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Old 12-05-2007, 06:44 PM   #161 (permalink)
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100.Jakesi07 07 si coupe 2nd gear grind and 3rd gear pops out[/quote]
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100.Jakesi07 07 si coupe 2nd gear grind and 3rd gear pops out[/quote]
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:45 PM   #163 (permalink)
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its gettin' bigger!!!


CHOOO CHOOO!!! ALL ABORD!
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:19 AM   #164 (permalink)
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its gettin' bigger!!!


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I think its great that we have started a list here on 8th, but I do think its just a start., and I do think there are most likely a lot more people that have problems on 8thcivic and could put themselves on this list.

Its gonna have to be more formal to actually mean something to Honda or other news stations or people we want to hear our story. For example, names, VIN numbers, Model year, 2dr or 4dr, etc.

But now that we have a list, we can always go back and get this kind of info from the people on the list which is great.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:41 AM   #165 (permalink)
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http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mecha...-petition.html

we've got multiple threads going, along with another thread and a petition.

Let me talk with the other staff members to see what we can do
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:22 AM   #166 (permalink)
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we've got multiple threads going, along with another thread and a petition.

Let me talk with the other staff members to see what we can do
Sounds good man!

I sent a PM to Gonzo about my ideas, and have posted a majority of them in the threads going around here on 8th.

I just think first and for most we need to try and get a majority of people on the same page and come with a plan of attack and implement it.

If were gonna try and start a more formal petition, than let's do it. If we want to write a more persuasive well written statement to send to Honda and others, lets compile our thoughts and facts and lets do it.

