i'm letting off the gas as opposed to gas fully off, then clutch in. reason i ask though is because due to the rev hang, if i put the clutch in before completely off the gas the tach will actually jump up a little if you watch it
The technique I use is to start pushing in the clutch and letting off the gas at the same time. That way when the clutch gets to the point of disengaging your foot is all the way back so you get a smooth disengagement. If you let off the gas too early ( before the clutch is at the engagement/disengagement point) the car will engine brake and sometimes lurch forward in 1st or 2nd gear. If you let off the gas too late ( when the clutch is already disengaged) like you do the the revs will climb as long as you have you foot on the gas. This can put unnecessary wear on the clutch and the rev jumps will make it sound like you don't know how to drive a manual. Be patient, it takes time to learn how to drive a manual correctly.
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You're a senior member with 946 posts and you seriously are asking this question? I'm boggled.
You could be a moderator with 100,000 posts and still not know how to drive stick. Online forum communities and driving are two separate things. This is the internets, not real life.
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You could be a moderator with 100,000 posts and still not know how to drive stick. Online forum communities and driving are two separate things. This is the internets, not real life.
Tru dat!!
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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dude your threads are priceless in terms of stupidity. you're always asking the most retarded shit. why not try driving your car so you have a comfortable ride and drive it at other times to squeeze the best performance out of it. simple as that. as long as your not riding the clutch, you're fine.
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dude your threads are priceless in terms of stupidity. you're always asking the most retarded shit. why not try driving your car so you have a comfortable ride and drive it at other times to squeeze the best performance out of it. simple as that. as long as your not riding the clutch, you're fine.
The original question of this thread can't be answered by just "going out and driving". That's what they're already doing. They're wondering if what they are doing is right or wrong.
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dude your threads are priceless in terms of stupidity. you're always asking the most retarded shit. why not try driving your car so you have a comfortable ride and drive it at other times to squeeze the best performance out of it. simple as that. as long as your not riding the clutch, you're fine.
Hey man, be nice, he might be new to driving a stick and he was just asking a question, he doesn't deserved to be treated like an idiot.
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The original question of this thread can't be answered by just "going out and driving". That's what they're already doing. They're wondering if what they are doing is right or wrong.
yes it can be determined by regular driving. as long as he's not riding the clutch, he's fine. and by riding the clutch i mean resting your foot on it or keeping it at the engagement point more than needed. needless to be said, if you're launching the car often, your clutch will wear out.

and this guy creates some of the silliest threads with no direction to them whatsoever. a bit of reading easily answers his questions. and then some of it is just practicality and common sense.
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hes saying that when hes accelerating, should he take his foot off the gas before or after he hits the clutch.. its better to let off the gas before, but you should naturally be driving fine.. i know somebody who told me when racing, he just holds the gas down the entire time and never lets off; i want to try this but it doesnt sound good, as as soon as you push the clutch in, the rpms are going to shoot up, but maybe thats good, since you want to keep your rpms as high as possible.. dunno, i havent tried anything crazy like that yet, but maybe its not crazy since alls your doing is, from what i have heard/read, putting stress on the throwout bearing (redline with the clutch in) and clutch wear

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hes saying that when hes accelerating, should he take his foot off the gas before or after he hits the clutch.. its better to let off the gas before, but you should naturally be driving fine.. i know somebody who told me when racing, he just holds the gas down the entire time and never lets off; i want to try this but it doesnt sound good, as as soon as you push the clutch in, the rpms are going to shoot up, but maybe thats good, since you want to keep your rpms as high as possible.. dunno, i havent tried anything crazy like that yet, but maybe its not crazy since alls your doing is, from what i have heard/read, putting stress on the throwout bearing (redline with the clutch in) and clutch wear
thats called powershifting buddy. that needs no explanation. its been debated to death on this board
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