summer tires don't chirp in the cold?

dnbsi · 10-15-2007, 07:18 PM

seems like ever since it got colder out my summer tires don't chirp when i shift fast in vtec? they lose traction real quick and the vsa kicks on but i don't hear a chirp like i used to, it just vibrates a little. is this normal for summer tires as it gets colder out?

i was never intentionally chirping though, i was just shifting the way i knew how. maybe my shifting has gotten better? how do you intentionally make them chirp?

galaxygrey13 · 10-15-2007, 07:33 PM

you step on the gas before you completely let go of the clutch

dnbsi · 10-15-2007, 07:35 PM

yeah thats pretty much what i was doing. is this wrong or right to do when driving hard into vtec?

anyone with the summer tires have any input?

Jardiniboy · 10-15-2007, 08:01 PM

Powershift. It's not that hard. Don't take your foot off the gas when you shift.

Sevy316 · 10-15-2007, 08:25 PM

it might be spinning a lil more due to the cold so u dont get the chirp cuz its not gripping as usual. Ive done silent quick burnouts b4 in my GTO

***GeezerSi*** · 10-15-2007, 08:32 PM

I dump and punch. After I shift up from 1st to 2nd at at least 6 Krpm, I dump the clutch out while punching the gas pedal back down. This always gives me a chirp.

ryker · 10-16-2007, 08:08 AM

When the tires are cold the rubber compound is Hard. Let them warm up then they'll chirp becuase the rubber is now soft and sticky.

Which is why they are "summer" tires.

GlxyGry06Si · 10-16-2007, 08:23 AM

^^^yeah that

galaxygrey13 · 10-16-2007, 10:12 AM

I couldnt beleive it last time but i chirped 4th. i was amazed at my car so i kissed the steering wheel lol

dnbsi · 10-16-2007, 04:14 PM

how long do they take to heat up? cause i was driving for a little while (obviously, so the car would be warmed up before i vtec'd) and we're not talking super cold either, like 40's 50's

ryker · 10-16-2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnbsi

how long do they take to heat up? cause i was driving for a little while (obviously, so the car would be warmed up before i vtec'd) and we're not talking super cold either, like 40's 50's

Summer is 80-100 degrees

Thats a 40-60 degree's difference. aka summer tires

100% summer traction will not be achieved in the cooler temps untill _____ miles? If 100% is even achievable. I know that my old SuperCharged Camaro with summer tires took about 10 miles before I felt safe to attempt a sharp curve or give it thottle. But that was just a wee be more power than a 4banger.

I used to run Goodyear f1dsd3's on my old Golf and they took about 5 miles to warm up and not feel like driving on plastic. And about another 10 mile before I felt safe with them. Never really used full power or power shifts to test traction.

Tire pressure greatly effects warm up rate.

dnbsi · 10-16-2007, 06:27 PM

it was about 70+ today and i got a nice little chirp on the way home :) must have a lot to do with ground temp. too

10-15-2007, 07:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
dnbsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 956 iTrader: 0 / 0%	summer tires don't chirp in the cold? seems like ever since it got colder out my summer tires don't chirp when i shift fast in vtec? they lose traction real quick and the vsa kicks on but i don't hear a chirp like i used to, it just vibrates a little. is this normal for summer tires as it gets colder out? i was never intentionally chirping though, i was just shifting the way i knew how. maybe my shifting has gotten better? how do you intentionally make them chirp?

10-15-2007, 08:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
*GeezerSi* Hidy ho neighbor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Palm, PA Posts: 12,883 -> Ken iTrader: 5 / 100%	I dump and punch. After I shift up from 1st to 2nd at at least 6 Krpm, I dump the clutch out while punching the gas pedal back down. This always gives me a chirp. __________________

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galaxygrey13 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,417 Ignacio iTrader: 1 / 100%	you step on the gas before you completely let go of the clutch

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dnbsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 956 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yeah thats pretty much what i was doing. is this wrong or right to do when driving hard into vtec? anyone with the summer tires have any input?

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Jardiniboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 3,789 Jasten iTrader: 2 / 100%	Powershift. It's not that hard. Don't take your foot off the gas when you shift.

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Sevy316 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cleveland Age: 23 Posts: 231 iTrader: 0 / 0%	it might be spinning a lil more due to the cold so u dont get the chirp cuz its not gripping as usual. Ive done silent quick burnouts b4 in my GTO

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ryker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,182 iTrader: 1 / 100%	When the tires are cold the rubber compound is Hard. Let them warm up then they'll chirp becuase the rubber is now soft and sticky. Which is why they are "summer" tires.

10-16-2007, 08:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
GlxyGry06Si Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jacksonville, AR Age: 23 Posts: 6,502 iTrader: 3 / 100%	^^^yeah that

10-16-2007, 10:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
galaxygrey13 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,417 Ignacio iTrader: 1 / 100%	I couldnt beleive it last time but i chirped 4th. i was amazed at my car so i kissed the steering wheel lol

10-16-2007, 04:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
dnbsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 956 iTrader: 0 / 0%	how long do they take to heat up? cause i was driving for a little while (obviously, so the car would be warmed up before i vtec'd) and we're not talking super cold either, like 40's 50's

10-16-2007, 06:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
dnbsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 956 iTrader: 0 / 0%	it was about 70+ today and i got a nice little chirp on the way home :) must have a lot to do with ground temp. too