I know all of this isn't gonna happen overnight, and if done well will take some time. I'm just saying lets come up with a plan first and then execute it.
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:58 AM   #167 (permalink)
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I haven't had any problems yet but when I push it into third gear it doesn't feel smooth. Kinda scratchy. No audible noise or anything. It just feels a little rough. I don't know how to describe it. Anyone have any idea what I'm talking about? I hope it's not a sign of things to come.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:34 PM   #169 (permalink)
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It's hardly off topic. Third gear grind problems and third gear grind problem threads are off topic?!
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I haven't had any problems yet but when I push it into third gear it doesn't feel smooth. Kinda scratchy. No audible noise or anything. It just feels a little rough. I don't know how to describe it. Anyone have any idea what I'm talking about? I hope it's not a sign of things to come.
I know what you are talking about. It's like something is getting in it's way. It's annoying and if you are not ready, it will catch you off guard and pop you out of gear and/or grind it plus overrev. Scared enough?
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85,2007si sedan-3rd gear is hard to shift into(have to really push it sometimes)
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3rd gear grinds and pops out. bitch ass third gear
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79. BlackOut070 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 5th
80. dt07si (3rd gear wall/ grind)
81. Gone (2nd & 3rd gear wall/3rd gear grind)
82. Green-Jimmy ( 3rd gear wall / grind )
83. SiGuY9685- 2nd and 3rd (2nd when in high RPM's and 3rd when in mid-high RPM's)
84. trystar - 2nd gear grind when shifting fast from 1st-to 2nd, 3rd gear wall/grind
85,2007si sedan-3rd gear is hard to shift into(have to really push it sometimes)
86. 06rdsi
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88. HondaFamilyMan
89. furryferret7888- 06 si 3rd gear is impossible
90. Taff7Si ("wall" when cold)[/quote]
91. ff_29 (3rd grind - 07 si)
92. Orbit1
93. audibleforce
94. geezer07
95.jokka ( it feels very rough compared to my other gears.)..pops out occasionally.
96.Skiracing108 (had to pay 900 out of pocket because second gear got ground down)
97. MattyJay88
98. tk0_si - 06 si 3rd gear
99. Portabuddy, 06si. 3rd replaced(rebuilt), now 4th pop's out and 5th is stiff and all gears are notchy
100.Jakesi07 07 si coupe 2nd gear grind and 3rd gear pops out[/quote]
101. monto
102. sirbelch
103. tac 1 (3rd gear pops and grinds on 2nd)
104. Dwn4nythng
105. -j-
106. kingcuongo
107. ssoh87
108. citizh (notchy and sometimes pops out, 3rd gear)
109. millatime
110. silver h22(still happens and i had new mtf and new synchros...doesnt pop out anymore but still grinds)
111. ChadwickSoKrazy. 3rd gear grinds and pops out. bitch ass third gear
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79. BlackOut070 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 5th
80. dt07si (3rd gear wall/ grind)
81. Gone (2nd & 3rd gear wall/3rd gear grind)
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83. SiGuY9685- 2nd and 3rd (2nd when in high RPM's and 3rd when in mid-high RPM's)
84. trystar - 2nd gear grind when shifting fast from 1st-to 2nd, 3rd gear wall/grind
85,2007si sedan-3rd gear is hard to shift into(have to really push it sometimes)
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89. furryferret7888- 06 si 3rd gear is impossible
90. Taff7Si ("wall" when cold)[/quote]
91. ff_29 (3rd grind - 07 si)
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95.jokka ( it feels very rough compared to my other gears.)..pops out occasionally.
96.Skiracing108 (had to pay 900 out of pocket because second gear got ground down)
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98. tk0_si - 06 si 3rd gear
99. Portabuddy, 06si. 3rd replaced(rebuilt), now 4th pop's out and 5th is stiff and all gears are notchy
100.Jakesi07 07 si coupe 2nd gear grind and 3rd gear pops out[/quote]
101. monto
102. sirbelch
103. tac 1 (3rd gear pops and grinds on 2nd)
104. Dwn4nythng
105. -j-
106. kingcuongo
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108. citizh (notchy and sometimes pops out, 3rd gear)
109. millatime
110. silver h22(still happens and i had new mtf and new synchros...doesnt pop out anymore but still grinds)
111. ChadwickSoKrazy. 3rd gear grinds and pops out. bitch ass third gear
112. ACExWASxHERE
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71. CUPRA's GG Si
72. CUPRA's wifes NHBP Si
73. Nikeman
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75. Polski Jdmski
76. I Vtec, do you? (started recently @ 8k-ish miles)
77. dlux200sx
78. yourwhiteshadow (in the cold 2-3, sometimes 1-2 is a hard shift especially in upper RPMs. really annoying)
79. BlackOut070 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 5th
80. dt07si (3rd gear wall/ grind)
81. Gone (2nd & 3rd gear wall/3rd gear grind)
82. Green-Jimmy ( 3rd gear wall / grind )
83. SiGuY9685- 2nd and 3rd (2nd when in high RPM's and 3rd when in mid-high RPM's)
84. trystar - 2nd gear grind when shifting fast from 1st-to 2nd, 3rd gear wall/grind
85,2007si sedan-3rd gear is hard to shift into(have to really push it sometimes)
86. 06rdsi
87.JZILLA - 3rd gear - 06 si
88. HondaFamilyMan
89. furryferret7888- 06 si 3rd gear is impossible
90. Taff7Si ("wall" when cold)[/quote]
91. ff_29 (3rd grind - 07 si)
92. Orbit1
93. audibleforce
94. geezer07
95.jokka ( it feels very rough compared to my other gears.)..pops out occasionally.
96.Skiracing108 (had to pay 900 out of pocket because second gear got ground down)
97. MattyJay88
98. tk0_si - 06 si 3rd gear
99. Portabuddy, 06si. 3rd replaced(rebuilt), now 4th pop's out and 5th is stiff and all gears are notchy
100.Jakesi07 07 si coupe 2nd gear grind and 3rd gear pops out[/quote]
101. monto
102. sirbelch
103. tac 1 (3rd gear pops and grinds on 2nd)
104. Dwn4nythng
105. -j-
106. kingcuongo
107. ssoh87
108. citizh (notchy and sometimes pops out, 3rd gear)
109. millatime
110. silver h22(still happens and i had new mtf and new synchros...doesnt pop out anymore but still grinds)
111. ChadwickSoKrazy. 3rd gear grinds and pops out. bitch ass third gear
112. ACExWASxHERE
113. Ambilobe. 3rd gear is notchy grinds sometimes
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