3rd Gear Solution under way

[08CivicSi]

hope the god damn fix is in effect for the late 08 models to 09 si, so when i get mine i dont have to go through this shit

[Special Ringpop]

Originally Posted by _flipxcyd

So, should I just buy an 08 Civic LX or EX manual as opposed to the SI with the 3rd gear problems?

If you want my opinion, yes. If performance isn't THAT much of a big deal to you, and you're getting the Si for purely aesthetic reasons, get the EX and save your mind some anguish.

It eats me alive wondering whether the issues I've had with my transmission have heavily damaged my car.

Above that, providing a fix ever comes out, what fool is going to be ripping apart my relatively new 20,000 mile transmission and replacing intricate things. I've heard horror stories about this.

[User_name:]

***WEEKLY UPDATE*** Nothing wrong with my transmission.

[Ross]

At work... cant search through the whole thread.. just got my FA5 last week. What exactly is the 3rd gear problem? Is it popping out of gear on a quick shift? I have noticed this in my 08

[-j-]

Originally Posted by Ross

At work... cant search through the whole thread.. just got my FA5 last week. What exactly is the 3rd gear problem? Is it popping out of gear on a quick shift? I have noticed this in my 08

Several issues really.

Some grind.
Some grind and reject
Some grind, reject and snag.

[blacksi2007]

this tread should be closed until someone has a difinitive answer

[Ross]

Originally Posted by -j-

Several issues really.

Some grind.
Some grind and reject
Some grind, reject and snag.

I've noticed these... and there is supposedly a re-flash to fix this? Sorry for not having time to go through the thread thoroughly while at work...

[-j-]

I don't believe a reflash would help on these. It's more of a mechanical issue internally. Definitely take time to go through this thread. It will explain a bit more.

[Xenin]

Originally Posted by Ross

I've noticed these... and there is supposedly a re-flash to fix this? Sorry for not having time to go through the thread thoroughly while at work...

the reflash is for throttle lag.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by -j-

I don't believe a reflash would help on these. It's more of a mechanical issue internally. Definitely take time to go through this thread. It will explain a bit more.

Looks like I have some homework

[08CivicSi]

Originally Posted by blacksi2007

this tread should be closed until someone has a difinitive answer

agreed

[BlackOut070]

I've discovered that my 3rd gear grind has been disappearing ever since I hit 9k.

[John DiFool]

Originally Posted by Vinc84

Furthermore, it is also critical to know that the MTF in our transmissions should now be Amsoil Syncromesh or equal (your Honda may offer their own new MTF which is basically the same thing). Honda recognizes that the original MFT was not effective enough and so that probably contributed to transmission faultiness INCLUDING the 3rd gear issue. So make sure you get that done as well if you have not already done so.

My dealership told me when I gave them the Amsoil to put in that [quote] "This transmission fluid is not recommended." They have a state of the art showroom and computer system, and always treat me politely, but they are either a bunch of ignorant bozos who don't bother to keep up on their bulletins or are being deliberately disingenious. I'd like an official link to a Honda-sponsored/affiliated site which states unequivocally that Amsoil is most certainly recommended.

Oh and BTW it's been 6 weeks since I put the Amsoil in and not one single grind or pop-out, and this during some pretty nasty cold spells (Florida). It still does feel a bit notchy sometimes but I wonder if that is because my "aim" as I move the lever into the 3rd slot isn't always perfect. 3rd has always been smooth as butter on a downshift (heel and toeing/rev matching helps).

[-j-]

[quote=John DiFool;2189354]My dealership told me when I gave them the Amsoil to put in that

"This transmission fluid is not recommended." They have a state of the art showroom and computer system, and always treat me politely, but they are either a bunch of ignorant bozos who don't bother to keep up on their bulletins or are being deliberately disingenious. I'd like an official link to a Honda-sponsored/affiliated site which states unequivocally that Amsoil is most certainly recommended.

Oh and BTW it's been 6 weeks since I put the Amsoil in and not one single grind or pop-out, and this during some pretty nasty cold spells (Florida). It still does feel a bit notchy sometimes but I wonder if that is because my "aim" as I move the lever into the 3rd slot isn't always perfect. 3rd has always been smooth as butter on a downshift (heel and toeing/rev matching helps).

A service adviser also stated to me that Amsoil may cause a warranty issue if it is used. I am not sure about that information as well. I want some clarification too.

[racerx78]

Originally Posted by BlackOut070

I've discovered that my 3rd gear grind has been disappearing ever since I hit 9k.

I'm at 19K and it still studders but its faint enough that i can catch it before it pops out. Its more of an annoyance, than anything else. I'm also only running the newer Honda MTF. I'm swtiching to Amsoil this spring.

[skywalker81582]

does anyone know if honda will give me problems if i have the short shifter adapter on my car when i bring it in for my third gear issues

[Special Ringpop]

Originally Posted by skywalker81582

does anyone know if honda will give me problems if i have the short shifter adapter on my car when i bring it in for my third gear issues

Given the difficulty so many of us have had trying to get them to even ACKNOWLEDGE our third gear issues with stock equipment, the SS seems like one way they'd skirt responsibility.

[MaXaZoR]

My car is going in this weekend for yet another complaint about this problem. - I don't again anything will come of it, but I figure the more they are aware of the problem maybe they will realize this needs to be addressed. Everyday on my morning commute my car fails to shift 2-3 times, it almost 2nd nature to me now, but I'm REALLY getting annoyed with it.

[Qshooter151]

The part number of the original defective tranny is PNN4-1013621. The new tranny installed is PNN4-1015503

Originally Posted by Yodums

Did anyone skip over this post? It just seems everyone went right by this ... any one that works at Honda that can look up that part number and give us the details?

on the phone with my brother right now, who works at Honda. he can't find these #'s quoted above.

the tranny part # for the 06 Civic Si is- 20011-RPN-305

[BlairSpeed]

Here in San Diego on then news last night they talked about the Si and its 3rd gear problem ON THE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They talked with a Honda rep who said they are still working on diagnosing the problem and they interviewed and SI owner and they showed how his 3rd gear would just pop out of gear....

I just cant believe it MADE THE NEWS! Honda HAS to do something now....